IN - Abigail Williams, 13, & Liberty German, 14, Delphi, 13 Feb 2017 #44

[Bemused]

He was seen at TS by an officer...so he has a time it happened hours before they even went to bridge.


[emoji237]Always My Own Opinion[emoji4]

Do you have a link to confirmation from LE he was seen by an officer? TIA

 

[Burnt Toast]

I don't know. I believe bond was granted, but perhaps his attorney advised staying in for now for RL's safety or some other reason.

my guess he is staying in because his time there counts against whatever time he may be given at his next court day. He likely is getting good time as well, which further reduces the amount of time he needs to serve.

 

[deugirtni]

LE stated that BG participated in the crimes. They must have something more. Jmo.

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I'm not positive, but I believe the wording was that they *believe* that he at least participated. It only makes sense that they would believe that. They also said they cannot tell whether the voice and the video is of the same individual, because it is unknown to them. I think they are piecing a story together as best as they can with what they have and that leads them to think a certain way, however they have also said that nothing is off the table, which leaves it wide open. Like others have often said here, it seems that they don't know $h!t, which is very sad considering they have video and audio and whatever else they have. Since things seem to be rather dead-end-ish, I just threw out a potential alternative scenario for consideration by sleuthers.

 

[Burnt Toast]

This is so sad. Justice isn't served by keeping this man in jail. He should have been released on his own reconnaissance. He is no threat to anyone and the public isn't safer with him in jail. How terribly tragic that the only person to spend time in jail as a result of the investigation into the murders is the old man who owns the property upon which their bodies were found.

he is in jail because he violated conditions of his probation. I don't believe that he is the only one that ended up in jail. LE has said there has been multiple arrests since there investigation began.

 

[expatCanada]

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2017/03...ere-the-bodies-of-2-indiana-teens-were-found/

“The man is the photo is middle aged and white,” Sgt. Perrine said. “Mr. Logan is also a white male. At this point we can’t verify anything.”

I've been searching the media thread with no luck. Does anyone have the link for which LEO said (and I'm paraphrasing):


'BG is a middle aged white male and RL is a white male.'


I believe this was said in response to a MSM question comparing RL to BG.

TIA

 

[Jax49]

It was Perrine, the one who became emotional at the presser.

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2017/03...ere-the-bodies-of-2-indiana-teens-were-found/

Thanks. At least I remembered the car...

 

[Jethro4WS]

I'm new here. And a neophyte to sleuthing...

Is it unusual that LE didn't disclose the manner in which the girls died? Wouldn't it be helpful if the public knew if it were a stabbing or a shooting? A person might realize that their husband/boyfriend/uncle's favorite knife/gun is missing or has been cleaned...

As I recall, in the Missy Beaver's case, LE told the public she was bludgeoned during the first press conference... Thanks

It depends. Sometimes LE releases cause of death but more often than not they don't, at least not immediately. Specifically in the Missy Bevers case LE has never, and still refuses to, state the cause of death - as they consider that information stategic (to use their words in the 5/20/16 press conference).

 

[Bemused]

JMO...
I remember reading it not hearing it. I've been trying to find it for a couple days now.

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2017/03...ere-the-bodies-of-2-indiana-teens-were-found/

 

[WebSight]

Without finding it on Google maps, I cannot say with 100% certainty. I have heard it is about an 8 minute drive. I know I know, hearsay. I will get the map out when I am back to my PC (highjacking a coworker's PC for WS...yes!).

You can drive from one end of Delphi to the other in no time at all anyway. Remember, this town is not that big.

My .02

 

[Nanjack00]

When talking about whether RL had trash pick up. This picture is from when they were searching his property. I certainly would not risk my probation to go to the transfer station if I had trash pick up, even for recycling.

 

[RIP Meagan + Johnny]

It was Perrine, the one who became emotional at the presser.

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2017/03...ere-the-bodies-of-2-indiana-teens-were-found/

Thanks, Bemused! I edited this into my original post.
:tyou:

 

[apples12]

This is so sad. Justice isn't served by keeping this man in jail. He should have been released on his own reconnaissance. He is no threat to anyone and the public isn't safer with him in jail. How terribly tragic that the only person to spend time in jail as a result of the investigation into the murders is the old man who owns the property upon which their bodies were found.

BBM I think you mean recognizance.

 

[JLSChook]

http://www.jconline.com/story/news/...h-property-where-delphi-teens-found/99304450/

"Basically, we're just following up on some tips and interviews and leads that we've gotten," Riley said while blocking traffic on the county road east of Delphi. "We're trying to either clear him or see if he's more of a suspect than what we originally thought."

Maybe Riley didn't choose his words carefully but he did use the word suspect.

Did you read what he said yesterday?

A big red flag is raised to me when the security at RL's PV hearing was held:

"Logan was surrounded by law enforcement officers during his walk from a sheriff’s car to the elevator in the Carroll County Courthouse. Delphi Police Chief Steve Mullin held the elevator while Logan came in with two deputies and Carroll County Sheriff Tobe Leazenby, and a deputy watched over the railing from the second floor.

