Found Deceased IN - Abigail (Abby) Williams, 13, & Liberty (Libby) German, 14, The Delphi Murders 13 Feb 2017 #144

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  • #581
If he knows how the girls were killed, and someone said to him, “we’ll get you in prison”…

The police have more than likely made it clear to him they believe he's involved. So I'd think that's who he's "afraid" will be putting him in jail. I don't believe for a second KAK is afraid of anyone else putting him in jail besides LE.

I don't believe one word of his saying, "I don't remember" or his "Okay"s or "Right"s...from that redacted 194 page interrogation of KAK by LE.

IMO KAK knows exactly what happened to Abby and Libby because he was involved and a party to it through the anthony_shots account. IMO KAK is a bald-faced liar and is culpable in the girl's murders.

AJMO
 
  • #582
Are there pics of both father and son in 2014? I’d like to see what they looked like at that time. Tyi
 
  • #583
The police have more than likely made it clear to him they believe he's involved. So I'd think that's who he's "afraid" will be putting him in jail. I don't believe for a second KAK is afraid of anyone else putting him in jail besides LE.

I don't believe one word of his saying, "I don't remember" or his "Okay"s or "Right"s...from that redacted 194 page interrogation of KAK by LE.

IMO KAK knows exactly what happened to Abby and Libby because he was involved and a party to it through the anthony_shots account. IMO KAK is a bald-faced liar and is culpable in the girl's murders.

AJMO



These are bold claims when he hasn’t been arrested in 2 years. It’s safe to say LE know a lot more than any of us and he has not been charged.


No doubt he is a vile human being and absolutely abhorrent but there has to be a reason why he hasn’t been charged in connection with their murders.


MOO
 
  • #584
These are bold claims when he hasn’t been arrested in 2 years. It’s safe to say LE know a lot more than any of us and he has not been charged.


No doubt he is a vile human being and absolutely abhorrent but there has to be a reason why he hasn’t been charged in connection with their murders.


MOO
LE has him where they want him for now. They do not have to charge him yet. The CSAM investigation with the drop box info and a large ring of people involved in this ring need attention. They need his help IMHO to nab these people. If they have not charged him yet he is more likely to give up info. If he is not the killer IMHO he knows who is. In the transcript LE made sure to keep reinforcing the idea that he has not been charged with the murders.
 
  • #585
I was under the impression at the time that LE found out a news station was going to break the anthony_shots story the next day. This forced their hand and they felt they needed to preemptively release something. It was almost 10:00 pm that night when ISP released that video asking for info on the AS profile, which was odd timing.

IMO, they have been way too tight lipped with info about this case and should have released that info much sooner to get tips but what do I know? Lol. I also think it's insane that KK was busted for CP in 2017 and walked free for another 3.5 years before his arrest. I'm assuming they were watching him to try to find out more info about others involved but that's a long time for a dangerous person to be roaming free to potentially commit more crimes.
This is what I thought too - LE put the Ashots thing out only because the media was about to talk about it. LE have been tight lipped - and this guy was free for too long after they found CP, IMO. Therefore, I can only assume LE is working behind the scenes on busting people in this ring and gathering evidence for solid cases. In their minds, they told the public early on “know what your kids are doing”, and that’s all they wanted to share with us.
 
  • #586
DBM
 
  • #587
I have a question. Most have read the interview of KAK.

Now, imagine we did not have the photo of the man on the bridge. Maybe, the voice, if the audio extends to…sorry, grim end. Lots of things can be manipulated. Forget the BG. It might be confusing matters.

If we had nothing, but knowing what we know about KAK and TK, would it look like they were involved in murders? Would it stand in court?

I’d say, yes, were there evidence of another interest, not CSAM, on their media. Photos of mutilated bodies, for example. Something dead.

Do we have anything from KAK indicating that he was into dead, not alive, pervert interests?
 
  • #588
The police have more than likely made it clear to him they believe he's involved. So I'd think that's who he's "afraid" will be putting him in jail. I don't believe for a second KAK is afraid of anyone else putting him in jail besides LE.

I don't believe one word of his saying, "I don't remember" or his "Okay"s or "Right"s...from that redacted 194 page interrogation of KAK by LE.

IMO KAK knows exactly what happened to Abby and Libby because he was involved and a party to it through the anthony_shots account. IMO KAK is a bald-faced liar and is culpable in the girl's murders.

