Found Deceased IN - Abigail (Abby) Williams, 13, & Liberty (Libby) German, 14, The Delphi Murders 13 Feb 2017 #140

[TTF14]

It seems to me it's entirely possible that a girl who didn't go to the bridge is the missing link. If it was loosely going a be a group of girls, one girl who might've been catfish unaware communicated that she was (for example) upset that her parents wouldn't let her go (implication being that her friends could). In a scenario like this, A and L would never have been catfished themselves nor have posted their plans/location. A friend may have been the unwitting portal.

JMO

BP said in an interview that KG said her friend was there and BP thought her friend (KG's friend) was going to be there. KG said in an interview that her boyfriend's sister had been there earlier that day but had left by the time the girls got there.

I'm assuming this is the same person. These were two different interviews.

IMO, MOO

 

[JnRyan]

There was also a GH video that addressed the killer's exit, with some details about killer being seen by a witness at cemetery area.

About 15 mins or so in it starts. GH mentions getting a phone call. I can't remember if he also mentions said phone call before the 15 min mark, he might have.

I remember this and it is from 2018. My problem with it is the 'witness' saw them coming through the cemetery area and walking AWAY from the vehicle at the now demolished CPS building. (Then what is the significance of the vehicle seen at the CPS building? Unidentified witness?) My second problem is in 2021, Sheriff Tobe Leazenby states that LE doesn't know his exit path from the crime scene. Of course, for whatever reason, he may be intentionally lying to us. (Mislead the killer?) If so,what else is he lying about in the info given to the public? The other probability is that this falls under what ISP 1st Sgt Holeman stated in his August 2017 interview with Fox59 that none of the folks trying recreate the scene and sequence of events got it right.

 

[HistoryNut]

Anyone else curious about KK’s plea negotiations that fell apart? I certainly am.

 

[Turkeytrot]

Anyone else curious about KK’s plea negotiations that fell apart? I certainly am.

Yep! Definitely curious about that..

 

[sandy_80]

for me BG was in disguise mode...so he was trying to look heavier than he is..his puffed jacket more likely be a way to hide all the tools..
another thought..
is what if he used bleach to clean the crime scene..this would explain a crime scene that is hard to describe or is odd ....if this happened, this means he was def coming with the intent of murder and is more experienced than we estimate

 

[TTF14]

BP said in an interview that KG said her friend was there and BP thought her friend (KG's friend) was going to be there. KG said in an interview that her boyfriend's sister had been there earlier that day but had left by the time the girls got there.

I'm assuming this is the same person. These were two different interviews.

IMO, MOO

Quoting my own post to add:

On episode 1 of the DTH podcast, at 14:30, Becky said, "We knew there had been some other kids out there because when she had asked, Kelsi had talked to her friend and SHE had been, SHE was out there....as a matter of fact, I THOUGHT when they went, that she was still there."

Do we know who this friend is that Kelsi talked to that day and who Kelsi told her grandma was at the trails?

 

[MistyWaters]

Quoting my own post to add:

On episode 1 of the DTH podcast, at 14:30, Becky said, "We knew there had been some other kids out there because when she had asked, Kelsi had talked to her friend and SHE had been, SHE was out there....as a matter of fact, I THOUGHT when they went, that she was still there."

Do we know who this friend is that Kelsi talked to that day and who Kelsi told her grandma was at the trails?

No, I don’t think so. Other than a couple young girls interviewed by the media, it seems everyone has been extra cautious about releasing names of any other children who provided LE with helpful information.

 

[UnapologeticallyAspie]

I remember this and it is from 2018. My problem with it is the 'witness' saw them coming through the cemetery area and walking AWAY from the vehicle at the now demolished CPS building. (Then what is the significance of the vehicle seen at the CPS building? Unidentified witness?)

BBM & snipped for focus.

My own personal thought on that is that that vehicle could potentially be a vehicle that had been witnessed in other missing persons cases and or had been a part of a human trafficking ring, or a pedophile ring.
But that just my M[][]. Only time will tell.

 

[HistoryNut]

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Quoting my own post to add:

On episode 1 of the DTH podcast, at 14:30, Becky said, "We knew there had been some other kids out there because when she had asked, Kelsi had talked to her friend and SHE had been, SHE was out there....as a matter of fact, I THOUGHT when they went, that she was still there."

