IN - Abigail Williams, 13, & Liberty German, 14, Delphi, 13 Feb 2017 #21

[CementPond]

I wonder how many others may have been to that bridge/track or area that day? I wonder if they took any photos (like most of us do)? And I wonder if they looked through those pics to see if they see anything or anyone fitting the BG's description? I also wonder if anyone tagged themselves on that bridge or the surrounding area and if we searched such tags on FB, would we come across any photos taken there that day? Who knows how long he MAY have been there before the girls came upon him or he upon the girls. Just a thought. But ones I'm sure others have thought of or looked for.

 

[kirkassoc]

Sounds plausible. I buy that scenario. Down the hill - to my car. They make a run for it, he kills them. Or he has them in the car and dumps them.

You know, if these young girls had ever had any classes (at school, etc.) on self-defense, one of the very first things they teach you is to NEVER, EVER get in a vehicle or leave the scene with a criminal. Run, scream, fight, anything, but DO NOT get in a vehicle or let them take you anywhere. I haven't had any classes in self-defense, but I do remember watching some and reading "what to do, etc." If BG had a vehicle (on the private road in the picture or somewhere near the cemetery), if their self-preservation had kicked in, I believe they would have taken off running before getting into a vehicle. JMO, of course. What puzzles me is why no one reported screams, etc.? If there was one perpetrator, he would have had to "disqualify" one victim in order to attack the other, IMO. But, you know, I've always heard (and am reminded from time to time how true it is) that real life is stranger than fiction, some times. This may be one of those times.

I am so glad LE has not and does not release information that would be pertinent to bringing this killer to justice. I check on here every morning (and during the day), hoping there will be an arrest. I did the same for months/years in the Samantha and Kathy Netherland murders. I believe this investigation is being handled by some of the very best in the field. They are being methodical and thorough in order to gather and keep close all that's necessary to prosecute and win this case. Just some random thoughts this morning. VICTORY is coming!

 

[margarita25]

I have never been happier that I quit smoking (almost 6 months). I don't even know what to say about a vaping hoodie.

(Congratulations on this, perfectingpink! That's awesome!)

 

[TTF14]

Ok, when I crop the pic, I can see right through the brown part where there has been speculation it is a fan by pack. I see his hand gripping what looks to be a butterfly knife. I think the brown is just some shading to cover that up? If you follow from his right hand, down his pant legs, you'll see it

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I had to Google "butterfly knife" because I didn't know what it was. Could be a good clue. I know nothing about knives; is that a common knife people carry?

 

[Bird of Paradise]

Originally Posted by Bird of Paradise
My thoughts from the beginning. There's a connection to knowing about the Logan property IMO. Mr Logan said the area is very difficult to reach.

"You are going to be just as confused as I was as to how did these two little girls got here from the high bridge with all of this rough terrain..."

"They would have had to come over through this territory…not an easy trip,"

http://fox59.com/2017/02/16/delphi-m...-his-property/

Also, If you watch the most recent video of the woman crossing the bridge there is a point where she makes a comment about seeing a homeowner and being careful not to go on private property.

What video is that?

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Sorry it was the video circulating yesterday and I did not save the link. It's in many threads though.

 

[Cryptonite]

Driving down the private drive requires a vehicle to pass by 10+ houses lol. He didn't drive a vehicle.

Correct but could have parked around the Wilson bridge area for his escape.went from scene east along the creek unnoticed moo

 

[CementPond]

Pertaining to the bold part.........maybe it's me and I'm nuts but, in all the videos we've seen of the area and other people DOWN IN THE AREA, it DOES NOT look rough or treacherous to me like he says. Maybe because I love and am in the outdoors often but I look at the area and think it would be no big deal to walk through. ESPECIALLY now in Winter. Now, come Summer that may be a different story once all the trees, shrubs and whatnot fill in but for right now, looks easy to navigate through to me.

Originally Posted by Bird of Paradise
My thoughts from the beginning. There's a connection to knowing about the Logan property IMO. Mr Logan said the area is very difficult to reach.

"You are going to be just as confused as I was as to how did these two little girls got here from the high bridge with all of this rough terrain..."

