Found Deceased IN - Abigail (Abby) Williams, 13, & Liberty (Libby) German, 14, The Delphi Murders 13 Feb 2017 #128

[MistyWaters]

Left pic looks younger.
Right pic looks older.

Left pic looks like hair.
Right pic looks like hat.

I tend to think he's younger, mid 20's to 30. I think he's athletic. I think he's wearing a wig, or hat. Maybe both. I'm not sure about the hat. IF the second sketch is anywhere close to accurate, then he almost HAS to have some covering over his head. I see no curls.

In any event, I would say, if he was a family member of mine, or someone I knew, I think I'd be able to tell it was him in these photos.

MOO

I think he’s recognizable to those who know him too. However the problem is nothing about the man in the photo stands out as very unique or distinct. There’s likely dozens if not 100s of men in the Delphi area who could pass for a match even if he’s not disguised in any way. As nobody will ever be successfully convicted solely on visual similarities to a grainy photo, LE requires evidence to link any one suspect directly to committing the murders. These are the sort of things is I think are hampering the investigation -
- if there was not a full and complete DNA profile found on the bodies directly pointing toward the killer.
- the suspect exhibited no suspicious actions or behaviours, no other incriminating evidence.
- it can’t be proven the suspect was present at the crime scene when the murders occurred.

LE has been silent for many months. Whether that means sudden progress or the investigation is stalled we don’t know. Getting a few tips everyday isn’t necessarily a sign the case isn’t cold, it depends on the quality of the tips.

April, 2020
“Mistakes may have been made early on in the rush to get a resolution to this,” Leazenby said. “It could be that just the right question was not asked or a nerve was not touched by a question to help us figure out who did this.”
Lots of tips, no arrest in 2017 double homicide | Carroll County Comet

 

[news buff]

I dont think she knows anything about it.. i think she was asked by paul holes or others.. I would also say that to get to the delphi part you have to pay money....
I consider this to be very ethically questionable .. the same as turning true crime into entertainment for money

She is quoted saying she partnered with CrimeDoor. Can I post a twitter quote here?

 

[margarita25]

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I just noticed something, April 11, 2017:

I said “hiding in plain sight”

 

[Deleted member 102539]

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I just noticed something, April 11, 2017:

I said “hiding in plain sight”

Please, retrospectively claim a Like from me, even if I don't think, he had to change his name in case Abby/Libby.

 

[sandy_80]

She is quoted saying she partnered with CrimeDoor. Can I post a twitter quote here?

does that make it ethical u think ..unless the money goes into the case .. i dont think so

 

[news buff]

does that make it ethical u think ..unless the money goes into the case .. i dont think so

No, it does not seem ethical to me.

 

[StarryStarryNight]

Left pic looks younger.
Right pic looks older.

Left pic looks like hair.
Right pic looks like hat.

I tend to think he's younger, mid 20's to 30. I think he's athletic. I think he's wearing a wig, or hat. Maybe both. I'm not sure about the hat. IF the second sketch is anywhere close to accurate, then he almost HAS to have some covering over his head. I see no curls.

In any event, I would say, if he was a family member of mine, or someone I knew, I think I'd be able to tell it was him in these photos.

MOO

Someone, a few months after the April 2019 press conference, posted pictures from the short video frame by frame. I also watched the video stopping it every half second or so(basically trying to watch it frame by frame). It is amazing how BG’s appearance changes from frame to frame. He does appear older and dumpier at times and at others he looks pretty trim and much younger.
I can’t seem to post the frame shot I kept. It says the file is too big. If I figure out how to remedy that, I’ll post it.

 

[FrostedGlass]

I remember when someone placed a cutout of the light BG into a photo of Abby on the bridge. That sure changed my perception of him. He could have been one of her school mates and not the old guy. If not for the clothing, I would have sworn it was 2 different men.

It would be interesting to see how much you can age a young person by just adjusting the light and shadows falling on him.

