Found Deceased IN - Abigail (Abby) Williams, 13, & Liberty (Libby) German, 14, The Delphi Murders 13 Feb 2017 #93

[Laughing]

You made me spray coffee all over my keyboard...LOL !.....moo

Aw, cody22, lemme help you with that:

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(fingers crossed that this link works!)

 

[Wells]

What is outlandish? That I made an observation? Based on this SKETCH and the eyes in this sketch? Facts are facts, and observations.... are simply observations. I M O

That you can surmise someone's intellectual capacity from a sketch based on the approximation of an individual who may not even be known.

 

[carmenugt]

Let's remain respectful. Not everyone is an expert sleuther. I am sure not. I do miss things and sometimes need direction toward a map or video.
This may be a first time for them. Let's direct them to the top of the thread where to find information.
I don't think it is far fetched to help fill in some gaps for them or point them in the right direction . If you are bothered by that notion, pehaps politely scroll by. I do when people ask the same question over and over again. I don't let it mess with my peace. I just move on .

 

[carmenugt]

I haven’t seen “The Shack”, but from what I’m reading, it could possibly push some buttons for a psychotic women hating Christian.
MOO

“When it first published, “The Shack” was called blasphemous and a “load of crap,” and one scholar opined that Young’s depiction was evidence that evangelicals “were succumbing to the feminist pressure to image God in feminine ways.””

Why God is a curvy, black woman in ‘The Shack’ and some Christian critics say it’s ‘heresy’
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ritics-say-its-heresy/?utm_term=.bf62b0c201f6

It is just too deep for me. lol

 

[cluciano63]

there is a reason IMO that the 14th was chosen, not the 13th......

Typo? Valentine’s Day? As another member pointed out, when you look up the info now, both say 2/13. Jmo

 

[Quinquin]

I don’t know much about DNA tests and I wonder, did your DNA test specify any age parameters?

I gave my age so I don't know about that...I'm curious too..I would think there would be some cell degradation or something???

 

[girlhasnoname]

That's what kids do these days. And to think, when I was a kid we occasionally used a Casio to make a rape recording of each other telling jokes and making fart noises. Now they use smart phones to record every moment of their lives. And publish it on social media.

 

[JillR]

WS is such an incredible forum and a place where everyone should feel included and not excluded. Every opinion or observation counts. Some people seem to be here 24/7 and some people hit the like button to some of my posts when I ask a question... it’s quite interesting. I will stay on topic.. and that is finding the killer. NOT if you go to the bathroom alone, etc.. The families went to Crime con And were so shocked that people there didn’t know about the Abby Libby case. People there thought this case was solved... so guess what WS??? These families need US... to spread this photo. To spread the word for HELP

 

[cluciano63]

From my research, getting a person’s age from DNA is not at all perfected...will be eventually, probably. But not in use as such.

 

[Deleted member 158085]

One of the hardest lessons to learn here is to scroll and roll. The mods teach this through time-outs, I can tell you. Worse, though, threads get locked for EVERYONE sometimes.

 

[rosesfromangels]

Where is our dear Zencompass when we need some good thread harmony.

Oh Zen....

 

[Quinquin]

My spouse is a SPED teacher and has worked with special needs adults and kids for almost fifteen years. That is wildly outlandish statement.

I agree. I have a son who is on the autism spectrum and no one who meets him would ever have a clue of his struggle just by looking in his eyes.

 

[CSIDreamer]

When my family member (in her 20's) was murdered the original intent was sexual assault but she fought back and it enraged him. He killed her. The other girls he killed before were under 1o years old, he attacked them, raped them, sodomized them and killed them both at the same time. Not your average serial killer.

So sorry. So much loss on this board.

 

[Sulamith]

New guy looks “slow/special ed” to me. As a veteran educator and school administrator/principal, I can always look at the eyes and see what is or is not registering...

What do you look at if the student is visually impaired/blind?

 

[acutename]

IMO, the timeline of the girls drop off time and agreed pick-up time is tight. They were not given a whole lot of time to be at the park. This had to happen fair quickly after they were dropped off.

I have wondered how this person was able to take control of both of them. I know the way they were killed or what injuries they sustained have not been released.

It does appear to me when the BG is walking, he has something bulky under his coat. I don’t believe they were shot, someone would have heard that. Did he use a stun gun? Whatever happened, had to be quick, I would think. I don’t think it would be that easy to overpower two teenage girls, without one being able to take off. It’s possible, with sheer fear coming over them, commanding them was enough.

Any thoughts on them being pushed off that bridge, then the BG going down to where they had landed?

That sounds like an unpredictable outcome and he was ordering them to walk down, so I would guess no. As per HG's video, AW was already off the bridge when she was filming.

 

[Deleted member 158085]

Where is our dear Zencompass when we need some good thread harmony.

Oh Zen....

My dear Rosesfromangels....

Nah, I can’t impersonate her beyond that. But maybe we can send out the zen bat signal.

 

[MistyWaters]

I did one early on. It is in the media thread.

That’s fantastic, I thought I remembered one! Do you happen to know the post number as I look forward to assisting by promoting your efforts!

 

[everybodhi]

My dear Rosesfromangels....

Nah, I can’t impersonate her beyond that. But maybe we can send out the zen bat signal.

or a Zen cat signal may work..

 

[acutename]

It's a shame because we really should be exposing children to nature and letting them explore alone or with friends (I grew up hanging out in the woods) - this case is extremely rare (which is why it's so shocking) and shouldn't dissuade parents from allowing their children freedom to explore the woods.

They were used to being outdoors- if you read this article, on one of the anniversaries, the family visited AW's favorite fishing spots:

https://www.wthr.com/article/police...of-man-behind-them-in-audio-played-for-family

I think going on the bridge hike was normal and not considered unsafe and I think they probably ran into people outdoors before, maybe even a few strange ones, but not a murderer. I think, IMO, it is really weird that he picked two girls. I am asking myself, how many would have been safe? Would he have killed three girls or four? I think that their parents thought they were safe together and that the park was a normal place for them to go.

 

[Quinquin]

That was an accident. Do the research. The family has stated they were in a state of shock.

What was an accident? What are you talking about?