IN - Abigail Williams, 13, & Liberty German, 14, Delphi, 13 Feb 2017 #39

[MIKAYOYO]

Any new news?

Doesn't appear to be. Same old crap and once again felt like I was in another thread. Sigh.

 

[layer]

I don't believe any of these victims were little girls...not the same type of attraction...

7/24/94:
Natasha Crockett (13) and her sister Nicole (10) were playing with their cousins across from their home when they noticed a brown and tan colored van parked across the street in Logansport, IN. The driver was writing something down. The van pulled up to the girls and asked them if they knew where Woodlawn Street was. When they said no, the man asked Natasha if they would like to go for a ride. They said no and ran into their home. The young ladies told their parents about the van, and when the van was driving by their house the parents got the license plate number the van was registered to Larry Hall.

 

[Deleted member 196796]

Any theory why? For his use or to use on someone else. I would have a tough time thinking he needed oxygen. But, like those oxygen bars people go to, wonder if it's to give him a boost?

Let's turn it around a little. If it is an O2 mask using any sort of gas, maybe he is packing a pony bottle of nitrous oxide under that jacket to subdue his victims?

 

[liltexans]

If the videos by GH are accurate, they were off of the bridge, and BG was nearly 80 feet away. They could've ran in any direction. It looks like they didn't move at all. It's something I have thought about before.

I very much appreciate GH's videos, but he is also working with limited information. Some members here believe the girls were still on the bridge when Libby started recording.

Maybe the girls did run, but didn't get away. We don't know since LE hasn't told us and hasn't released any more of the video or audio from Libby's phone. They might have tried to run and one of them tripped and the other stopped to help and the guy caught up with them. There's too much we don't know.

 

[cloudajo]

If the videos by GH are accurate, they were off of the bridge, and BG was nearly 80 feet away. They could've ran in any direction. It looks like they didn't move at all. It's something I have thought about before.

Speculation: I think it's possible that when Libby took the video of the suspect further away, he hadn't actually done anything at that point, but perhaps she sensed something was off. I think perhaps when the suspect got closer to them, he may have grabbed Libby and used a weapon to threaten them ('if you make any noise or try to run...'). Libby may have not gotten a video of him at that point but perhaps she slipped her phone in her pocket and it continued to record but just audio from that point. They couldn't do anything - I know I would have done exactly what he said.

References:

Mike Patty speaks to the media: ‘…Obviously, she's a smart girl. She really was. But we talk a lot about being, having the presence of mind of your surroundings…’ ‘…obviously she had presence of mind, sensed something a little strange there, and I’m glad she did. Very glad.’ (Ref)

Patty believes his granddaughter sensed something was wrong that day, so she hit record on her phone. (Ref)

ISP Sgt. Tony Slocum called German a hero for turning on her phone's video camera in time to record her assailant. ‘This young lady is a hero, there’s no doubt," he said. "To have enough presence of mind to activate that video system on her cellphone, to record what we believe is criminal behavior that's about to occur.’ (Ref)

 

[liltexans]

I'm not really sold on the 2 perp theory yet, but it's also possible that there were 2 (or more) perps and the first perp "herded" the girls toward the second perp. They might have thought they were running away only to run straight into another perp.

It's not my favorite theory, but I can't completely rule it out since LE still hasn't made an arrest or publicly announced that they are certain there was only one perp.

 

[layer]

If the videos by GH are accurate, they were off of the bridge, and BG was nearly 80 feet away. They could've ran in any direction. It looks like they didn't move at all. It's something I have thought about before.

Maybe GH has a new video, but in the last one I saw from him (Libby and Abby precise image locations) he placed Libby on the bridge, on the last platform.

[video=youtube;cHpzjx51h5A]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHpzjx51h5A[/video]

 

[rainny03]

This video is intetesting. Hes great at these.

The idea the girls were off the bridge makes me think though...

- Was one already hurt at video recording start?
- Why is there no video of suspect getting closer and closer unless the girls accidently shot it?
- If the girls were scared youd assume they kept moving after video....
- At that distance why not run and ring police

Does anyone else think the capture of this his image is at first accidental they maybe later video audio is the one on purpose?

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IMO that is what I think ..I think that the BG had the girls film this and do the recording ?? I believe that he is taunting the police and the families but this is all just IMO .. I'm wondering if this has happened before at other crime scenes ? what is anyone else's take on this theory ?