AJMO

Not “putting in jail”. “Reaching” and killing, even behind bars. Someone he considers to be a “connected” criminal.
 
  • #589
I have a question. Most have read the interview of KAK.

Now, imagine we did not have the photo of the man on the bridge. Maybe, the voice, if the audio extends to…sorry, grim end. Lots of things can be manipulated. Forget the BG. It might be confusing matters.

If we had nothing, but knowing what we know about KAK and TK, would it look like they were involved in murders? Would it stand in court?

I’d say, yes, were there evidence of another interest, not CSAM, on their media. Photos of mutilated bodies, for example. Something dead.

Do we have anything from KAK indicating that he was into dead, not alive, pervert interests?
I’m not sure if this is relevant, but they do talk about him searching “Sandy Hook bodies” or something like that during the interview. It pains me to even write that…
 
  • #590
I have a question. Most have read the interview of KAK.

Now, imagine we did not have the photo of the man on the bridge. Maybe, the voice, if the audio extends to…sorry, grim end. Lots of things can be manipulated. Forget the BG. It might be confusing matters.

If we had nothing, but knowing what we know about KAK and TK, would it look like they were involved in murders? Would it stand in court?

I’d say, yes, were there evidence of another interest, not CSAM, on their media. Photos of mutilated bodies, for example. Something dead.

Do we have anything from KAK indicating that he was into dead, not alive, pervert interests?



I still wouldn’t say guilty even without the bridge photo. I think his accounts could of been hackable quite easy and it’s probably somebody he knows in some form but it’s not him. The type of person he is means he would of know many more like himself.


IMO
 
  • #591
These are bold claims when he hasn’t been arrested in 2 years. It’s safe to say LE know a lot more than any of us and he has not been charged.


No doubt he is a vile human being and absolutely abhorrent but there has to be a reason why he hasn’t been charged in connection with their murders.


MOO
I think the FBI has a hand in the whole let's not arrest yet so we can glean more information to catch and bring down a whole network. I also think there was missed connection between the anthony_shots account and Libby. Whether they underestimated KAK and his father's involvement and thought someone else was the root and they needed KAK out there to find that out or it was just overlooked on that iPhone 4.

AJMO
 
  • #592
Not “putting in jail”. “Reaching” and killing, even behind bars. Someone he considers to be a “connected” criminal.
I get what you're saying, I just believe he is the connected criminal. I don't think he fears anyone but LE. It was in his manner and words when LE said certain things to him, his demeanor changed and I just saw how devious he was. AJMO
 
  • #593
I have a question. Most have read the interview of KAK.

Now, imagine we did not have the photo of the man on the bridge. Maybe, the voice, if the audio extends to…sorry, grim end. Lots of things can be manipulated. Forget the BG. It might be confusing matters.

If we had nothing, but knowing what we know about KAK and TK, would it look like they were involved in murders? Would it stand in court?

I’d say, yes, were there evidence of another interest, not CSAM, on their media. Photos of mutilated bodies, for example. Something dead.

Do we have anything from KAK indicating that he was into dead, not alive, pervert interests?

I take your point but that would still not stand up a murder conviction, it’s circunstancial.
 
  • #594
I get what you're saying, I just believe he is the connected criminal. I don't think he fears anyone but LE. It was in his manner and words when LE said certain things to him, his demeanor changed and I just saw how devious he was. AJMO
ITA, reading his words and responses carefully showed just what a master manipulator and lying liar who lies KK is.

MOO
 
  • #595
...I’d say, yes, were there evidence of another interest, not CSAM, on their media. Photos of mutilated bodies, for example. Something dead.

Do we have anything from KAK indicating that he was into dead, not alive, pervert interests?

Yes, as someone mentioned there was a supposed Sandy Hook search. I will also say that both the JonBenet and Nicole Brown/Ron Goldman searches are interesting in that both of those cases have crime scene and body photos freely available in searches.
 
  • #596
ITA, reading his words and responses carefully showed just what a master manipulator and lying liar who lies KK is.

MOO
There was one spot where I actually got chills down my spine and said to myself, ohhh ok I see you.
 
  • #597
Are there pics of both father and son in 2014? I’d like to see what they looked like at that time. Tyi
I am not aware of any from that early, and I hope your question brings some photos I haven't seen before. I'm attaching the three photos I'm aware of and relatively sure of.

