IN - Abigail Williams, 13, & Liberty German, 14, Delphi, 13 Feb 2017 #29

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The estimate that I have read in most of the groups from some pretty savy individuals said 6"-6.1"
 
Thought about this a bit. It's possible, but this wouldn't be much of a "twist" for an investigator with much more information than we have. For example, if one of the girls was murdered immediately, and the other was stabbed and died multiple hours later, the investigator would probably not call that a "twist", it would just be a tragic detail in the coroner's report. It would certainly raise questions about the timeline, motive, etc. but again, not much of a twist.

A twist is something that leads you in another direction than you were going. An example would be something like two teenage girls being brutally murdered but without any sign of sexual assault or apparent motive.

When was the "twist" comment made? Was it before or after the cellphone footage was released? It's possible the twist was simply the recording itself combined with the lack of identifying information and/or motive. That's an extremely unusual situation for any murder.

Another thought on the "twist." Could it be they were found in two different locations (within walking distance of each other, but separate). Comments in news media earlier on mentioned "beneath two hills." I gathered from that, they were in different locations. JMO, MOO
 
Abby is dressed the same way girls of her age dress here in Indiana.

If you look at Instagram photos of girls her age you will see that is often how they dress.

Indiana isn't some hopelessly backward state where we all wear sweats and hiking boots 24/7.
She is dressed normally, yes, but normal for a social outing.
 
She is dressed normally, yes, but normal for a social outing.

She is dressed normally for a girl who is getting photos taken in a scenic setting.

Libby was a photographer and probably she had planned to take pictures of Abby.
 
I keep thinking I read that Abby and her mom had moved to Delphi recently. I wonder if they hired the same moving company that JW works (worked) at. A bit of a stretch but perhaps he noticed her then.


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Her and Libby had been best friends for years, and best to my knowledge Libby never lived in Michigan.
 
The area they were found was near Deer Creek (not the Wabash River), which was just over 3 feet deep at the time, give or take, as I understand it according to some flow charts posted by NiN awhile ago. If I've misunderstood the question and you really did mean the Wabash river, then I'm sorry, I don't know the answer.

Oops sorry, and Thank You I was definitely mixed up and wondering about Deer Creek...so it definitely would have been deep enough for a canoe right?
 
@elmomom sorry idk how to respond directly to your post. Why would LE say "there is no danger to the public" and then imply there was with the "at least know what's going on in your children's lives, is all I can say right now"? IMO the LE officer was upset and let that slip.

To calm people down so there was no panic or mass hysteria. Reading between the lines, they were saying don't take your eyes off of your children for a minute.


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The picture of Abby fishing makes me tear up. She looks so cute in her jeans with her sneakers peaking out. I love seeing girls fish. Maybe because I fished as a kid, too.

For some reason it makes me emotional. Sweet girls. So awful.
 
IMO the girls knew him. And he never wears jeans....


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Thread is closed. Give it a rest while we get a new thread ready.

In the meantime, someone please find me the New Rules that say bickering and rudeness is okay, rumors can be discussed, screenshots from other than MSM or LE can be popped into the thread, copying quotes from social media is now acceptable, and shouting in caps because your questions wasn't answered is okay.

Check back later for a new thread.
 
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