Outside the courtroom, Mullin, two deputies and Carroll County Sheriff’s Chief Deputy Mike Thomas guarded the inmate entrance to the courtroom. Inside the courtroom, the two deputies with Leazenby, as well as the sheriff himself, stayed with Logan throughout the hearing that lasted about a half-hour.

Several reporters from newspapers and television stations were on hand for the hearing. Leazenby said in a later interview that it was a fine line to decide how much security to have."

http://www.newsbug.info/monticello_...cle_f3efd096-18d6-11e7-88b9-f339d079eadc.html

If this was a mere probation violation hearing there would be no need for the security of this magnitude. And the security is directly tied to RL due to Leazenby's comment about "fine line." Has anyone found the interview Leazenby gave yesterday referred to in this article? I'll go sleuth. I am not on the RL is BG bus, but there is certainly more that RL knows, was involved in, or has connection with in these horrible murders for this amount of security IMO.

Red Flag? The Red Flag is that while anyone is in the custody of LE, they are responsible for their safety. Have you seen the threats on his life out there? There are tons of them!

The security has nothing to do with anything except they are responsible to keep this man (or anyone in their custody) safe from the lunatics out there with fire and pitchforks.

 

[expatCanada]

Can you link that?

From what I can see/link: https://public.courts.in.gov/mycase...yTTBNekF5TnpFME1EUXdPalV4T1RNMk1qY3lZekk9In19

[FONT=&quot]The court takes acceptance of the plea agreement under advisement and sets this matter for sentencing, subject to acceptance of the plea and plea agreement on April 10, 2017 at 11:00 am, at which time the defendant is ordered to appear. The Probation Department is ordered to prepare an updated presentence report. The Court sets bond for the above captioned cause in the sum of $5000 with 10% cash bond allowed. The defendant is remanded to the custody of the Sheriff of Carroll County. C:State,Probation,CCSD,Achey,RJO4/3/17

[/FONT]emphasis by me

I'm wondering if the media may be going off the journal entry on MyCase after his court hearing yesterday that states - Held without Bond::

04/03/2017
Hearing Journal Entry
The State of Indiana appears by Jerry Bean, Chief Deputy Prosecuting Attorney. The defendant appears in the custody of Sheriff and by counsel, Andrew Achey. The State of Indiana and the defendant file a written plea agreement. Admission Hearing is held on the Petition. The defendant admits the allegations of the Amended Petition for Revocation of Probation filed on March 16, 2017. The Court finds that the defendant violated the terms of his probation. Dispositional Hearing is set for April 10, 2017 at 11:00 am. The defendant is remanded to the custody of the Sheriff of Carroll County and held without bond.C:State,Probation,CCSD,Achey,RJO4/3/17
Judicial Officer: Fouts, Kurtis
Present: State of Indiana
Present: Logan, Ronald E
Present: Achey, Andrew A.
Hearing Date: 04/03/2017

 

[WVWoman]

Do you have a link to confirmation from LE he was seen by an officer? TIA

Be awhile off lunch break now ...was In The convo right after hearing yesterday


[emoji237]Always My Own Opinion[emoji4]

 

[CookieMonster21]

IMO it's because of the death threats he has received and they are REQUIRED to keep him safe in their custody.


[emoji237]Always My Own Opinion[emoji4]

I would think the same, but I cannot tell from the picture of RL being led into courtroom building if he is wearing a bullet proof vest? Would that not protect him also?


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[WVWoman]

I would think the same, but I cannot tell from the picture of RL being led into courtroom building if he is wearing a bullet prof best? Would that not protect him also?


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I see the same picture ..I couldn't tell one way or the other if he has one on


[emoji237]Always My Own Opinion[emoji4]

 

[desert-blue]

You wouldn't be able to see the bridge from the Transfer Station. Nor would RL be just cruising by. HTH?

Thank you for for this map - it really helps to visualize the lay of the land. One question, though - just for reference, is it possible to add a marker on this map showing where the girls were dropped off?

 

[JLSChook]

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2017/03...ere-the-bodies-of-2-indiana-teens-were-found/

“The man is the photo is middle aged and white,” Sgt. Perrine said. “Mr. Logan is also a white male. At this point we can’t verify anything.”

I'm pretty sure that 77 years old isn't 'middle aged'...If that's the case, I'm an infant. :woohoo:

 

[Novelist]

Be awhile off lunch break now ...was In The convo right after hearing yesterday


[emoji237]Always My Own Opinion[emoji4]

I will continue the frustration. Not because it's good but to show the many reports there are. IMO, a person close to RL, stated he was at the TS at the same time as the murders. Ugh. Who do we believe??

No link because it was FB. But RL's family has been vocal about this IMO

MOO and stuff

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