Do we know who this friend is that Kelsi talked to that day and who Kelsi told her grandma was at the trails?

I must have missed that. Thanks for sharing

 

[paraphrase]

BP said in an interview that KG said her friend was there and BP thought her friend (KG's friend) was going to be there. KG said in an interview that her boyfriend's sister had been there earlier that day but had left by the time the girls got there.

I'm assuming this is the same person. These were two different interviews.

IMO, MOO

I thought this article/video was interesting.

'They talked about a man they saw.'

'The teens said the man seemed out of place.'

'The children described the man wearing all black. Meanwhile, police continue their search for a man dressed differently. '

Memorial grows as police continue search for Delphi girls' killer | wthr.com

 

[155etta]

While I don't have this at the top of my list of possibilities, it is still likely and another to add to the list.

And could explain the "no one intentionally did anything wrong" comment from LE. MOO.

 

[Lavender Moon]

What about that second sketch? Do you think that is of the Anthony Shots profile picture rather than a trail witness? One thing KAK does not have is a full head of curly hair and he doesn't appear younger than his true age.

Ever since I saw the anthony-shots profile picture, I thought it resembled the second sketch. I was reluctant to comment on it because it's said that the
model is innocent.

 

[Tiff23fr]

If the latest social media revelations are part of a leading theory with LE, my mind takes “hiding in plain sight” to a new orbit.

In plain sight, right there on the friends list. Hiding behind a fake photo.

 

[Lavender Moon]

O guess I'm just not seeing that as I would expect each each step being inconsistent instead of favoring one leg over the other. The clip is too short to say one way or not. But yes it is a challenge. I'm just baffed at how he could be navigating and still be able to pounce. Thank you for your insight

I find it baffling, too; but then I consider the possibility that he was very familiar with that bridge and thus had the confidence to both navigate and pounce.

 

[paraphrase]

If the latest social media revelations are part of a leading theory with LE, my mind takes “hiding in plain sight” to a new orbit.

In plain sight, right there on the friends list. Hiding behind a fake photo.

And in real life, is a white male with reddish-brown hair.

 

[Tiff23fr]

And in real life, is a white male with reddish-brown hair.

And his photo may make him appear younger than he really is (JMO)

 

[Deleted member 229974]

Yes. I’ve never thought he was walking weird across that dilapidated bridge.
If you videoed 100 people walking across that bridge they all would be walking funny by necessity or sheer terror of being up there.
I do think his slouch, the way his head is held, hands in pockets, etc are important however.

I agree, and although it seems JBC may not be involved, he, IMO looks like the BG and walks like the BG.

 

[paraphrase]

I wonder what caused police to "hustle" back to the crime scene. Knowing murderers sometimes revisit the scene of the crime, did they place hidden cameras?

'Friday evening, state police hustled back to the crime scene where friends Abby Williams and Libby German were found dead Tuesday.
Undercover officers did some work and left about a half-hour later.
At the same time, troopers checked out a car left at the Monon High Bridge trailhead.'

Memorial grows as police continue search for Delphi girls' killer | wthr.com

 

[photographer4]

Anyone else curious about KK’s plea negotiations that fell apart? I certainly am.

Very curious indeed. What does he have, what could he POSSIBLY have that LE wants in order to get a lighter sentence himself? He must *think* he has something they REALLY want or REALLY need if he is holding out for some sweet deal. I hope LE calls his bluff and I hope he gets whatever the max is for his known crimes against children! I'd be surprised if there isn't more he's done that we and perhaps LE just do not know about yet. He knows what will likely happen if he does hard time for his crimes - I wonder what is worse for him? Holding out and taking whatever without a deal? OR possibly ratting on someone else for something??

 

[HistoryNut]

Very curious indeed. What does he have, what could he POSSIBLY have that LE wants in order to get a lighter sentence himself? He must *think* he has something they REALLY want or REALLY need if he is holding out for some sweet deal. I hope LE calls his bluff and I hope he gets whatever the max is for his known crimes against children! I'd be surprised if there isn't more he's done that we and perhaps LE just do not know about yet. He knows what will likely happen if he does hard time for his crimes - I wonder what is worse for him? Holding out and taking whatever without a deal? OR possibly ratting on someone else for something??

My thoughts exactly. It looks like the courts are playing hardball with him. I hope he gets the maximum sentence for his known crimes. Society isn’t safe with him on the outside. IMO