Found Deceased IN - Abigail (Abby) Williams, 13, & Liberty (Libby) German, 14, The Delphi Murders 13 Feb 2017 #109

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  • #501
I've been a member here for 6 years. Plus, I have no idea what you are referencing. I've not seen a video, nor have I commented on a post that referenced one. I also have not quoted you nor replied to any of your posts. In fact, I was aggreeing with you in the post you quoted and trying to show my support to you so now I am confused...
I think perhaps he quoted the wrong person...MOO
 
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IMO, mtnlites was not disparaging you at all, but rather deferring to your expertise and experience which add value to our sleuthing . MOO
 
  • #505
Thank you for posting this.
I see sandy red hair swept to one side; longish bangs hanging down.
What is that yellow-green object under his nose? It almost looks like a dive regulator in his mouth. What is that?!
I’m wondering if he did have something weird under his nose or in his mouth, and that’s why Libby filmed him.
 
  • #506
I've been a member here for 6 years. Plus, I have no idea what you are referencing. I've not seen a video, nor have I commented on a post that referenced one. I also have not quoted you nor replied to any of your posts. In fact, I was aggreeing with you in the post you quoted and trying to show my support to you so now I am confused...

I think s/he accidentally quoted you when it was the person preceding that was meant for the reply.
 
  • #507
Congrats and thanks. Alexis McAdams has done excellent reporting on this case, imo. She's the one who described how the phone was held. I also noticed the probability of the killer being local was brought up at this early point.
Thank you!

I agree. Alexis has done a great job!

There is a vast difference between those who report facts vs those who sensationalize things. You can tell the difference in the tone of voice they use...and whether or not they have done their fact-checking vs trying to be the first to 'jump on a story'.

JMO
 
  • #508
Sorry.....grab a drink....this is a long post!

There is a piece of information that I knew I remembered reading and hearing about very early on in the case that I have been searching for for ages and I finally found it!:)

I was honestly beginning to think I had dreamed it, because it seems like the article I remember reading can no longer be found with the direct quote from Carter. The 2nd link below with the article portion has been posted many times, but again, not as I remember reading it originally.

Once again, digging up some 'old news' is making me hopeful that this monster will be caught.

In this Fox 59 clip, Alexis McAdams talks about hearing from Carter about, 'A key piece of evidence at the crime scene that was linked to the killer'.

This is the newsclip.


These are some of the things I have pondered about them finding:

A weapon, a receipt, his clothing, a disguise if he wore one, keys, a lighter...I could be here all night! :eek:

Here is the article. It is missing the direct quote from Carter, but I have bolded some of the references to evidence.

FBI putting together profile of suspect accused of killing Delphi teens

It is snipped to comply with 10% rule.

"All that information provides police with clues as to what kind of things they should be looking for as they serve search warrants. That, paired with evidence found at the crime scene, could help solve the puzzle.

Indiana State Police superintendent Doug Carter says they have several pieces and parts but they are looking for the one piece of evidence that will crack the case.

“I know that we have the human element we have a very solid science element,” he said. "

I sincerely believe that LE is getting closer to making an arrest every day.

I will never lose hope for Abby and Libby that the last face I believe they saw will one day be plastered with the headline, 'ARRESTED! and that they will get their day of justice.

JMO
This really is a great find, @bradfordsleuth! Coming later to the case, I was not aware of this video clip. How reassuring to know that there is a "key" piece of evidence that is linked to the killer. Just before you posted, @rosesfromangels mentioned in her post "seeing" red hair & bangs on BG. Libby, having taken a class in forensics may have had the notion to grab something of evidentiary value off his person, his red hair maybe?? BG was so well covered, but perhaps she managed to get to his hair. It would be great if a few of those came out by the root :)

Additionally, it supports the video I posted a day or so ago, that seemed to indicate there were those in the investigation, such as Tobe Leazenby that felt there was a good possibility the killer was a local. And, the reporter also mentions that the FBI were putting together a profile of the killer at that time. I can't help but feel that that is when the investigation derailed and why DC spoke about being "on to something early on" during an interview post PC.

Let's continue to hope they are on the right track now and that this evidence "linked to the killer" will put this monster where he belongs! JMO

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  • #509
Sorry.....grab a drink....this is a long post!

There is a piece of information that I knew I remembered reading and hearing about very early on in the case that I have been searching for for ages and I finally found it!:)

I was honestly beginning to think I had dreamed it, because it seems like the article I remember reading can no longer be found with the direct quote from Carter. The 2nd link below with the article portion has been posted many times, but again, not as I remember reading it originally.