 

[liltexans]

Although the large satellite truck is gone from the headquarters – its leaving made some people cry, courthouse workers said – there are still at least five FBI agents working the case locally, Carroll County Sheriff Tobe Leazenby said March 27.

“If we need to bring more back in, they’re just a matter of a phone call away,” he added.


“There were fears or concerns that the case was going cold, but that is not the case,” Leazenby said emphatically. “The case is not going cold. Let’s face it, just because we had this, crimes didn’t stop in the other jurisdictions.”

http://www.newsbug.info/monticello_...cle_5459225a-135c-11e7-b495-631c33246512.html

 

[ReggieHammond]

Think about it like this, when I was 4th grade a bunch of us were at a creek. A guy same difference away from us flashed us. We screamed and half ran half froze. I was grabbing the frozen ones to start moving. Now in this time he could have caught up to us. He just went on his way. It's just hard to tell what one would do.

I totally understand how that can happen. In this case, Libby had the presence of mind to film the suspect. I think they encountered him earlier on the trail, so when he appeared again, Libby was alert enough to pull out her phone and record. I will always wonder why they didn't run like hell. JMO

 

[Zac90]

Jen I surfed the Carhartt site and didn't find one exactly like that one but I believe what Zac is saying that it is a Carhartt. Take a look on their web site and see if you can make a match or it could be an older style they no longer make.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Waterproof-...379875?hash=item4d561f6523:g:dKoAAOSwsW9YzD9J

This is not the same photo I saved but very similar. It's apparently not the jacket BG USC wearing because this has pockets and is cinched. I do think BG has a blue jacket with this type of sleeves.

 

[Bemused]

It may not be that brand it's just the only nylon jacket I could find that snaps/buttons, is this color of blue and has the black stripe down each sleeve. Thanks for looking into it!

Try images.google.com and try relevant keywords.

 

[trenchmouth]

Case is going cold. I'm starting to think they have no clue who did it. Especially after spending so much time on RL who we all know had nothing to do with it.

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[GhostGhost]

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The Police don't want to release anything, but they will. They'll be begging for interest when it becomes clear they didn't get anywhere.

If this guy gets away with it, he's going to do it again, bet on it.


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[stuart m]

BRILLIANT!!.. I now understand perfect. That video say's it all.

 

[Bemused]

It may not be that brand it's just the only nylon jacket I could find that snaps/buttons, is this color of blue and has the black stripe down each sleeve. Thanks for looking into it!

It's also often the case that colors are nowhere near to reality.

 

[otto]

Otto:
I don't think i explained my self all that well (again) . You are obviously good natured so thanks for being that way. Perhaps this article can better explain what I was trying to say.

http://www.space.com/23277-dangerous-asteroids-incredible-technology.html

Thanks! I get it. I did make the wrong assumption when looking at the gif - perhaps just wishful thinking that we had footage of the suspect walking.

It concerns me that we're 6 weeks into this and there is no arrest. If there is DNA from the crime scene, there's a good chance it has been fast-tracked and analyzed. Given that there has not been an arrest, that suggests that if there is DNA it does not match a known suspect. The suspect will have disposed of all the clothing he was wearing that day, and we haven't heard that any of the clothing has been located. I think it's unlikely that the suspect lives in Delphi and, given the photo, it's unlikely that he will go there for a very long time.

One thing about the voice on the audio clip - my guess is a smoker in his 30s or early 40s.

 

[ReggieHammond]

I very much appreciate GH's videos, but he is also working with limited information. Some members here believe the girls were still on the bridge when Libby started recording.

Maybe the girls did run, but didn't get away. We don't know since LE hasn't told us and hasn't released any more of the video or audio from Libby's phone. They might have tried to run and one of them tripped and the other stopped to help and the guy caught up with them. There's too much we don't know.

You are correct.

 

[Techjunkie]

I totally understand how that can happen. In this case, Libby had the presence of mind to film the suspect. I think they encountered him earlier on the trail, so when he appeared again, Libby was alert enough to pull out her phone and record. I will always wonder why they didn't run like hell. JMO

hindsight is 20/20. They were children. Adults like me might lock up, we don't know what they went through. Not criticizing your comment.

 

[MIKAYOYO]

Case is going cold. I'm starting to think they have no clue who did it. Especially after spending so much time on RL who we all know had nothing to do with it.

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I tend to agree. Can't help but think of Missy Beavers case. They have the killer on video and we're coming upon a year. LE is quiet on that case also. I hope and pray LE has their guy(s) and Libby and Abby will have the justice they so deserve.