Found Deceased IN - Abigail (Abby) Williams, 13, & Liberty (Libby) German, 14, The Delphi Murders 13 Feb 2017 #135

[taylorss]

If anyone has information connecting JBC to Delphi they should be talking to LE, not the media. What if the killer isn’t him? Meanwhile these talkers convince the general public including potential tipsters he’s the guilty one because they can pretty much say whatever they want to in terms of “he said”. Then this case goes forever unsolved.

Not people who have info LE would want, just people who knew or interacted with the guy and hate him or even just want attention etc. I’m not saying “should” I’m saying “do” .... normally anyway

 

[minazoe]

Its funny you mention Richard Ramirez..you know he was a tweaker and was homeless on and off, camping out in a grave yard...the whole time he was running around murdering and raping people in their homes, he was simultaneously kidnapping and raping children.

its interesting to me that someone homeless can be a serial killer..

homelessness I think adds a certain invisibility...as transients are hard to pin down.

mOO

 

[minazoe]

with out a good DNA profile ...the best hope they have is a confession...they will have to convince him he is caught and they know everything.

I also think it's suspect that he literally disappeared from fb at the time of the murders.

on the 13th.

mOO

 

[MsBetsy]

I’m very much agreed.

The part of your post I bolded above:

I always believed this, which is why my hopes were raised with Chadwell’s arrest for abducting the 9 year old girl.

With so many famous criminals of the past— Ted Bundy, David Berkowitz, Gary Ridgway, Randy Kraft— after years of killing undetected, they were finally flushed out into the public eye when they messed up during a crime and were caught.

Yes, sooner or later they all seem to make a mistake. Israel Keyes left a trail of evidence behind when he murdered his last victim because he was careless and acted on impulse.

I just hope it doesn't take another brutal murder for LE to finally make an arrest. If Chadwell is ruled out, the killer is probably feeling pretty satisfied and confident right now.

 

[MsBetsy]

It’s possible that the reason LE has not given KG encouraging information about the JBC investigation has more to do with them and less to do with JBC. In other words, LE may be 95% sure JBC is the Delphi killer, but they can’t put him in Delphi or at the trails on Feb 13 2017.

Or if they can confirm he was elsewhere on that day they would have to rule him out. His employer and co-workers might be able to verify he was at work. Didn't he have a steady job in 2017?

 

[minazoe]

you know they feel invincible...they think everyone else is stupid..Israel Keyes was playing loose..playing it like a movie..sewing the girls eyes open..taking her picture ..
pulling some sick games...he was full of himself and thought he was Hannibel Lector..

he thought he would live to laugh about it later..

it took me several years to read about IK...I just have a few killers that really undo me..and I just cant handle it. I did eventually dig deep into him.

it's a tragedy he killed himself..we won't ever know the extent of what he did. I hope this doesn't happen with JBC because to me he walks like a duck.

mOO

 

[MistyWaters]

Not people who have info LE would want, just people who knew or interacted with the guy and hate him or even just want attention etc. I’m not saying “should” I’m saying “do” .... normally anyway

It seems in recent years there’s emphasis toward encouraging MSM to minimize creating fame and focus on a criminal. As bizarre as it might seem, even the negative attention has become known to be a motivator to others so inclined. A nobody who wants to be somebody....

This link refers to mass shooters so not quite OT, but still it speaks to the general trend.
'No Notoriety' campaign to not name mass murderers sees progress

 

[minazoe]

Or if they can confirm he was elsewhere on that day they would have to rule him out. His employer and co-workers might be able to verify he was at work. Didn't he have a steady job in 2017?

um, he may have been employed, but homeless. so maybe some day labor...I know people are better at these deets than I am so I will defer to the keepers of the records..we do have an answer to this thought think his brother has commented on this. mOO

 

[SMK777]

with out a good DNA profile ...the best hope they have is a confession...they will have to convince him he is caught and they know everything.

I had been thinking this way, until someone here pointed out (correctly) that his attorney will not allow him to be questioned/ interrogated on the Delphi case.

 

[MsBetsy]

um, he may have been employed, but homeless. so maybe some day labor...I know people are better at these deets than I am so I will defer to the keepers of the records..we do have an answer to this thought think his brother has commented on this. mOO

Yes, his brother said something about him wanting to take some steel from his job and sell it or something like that. I think he said he was living alone.

There's so many different places he could have been, it must be hard for LE to determine whether he was in a halfway house, living with his girlfriend, or camping out under a bridge during that time.

I wonder if they've analyzed his cellphone data by now.

