Found Deceased IN - Abigail (Abby) Williams, 13, & Liberty (Libby) German, 14, The Delphi Murders 13 Feb 2017 #142

[TL4S]

Just think about it. KAK has been on LE's radar since Feb. 2017. They knew about a_shots, searched all his electronic devices, and interviewed him in less than two weeks after the murders. We don't know when LE became aware of his possible communications with L, but can you even imagine the pressure LE would have put on him if he was not BG, but had basically catfished L just prior to her murder? What are the odds?

 

[TL4S]

I've never quite forgotten how KAK said in his interview that "he was f'ed and he should have left." That he'd packed an extra bag and brought it to Vegas, then after he and his dad returned to Peru, he was going to leave when his dad went to sleep.

Clearly, he wasn't arrested right then and there for the murders of A and L, but unless that whole affidavit is in regards to a different case (like maybe an ongoing CSAM case), the polygraph questions and such are based on the Delphi murders. JMO. The fact that he thought he was f'ed and planned to leave even before the search (enough to bring an extra bag to Vegas), indicates to me that the murders might have triggered this response in him. Why? Because he knew he'd been in communication with L and would look suspicious? But then why not wipe his digital devices sooner?

Now we have LE suddenly asking about a_shots after knowing about a-shots for almost 5 years. I've very curious.

https://www.wishtv.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/Kegan-Anthony-Kline-PC.pdf

 

[margarita25]

I’m thinking out loud about a three point reverse timeline, example:

1. Feb. 10 videos, ISP release, msm.

2. Dec. release on KAK/Shots.

3. JBC


* We always think about timelines in chronological order.

Let’s completely reverse the timeline. Z to A.

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Eta: the more I think about this, I like this. Based on what I’ve learned from the covid threads, things are constantly evolving. If we reverse the order, it brings the latest everything to the forefront. In other words, I’m going to forget I know anything and go backwards, jmo.

 

[paraphrase]

I’m shocked his attorney would allow him to speak on record about this unless there’s some absolute way to prove he’s not BG. Like he was incarcerated at the time or something equally irrefutable

I'm really surprised as well. Not that defendants always listen to their attorney. But possibly this is part of his plea agreement as an Informant in a highly-complex case? Moo. Very interesting, for sure.

 

[GrandmaKittyLovesMLE]

Hi. Is HLN TV something other than HLN? Is it an additional pay channel other than what I get with DirecTV? Thanks.

 

[margarita25]

Yeah 5 year anniversary is hitting hard.

The collective energy and commitment couldn’t be stronger. I think that’s a good thing.

eta: tears

 

[Doghairrules]

This might be the last time I ever click on a link from daily mail.

Yep. They got a LOT of details wrong. Ugh.

 

[cujenn81]

Yes, please let us know. I'm siding on the it's all BS and that LE do not have a particular solid suspect in mind. Carter speaks all fancifully and confidently, but hasn't he always? IMO. Still, we will see what that predator says in the HLN interview I guess.

BBM. I lean the same way —unfortunately. I recently listened to a podcast episode of 48 hours that revisited the Yogurt Shop Murders, and one of the investigators in that case said something that really stuck with me. He was talking a bit about working with the FBI and said they instructed him to speak directly to the killer during the press conference. They told him to make confident threats like “we’re coming for you” or “we’re onto you” that would scare the killer(s) and possibly force he/them to act in ways that might reveal their identity. Retired FBI Profiler Jim Clemente has also spoken about this strategy in the past.

IMO, warnings spoken directly to a criminal is a tactic commonly used by LE to evoke a response that will arouse suspicion and lead to tips (e.g., the killer suddenly skips town, he drastically changes his appearance, and so on and so forth).

I think the following old adages might apply here:

“Those who know the least always know it the loudest.”

and

“Confidence is silent; insecurities are loud.”

I desperately hope that my leanings are wrong, though!

 

[margarita25]

BBM. I lean the same way —unfortunately. I recently listened to a podcast episode of 48 hours that revisited the Yogurt Shop Murders, and one of the investigators in that case said something that really stuck with me. He was talking a bit about working with the FBI and said they instructed him to speak directly to the killer during the press conference. They told him to make confident threats like “we’re coming for you” or “we’re onto you” that would scare the killer(s) and possibly force he/them to act in ways that might reveal their identity. Retired FBI Profiler Jim Clemente has also spoken about this on a podcast episode about this case. IMO, warnings spoken directly to the killer is a tactic commonly to evoke a response from him that will arouse suspicions and lead to tips (e.g., suddenly skip town, drastically change his appearance, and so on and so forth).