On the far right is the 2020 arrest mugshot. That's 3.5 years after the murders. In the center is a photo TK put on FB, saying it's KAK in 2018 "when my baby boy hasn't been home in two years." There's no reason to think the date is correct; we saw TK lying about when KAK was in the Delphi area elsewhere, and we know for a fact KAK was in that part of Indiana in Feb 2017 when the house was searched--so TK appears deliberately to be lying about KAK's travel history. And we have to wonder if the "2018" there is accurate or a deliberate misstatement.

The shot on the far left is the "Hoover Dam photo"--this is *presumably* from a trip to the Las Vegas area and I think it's probably the closest photo I know to the murders, spring 2017. So the kid in the D0dgers shirt is the photo to compare to BG. I've already bored people with the numbers; in the D0dgers shirt, KAK appears (to me, JMHO) to be borderline between "overweight" and "obese" (i.e., BMI of around 30.) Definitely not "morbidly obese" or even close.

If you find other photos of KAK in which we can be relatively sure of the date, please share them! --ken
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  • #598
Yes, as someone mentioned there was a supposed Sandy Hook search. I will also say that both the JonBenet and Nicole Brown/Ron Goldman searches are interesting in that both of those cases have crime scene and body photos freely available in searches.
Yeah that one was particularity enraging to me...my cousin's two little girls were sick that day and lost friends. That just showed a whole different depravity that KAK has, IMO I believe him not one whit that it wasn't him that searched that and the videos of very young children that he got so defensive about. AJMO
 
  • #599
I am not aware of any from that early, and I hope your question brings some photos I haven't seen before. I'm attaching the three photos I'm aware of and relatively sure of.

On the far right is the 2020 arrest mugshot. That's 3.5 years after the murders. In the center is a photo TK put on FB, saying it's KAK in 2018 "when my baby boy hasn't been home in two years." There's no reason to think the date is correct; we saw TK lying about when KAK was in the Delphi area elsewhere, and we know for a fact KAK was in that part of Indiana in Feb 2017 when the house was searched--so TK appears deliberately to be lying about KAK's travel history. And we have to wonder if the "2018" there is accurate or a deliberate misstatement.

The shot on the far left is the "Hoover Dam photo"--this is *presumably* from a trip to the Las Vegas area and I think it's probably the closest photo I know to the murders, spring 2017. So the kid in the D0dgers shirt is the photo to compare to BG. I've already bored people with the numbers; in the D0dgers shirt, KAK appears (to me, JMHO) to be borderline between "overweight" and "obese" (i.e., BMI of around 30.) Definitely not "morbidly obese" or even close.

If you find other photos of KAK in which we can be relatively sure of the date, please share them! --ken
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Thanks for those, I'd not seen two of them. Do we know if KAK's high school picture online by any chance? I don't know which one he went to but I'm asking because that picture on the left, if you took another 10-15 pounds off could be very close to sketch#2, IMO
 
  • #600
I am not aware of any from that early, and I hope your question brings some photos I haven't seen before. I'm attaching the three photos I'm aware of and relatively sure of.

On the far right is the 2020 arrest mugshot. That's 3.5 years after the murders. In the center is a photo TK put on FB, saying it's KAK in 2018 "when my baby boy hasn't been home in two years." There's no reason to think the date is correct; we saw TK lying about when KAK was in the Delphi area elsewhere, and we know for a fact KAK was in that part of Indiana in Feb 2017 when the house was searched--so TK appears deliberately to be lying about KAK's travel history. And we have to wonder if the "2018" there is accurate or a deliberate misstatement.

The shot on the far left is the "Hoover Dam photo"--this is *presumably* from a trip to the Las Vegas area and I think it's probably the closest photo I know to the murders, spring 2017. So the kid in the D0dgers shirt is the photo to compare to BG. I've already bored people with the numbers; in the D0dgers shirt, KAK appears (to me, JMHO) to be borderline between "overweight" and "obese" (i.e., BMI of around 30.) Definitely not "morbidly obese" or even close.

If you find other photos of KAK in which we can be relatively sure of the date, please share them! --ken
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So...I'm not a fan of side-by-sides and taking personal photos and sharing them. But there's a picture going around of TK when he was younger and the similarity to the YG sketch is shocking. Not sure if it goes against the rules but I could post them if it's okay. I think it is relevant, as sometimes you can't see a resemblance until you look at an old photo between family.
 
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