 

[minazoe]

I think it takes awhile to get that cp data ..also he got a new phone so they need to track down past phones. these guys learn so much in prison about evading LE and covering tracks.

something really striking to me is his feet..his shoes in pictures..the rounded toe shoes and small feet are a match for me..

he is absolutely a practiced sadist and vicious killer with unlimited hatred inside no therapist can help him with. He should never go free and I would hate to defend him...it's almost like no one should...I wish he would plead guilty and confess to all his other offenses since he will never see the light of day anyway..
mOO

 

[Yemelyan]

I had been thinking this way, until someone here pointed out (correctly) that his attorney will not allow him to be questioned/ interrogated on the Delphi case.

Not saying that it is the case here, but sometimes offenders will decide on their own that they are going to talk to other investigators, regardless of attorney advice.

Sometimes it's due to boredom and hubris, sometimes it's because they want to bargain for stuff (being moved to a different facility etc), sometimes they want to control their own narrative of what happened. They are allowed to waive the right to have an attorney present.

Not saying it's a good idea, but it happens.

IMO only.

 

[taylorss]

I saw he had a public defender ... maybe they’ll be too overworked to stay on top of it moo

 

[Boxer]

with out a good DNA profile ...the best hope they have is a confession...they will have to convince him he is caught and they know everything.

I also think it's suspect that he literally disappeared from fb at the time of the murders.

on the 13th.

mOO

Do you mean there were consistent daily FB posts, except for 2/13/17?

 

[SMK777]

Not saying that it is the case here, but sometimes offenders will decide on their own that they are going to talk to other investigators, regardless of attorney advice.

Sometimes it's due to boredom and hubris, sometimes it's because they want to bargain for stuff (being moved to a different facility etc), sometimes they want to control their own narrative of what happened. They are allowed to waive the right to have an attorney present.

Not saying it's a good idea, but it happens.

IMO only.

If he is BG, then I certainly hope he does this, and talks!

 

[LaLaw2000]

Does anyone think LE knows who BG is and just doesn't have enough evidence to arrest him? Just waiting for him to do something again?

That is exactly what I think. There are several cases where LE had known for years who a murderer was but just didn't have enough to make an arrest, or the DA refused the case because he/she said there just wasn't enough (circumstantial or direct) evidence.

I firmly believe LE has been watching an individual from early on.

I have followed this case from the beginning but have not posted because I wanted to be caught up before I did. I have watched several threads and not posted.

My 'Dad' jeans opinion remains with me. The great thing about WS is we can state our differing opinions.

With that I am over and out.

 

[SMK777]

'He is hiding in plain sight': Sister of Delphi Snapchat murder victim does NOT believe 'pedophile', 42, who cops say could be linked to the killings is the right man

Sister of Delphi murder victim does NOT believe pedophile cops have linked to killings is murderer | Daily Mail Online

 

[taylorss]

^^ interesting story thx
just want to point out tho that it’s typical Daily Fail fare, where someone else’s reporting (here, the recent podcast) is taken & spun into unsupported but far more interesting headlines/ conclusions.

Nothing new in this piece - Kelsi DID NOT say BJC is not the one - if anything she said she wouldn’t know as LE isn’t sharing info with her. The closest she came to saying he’s not the one is “There is no suspect in custody in this case,” which everyone knows & is undisputed.

(I feel terrible writing anything about Kelsi because her interest in this story so completely dwarfs an outsider like mine so who am I to even comment .... IIRC they are Christians, so that means her beloved baby sister is now at peace while Kelsi struggles on w/o her . But by distorting Kelsi’s words to report a conclusion she didn’t & couldn’t make, I don’t think the Daily Fail is showing the respect & honoring the privacy she deserves JMO)

Daily fail did the same thing with the original story on the 9-yo victim, describing her IIRC as ‘covered in dog bites’ or likewise when there was nothing else reported suggesting even multiple bites let alone ‘covered’

 

[minazoe]

'He is hiding in plain sight': Sister of Delphi Snapchat murder victim does NOT believe 'pedophile', 42, who cops say could be linked to the killings is the right man

Sister of Delphi murder victim does NOT believe pedophile cops have linked to killings is murderer | Daily Mail Online

that's okay. she has the right. It's also the Daily Fail so they will for sure sensationalize ... mOO

 

[LauranUK]

I've not been following this case too much as of late (lots of chiropractor appointments to deal with scoliosis ) so I'm a bit out of tpuch with it.

I just saw my first pic of P.O.I. JBC and i must say that chills ran down my curved spine and i got goose bumps. Imo he looks like both sketches that were released.

I've not had that reaction to seeing pics of any of the other people law enforcement have looked at.