I think the following old adages might apply here:

“Those who know the least always know it the loudest.”

and

“Confidence is silent; insecurities are loud.”

I desperately hope that my leanings are wrong, though!

Love this. Thanks.

 

[Kittybunny]

Well count me in the cynical and jaded camp because I remain completely unimpressed and unmoved by these proclamations of imminent arrest and we know a lot about you. I know a lot of things about him too, he wears jeans, and blue jackets, and hangs around outside on bridges, he doesn't have blue eyes. Maybe they know more things, but if they don't know who he is, what good is any of it?

I haven't lost hope, I just won't believe they have their guy until he's in handcuffs, mug shotted, and behind bars charged with the murders. The rest is all sound and fury, signifying nothing.

PS I'll still watch the interview with KAK though...

 

[acutename]

Sorry to quote myself but I suppose his public defender can’t stop him if he’s set on providing interviews. All the PD could do is advise him of repercussions

I know about "no money from book- writing for felons" laws- is he paid for his interviews?

 

[livstabler]

Hi. Is HLN TV something other than HLN? Is it an additional pay channel other than what I get with DirecTV? Thanks.

I have the cheapest package on DTV and I have it. Don't know where you live, but it's 204 on mine.

 

[Turkeytrot]

Well count me in the cynical and jaded camp because I remain completely unimpressed and unmoved by these proclamations of imminent arrest and we know a lot about you. I know a lot of things about him too, he wears jeans, and blue jackets, and hangs around outside on bridges, he doesn't have blue eyes. Maybe they know more things, but if they don't know who he is, what good is any of it?

I haven't lost hope, I just won't believe they have their guy until he's in handcuffs, mug shotted, and behind bars charged with the murders. The rest is all sound and fury, signifying nothing.

PS I'll still watch the interview with KAK though...

I'm in the same boat.

I hope they're closing in, but also don't want to get my hopes up.

 

[margarita25]

JBC- a rule out?

I still haven’t watched the videos yet, JBC is a strong POI imo, has he been officially ruled out?

 

[margarita25]

Hi. Is HLN TV something other than HLN? Is it an additional pay channel other than what I get with DirecTV? Thanks.

I don’t know the answer to your question, but I’m thinking we’ll (also), have the links/videos available here ASAP.

 

[GrandmaKittyLovesMLE]

I have the cheapest package on DTV and I have it. Don't know where you live, but it's 204 on mine.

That’s what I have - 204. They kept saying HLN TV. The “TV” made me think it was a special pay channel from HLN. Thanks!

 

[paraphrase]

Sorry to quote myself but I suppose his public defender can’t stop him if he’s set on providing interviews. All the PD could do is advise him of repercussions

Ron Logan gets four years for probation violations unrelated to Delphi killings
"Logansport attorney Andrew Achey ....."

Defendant (Kline) appears in custody and with counsel, Andrew Achey.
Indiana Supreme Court public access case search - MyCase


Other thoughts:
Ron Logan and Kegan Kline both use(d) the same attorney. (see links above)
This attorney would be privy to police reports, search warrants and inventories, and/or interrogations/questioning of both Logan and Kline, and a wealth of other information we can only surmise. Purposely or inadvertently, he has represented 2 high-profile clients in this case.
Logan spoke to the press, too, I believe. MOO

 

[LeBlack]

IF KAK is not involved in any way, directly or indirectly, he's got to be sitting in his cell wondering how in the world he got dragged into this case! "Why me?"

He made false alibis. IMO, because he knew or suspected that he was connected somehow.

 

[Tiff23fr]

A mystery that is still unsolved. And a small town that won't give up until they find justice for Libby and Abby. NewsNation goes to #Delphi -- five years later. Watch our one-on-one interviews & special coverage on Monday, Feb. 14th, 9/8CT on #NewsNationPrime

https://twitter.com/producerpaige_/status/1491927037157818381?s=20&t=iCMmhZ90QWeK6NBecXGtuA

 

[TTF14]

That’s what I have - 204. They kept saying HLN TV. The “TV” made me think it was a special pay channel from HLN. Thanks!

No, it isn't. Maybe just said that way to differentiate from hln.com?