"They would have had to come over through this territory…not an easy trip,"

http://fox59.com/2017/02/16/delphi-m...-his-property/

Also, If you watch the most recent video of the woman crossing the bridge there is a point where she makes a comment about seeing a homeowner and being careful not to go on private property.




Sorry it was the video circulating yesterday and I did not save the link. It's in many threads though.

 

[Jill1124]

Myself and others do NOT think his accent sounds Midwest like many have stated, but rather East of Indiana. I would love to hear this point discussed. AND many of us clearly hear the quick "ga" for "Go down the hill"... That is IMPORTANT. Liberty left THAT CLUE for us..​

 

[layer]

On Google Maps it looks like on N625W the blacktop ends and passes only one house where it becomes gravel/dirt, continuing no houses until it ends at the house on the East end. But the image on Maps was taken with full foliage. Are there many houses along that unpaved portion that goes under the bridge? Since it is a private road is there a gate?

Again, I have seen it reported that it is not a private road. There is no gate. In the gold prospecting video they appear to be using this road and parking on the south/east side of the creek.

Aside from the one house at the end of the road, there is one house on the left, right after the road splits.

 

[Dr.Strangelove]

That is exactly my point.. Myself and others do NOT think his accent sounds Midwest like you state, but rather East of Indiana. I would love to hear this point debated and not shopping bags. (With all due respect) AND many of us clearly hear the quick "ga" for "Go down the hill"... That is IMPORTANT. Liberty left THAT CLUE for us..

I haven't personally heard it, I just know some locals said it sounded local. But how much can be discussed about accent? Its been discussed quite a bit when the audio first came out.

 

[Grimlynn]

Marking my spot for later. Have a great day guys

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[lora]

Also, referring to that person we are allowed to talk about on here, I think I found his old MySpace account. He seems to be very into martial arts and the Punisher character. If he is indeed ex military, he would have very good tactical skills which would explain a lot...IMO

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[Momma2cam]

Myself and others do NOT think his accent sounds Midwest like many have stated, but rather East of Indiana. I would love to hear this point discussed. AND many of us clearly hear the quick "ga" for "Go down the hill"... That is IMPORTANT. Liberty left THAT CLUE for us..​

I lived in Indiana for 2 years for graduate school and am from Michigan. I do not hear a "Midwest accent " as there are numerous accents in the midwest. It does not sound like a Michigan dialect or an urban Indiana dialect but it definitely sounds like a middle rural indiana dialect. If you get just outside of Bloomington or Indianapolis, this is how people sound. As you get further south and closer to Kentucky, it gets much more southern. JMO.

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[ninij9]

My observation as a consumer who carries groceries in plastic grocery bags (like pictured above); is that after they have been used to carry a heavier type load, the plastic stretches a bit and becomes stiffer. In the above pic, the right handle looks more like what I'm trying to describe.

Exactly.

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[ocgrad]

FBI Assistant Special Agent In-Charge comments:
14:35 - working with FBI's Behavioral Analysis Unit
23:50 - at this time doesn't appear to be work of Serial Killer

https://youtu.be/P1uSKrtYdDw

Thank you for this youtube link. When I watched I did not hear it said this doesn't appear to the the work of a SK. At 23:50 the FBI deputy is saying they have interstate capabilities. Is there another video you heard it?

 

[liltexans]

[video=twitter;838769953994059776]https://twitter.com/ISPIndianapolis/status/838769953994059776[/video]

 

[heaterann]

Thank you for this youtube link. When I watched I did not hear it said this doesn't appear to the the work of a SK. At 23:50 the FBI deputy is saying they have interstate capabilities. Is there another video you heard it?

If they are saying it does not appear to be the work of a SK, then perhaps they believe they have a motive? This would also further lead us to believe perhaps the person is local or has local ties. JMO

 

[dyannaON]

Had a busy weekend. It appears I have a novel to read. [emoji15]


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[lora]

This is a different JW. I saw the myspace when I was looking through SM yesterday.

Ok sorry!!

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[Nonna Gigi]

Don't know if this has already been posted. News item from March 1st. Basically saying there might be a press conference soon per Indiana State Police Sgt. Tony Slocum.

http://wlfi.com/2017/03/01/delphi-v...ation-update-families-may-talk-to-media-soon/

I hope it's soon. Maybe they'll release some new info that the public can help with.