Once again, digging up some 'old news' is making me hopeful that this monster will be caught.

In this Fox 59 clip, Alexis McAdams talks about hearing from Carter about, 'A key piece of evidence at the crime scene that was linked to the killer'.

This is the newsclip.


These are some of the things I have pondered about them finding:

A weapon, a receipt, his clothing, a disguise if he wore one, keys, a lighter...I could be here all night! :eek:

Here is the article. It is missing the direct quote from Carter, but I have bolded some of the references to evidence.

FBI putting together profile of suspect accused of killing Delphi teens

It is snipped to comply with 10% rule.

"All that information provides police with clues as to what kind of things they should be looking for as they serve search warrants. That, paired with evidence found at the crime scene, could help solve the puzzle.

Indiana State Police superintendent Doug Carter says they have several pieces and parts but they are looking for the one piece of evidence that will crack the case.

“I know that we have the human element we have a very solid science element,” he said. "

I sincerely believe that LE is getting closer to making an arrest every day.

I will never lose hope for Abby and Libby that the last face I believe they saw will one day be plastered with the headline, 'ARRESTED! and that they will get their day of justice.

JMO
Wow! That crime scene tape blocks off a MUCH larger area than I was envisioning the crime happening in.
 
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Pacifier candy? Would be significant if the plastic handle was found at the crime scene.

Or perhaps he's nuzzling the baby goat....

JMHO YMMV
Well....I'm pretty weirded out right now! I've looked at the photos a million times but never saw that odd green thing that appears to be in his mouth! What came to mind right away was an animal or bird call. (I'm definitely NOT a hunter, so excuse me if this is stupid!!). So I was looking them up online, and yes, some are green in color. Some also have a cord type thing that is attached-I guess to wear around your neck-could the be what the white thing is?? I would love some replies!!!
 
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I am not necessarily buying that there is anything in his mouth. But, let's say there is. Could it be some sort of game call?
lol-I was just posting the same thing!!
 
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I am not necessarily buying that there is anything in his mouth. But, let's say there is. Could it be some sort of game call?

Well....I'm pretty weirded out right now! I've looked at the photos a million times but never saw that odd green thing that appears to be in his mouth! What came to mind right away was an animal or bird call. (I'm definitely NOT a hunter, so excuse me if this is stupid!!). So I was looking them up online, and yes, some are green in color. Some also have a cord type thing that is attached-I guess to wear around your neck-could the be what the white thing is?? I would love some replies!!!

At first, I thought Nahhh, and then I thought about something. What if there was another person waiting below the bridge? Could BG have used a game call to alert an accomplice to get ready, it's going according to plan? Is that why Libby started recording. We've speculated that he did something that made them uneasy.

Maybe I'm just tired and losing my mind :)
 
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What is a “game call?”
 
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I am not necessarily buying that there is anything in his mouth. But, let's say there is. Could it be some sort of game call?

This is the first time I'm noticing that greenish hue below his mouth. It could very well be a bird call gadget.

Well....I'm pretty weirded out right now! I've looked at the photos a million times but never saw that odd green thing that appears to be in his mouth! What came to mind right away was an animal or bird call. (I'm definitely NOT a hunter, so excuse me if this is stupid!!). So I was looking them up online, and yes, some are green in color. Some also have a cord type thing that is attached-I guess to wear around your neck-could the be what the white thing is?? I would love some replies!!!
You both seem to be on the same wavelength. You know what they say about great minds?:)

I have been madly googling pictures to see what they look like!

JMO
 
  • #517
This is the first time I'm noticing that greenish hue below his mouth. It could very well be a bird call gadget.


You both seem to be on the same wavelength. You know what they say about great minds?:)

I have been madly googling pictures to see what they look like!

JMO
Also-I know I personally would think it was pretty creepy that some adult would be walking across a bridge and blowing on some kind of call!
 
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A device hunters use to attract wildlife. All different kinds depending on what you're hunting.
I really do think that’s what it is
 
  • #520
I'm not sold that the green thing is even there. Or green. I have seen this image altered every way from Sunday and this is the first time I have seen it. Unless LE releases a new, updated, still shot and the green thing is on it then I am going to go with 30/70 that it was manipulated by the user/real. LE, and WS, have asked people not to manipulate the image but it still happens.
 
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