 

[asyousay]

This is such a frustrating case and makes me so angry. On paper so many clues and the police certainly have a lot more to go on than a lot of other crimes committed and yet they have gotten nowhere. The family must be so frustrated that their children in the greatest of danger had the foresight to get him on video and record him and yet here we are years later with no progress.

 

[LRDenton]

This is such a frustrating case and makes me so angry. On paper so many clues and the police certainly have a lot more to go on than a lot of other crimes committed and yet they have gotten nowhere. The family must be so frustrated that their children in the greatest of danger had the foresight to get him on video and record him and yet here we are years later with no progress.

We can't say with certainty that they've gotten nowhere, or have made no progress as we wouldn't know until an arrest is made. Silence from the task force can be either a good sign or a bad sign. Have faith, I have a 'feeling' someone has sent in the correct tip.

 

[somequestions]

We can't say with certainty that they've gotten nowhere, or have made no progress as we wouldn't know until an arrest is made. Silence from the task force can be either a good sign or a bad sign. Have faith, I have a 'feeling' someone has sent in the correct tip.

If someone ever does send in the correct tip, I would be shocked if it was because of either of those two sketches put out by LE, especially the second one which looks like a young person in their 20's. In my opinion, the only way this person is going to get identified is if someone sees Liberty German's phone video and recognizes the man on the bridge.

 

[asyousay]

We can't say with certainty that they've gotten nowhere, or have made no progress as we wouldn't know until an arrest is made. Silence from the task force can be either a good sign or a bad sign. Have faith, I have a 'feeling' someone has sent in the correct tip.

Of course you are entitled to your opinion but I don’t think they have any clue who did this. I hope to be proven wrong as I want justice for these young girls. I can’t believe we are coming up to the 4 year mark now either.

 

[sandy_80]

Barbara MacDonald...the producer of DTH podcast announced on twitter that LE wont be holding a press conference this year.. but there will be a case special from the podcast
..........
are we surprised ? no

 

[chaz]

If I want to know if there is any news, I check Kelsi's twitter:
https://mobile.twitter.com/libertyg_sister

 

[MistyWaters]

If I want to know if there is any news, I check Kelsi's twitter:
https://mobile.twitter.com/libertyg_sister

Or Carroll County Sheriff’s Office facebook page.

Carroll County Sheriff's Office Indiana

 

[Sillybilly]

Basic Websleuths folks .. no social media rumors ! Sometimes they're right, most times they're wrong.

If members want to talk about it in private messaging, that's one thing, but please don't bring rumors to WS.

Thanks.

 

[MichelleBlue]

It is very ethically questionable. Totally agree. Hideous.

So the creepy virtual reality crime scene app thing has a Facebook ad that just showed up on my timeline. Guess who was the focus of the ad? Yep, Abby and Libby. Sorry, just seems like exploitation. IMO.

Edited - took out app name

 

[sandy_80]

So the creepy virtual reality crime scene app thing has a Facebook ad that just showed up on my timeline. Guess who was the focus of the ad? Yep, Abby and Libby. Sorry, just seems like exploitation. IMO.

Edited - took out app name

this is starting to give me jonbenet/madeleine mccann vibes and I dont like it..I am also starting to question the motives of some characters like holes

 

[news buff]

She is quoted saying she partnered with CrimeDoor. Can I post a twitter quote here?

Guess it is okay since others are promoting KG's twitter on this page for news updates. KG certainly would have the inside story.

Kelsi German

@libertyg_sister
· Jan 15
Hey guys! As you know I’ve spent the last 4 years of my life dedicated to finding justice for #AbbyandLibby and I am not stopping until we have answers. That's why I partnered with @crimedoor, so we can reach even more of the world and identify the monster responsible.

 

[asyousay]

So the creepy virtual reality crime scene app thing has a Facebook ad that just showed up on my timeline. Guess who was the focus of the ad? Yep, Abby and Libby. Sorry, just seems like exploitation. IMO.

Edited - took out app name

If it gives the case more exposure then that can only be a good thing. The family want answers and who can blame them at this junction for trying something different to try and help the case. It must be incredibly frustrating for everybody involved that they still don’t have answers.

MOO