IN - Abigail Williams, 13, & Liberty German, 14, Delphi, 13 Feb 2017 #48

[Kissy]

Not if the 2nd person(s) were not on the bridge. One of my theories about the voice is that while Libby was filming BG on the bridge 80 ft away, the voice came from near or behind her, from someone closer to the phone. (It happens all the time we I am taking a video of my son playing baseball.) I think BG's role as we see him on the bridge was rounding them up, blocking their escape and that later he participated in murdering them. They only needed one person to go out on the bridge and force them off.

Which could have been the infamous unknown sleeve in the one pic.

 

[puppyraiser]

no, i don't think that is standard operating procedure. A deputy could do the job.

That's what I thought. So why is there so much media and news about RL and no other person in this case? The names of other people who had SW on their property have been kept out of the spotlight yet we are getting updates regarding RL weekly. If he had info and was talking with LE, I doubt he would have received the sentence he did yesterday. LE seems to be focusing on and pressuring him for a reason.

 

[Burnt Toast]

I do not think RL is BG but I am not ruling out he was aware of the crime before ppl knocked on his door. Maybe RL found evidence on the scene while roaming his property and freaked that he would be accused of the crime due to his record and disposed of stuff at the dump. If someone was innocent then I do not know why someone would want to cover but RL did lie about buying fish. I thought about this for awhile because RL's statement about the crime area being "pristine". Did RL visit the spot where the girls were found before the search began or was he just making a statement in what he saw? ......... JMO

we don't know that he lied about buying a fish. LE has never made a statement on it.

 

[Lilowlet]

why no bullet proof vest on him with death threats?

I thought it meant inmate threats

 

[Lilowlet]

Maybe RL was threatened at gunpoint by BG to take him in his truck to get the fish(alibi). Wouldn't you go ahead and do that at the risk of your life? And keep it a secret in case BG came back to target you? JMO

I get what you are saying. But if that be the case why would his lawyer suggest he keep quiet. I believe I read that here. If wrong correct me. Imo

 

[Burnt Toast]

That's what I thought. So why is there so much media and news about RL and no other person in this case? The names of other people who had SW on their property have been kept out of the spotlight yet we are getting updates regarding RL weekly. If he had info and was talking with LE, I doubt he would have received the sentence he did yesterday. LE seems to be focusing on and pressuring him for a reason.

why? because two dead bodies were found on his property and because he had the opportunity.

 

[Bemused]

IMO, death threats made against the prisoner make it more likely higher level LE would be there.

IMO, disagree in this case. Their stance was relaxed and I didn't see BPV. They'd also have more police officers facing outward scanning for threats.

 

[skibaboo]

Well, of course. That's how LE works in basically every murder investigation. They don't like to specifically clear anyone until they arrest the actual perpetrator.

I've said the same thing a gazillion times. It wasn't the Sheriff's words, it was his facial expression while saying those words. There's something else there, IMO.

What? I have no clue.

This case is gonna drive me to :drink: pretty soon. :gaah:

Yes, THIS^ Right there with you !

It has already driven me to drink.. although being teetotal I'm only back on the coffee :coffeews:

 

[TTF14]

Given RL's snippy/odd comment about the murders on the property, he either HAS to be the killer, OR he has zero knowledge of it whatsoever. If he's angry that someone committed a crime on his property that landed him in jail for a probation violation, he sounds angry enough by that odd statement to rat them out and collect the reward. Unless he's the killer of course. All IMO.

 

[Bemused]

Excellent question. I remember the sheriff saying he was trying to "not go overboard" (might not be his exact words). But they were concerned for RL's safety.

Leazenby also said there were only rumors and not specific threats.

 

[Mainemom76]

Excellent question. I remember the sheriff saying he was trying to "not go overboard" (might not be his exact words). But they were concerned for RL's safety.

All the more reason to clarify his involvement or lack thereof. IT must be the sw results that are holding this up. JMO

 

[ocgrad]

I do not think RL is BG but I am not ruling out he was aware of the crime before ppl knocked on his door. Maybe RL found evidence on the scene while roaming his property and freaked that he would be accused of the crime due to his record and disposed of stuff at the dump. If someone was innocent then I do not know why someone would want to cover but RL did lie about buying fish. I thought about this for awhile because RL's statement about the crime area being "pristine". Did RL visit the spot where the girls were found before the search began or was he just making a statement in what he saw? ......... JMO

He took his trash before the girls were dropped off. And we don't know, but he could have easily gone on to buy fish after that. LE indicating he lied about his alibi may have meant he left out the trip to the TS since he drove there himself. They never said he didn't go to Lafayette to buy fish. Its troubling that they have been so vague in all their statements about RL.

 

[WebSight]

Given RL's snippy/odd comment about the murders on the property, he either HAS to be the killer, OR he has zero knowledge of it whatsoever. If he's angry that someone committed a crime on his property that landed him in jail for a probation violation, he sounds angry enough by that odd statement to rat them out and collect the reward. Unless he's the killer of course. All IMO.

You bring up a really interesting point. While no one here can fathom those words, they might actually be very telling. I love this because it gives me something new to ponder. YAY!:thinking:

 

[No it's not]

Somewhere in these many threads there is a statement from LE that indicates there is more video. It said those who looked at it would see it when they closed their eyes to go to sleep, for the rest of their lives. moo

If someone has the link I'd appreciate it. TIA

Link only in cache/ Wayback machine available:

“Imagine what that must be like, it’s generally and very likely will be one of the last things these ladies and gentleman see for the rest of their lives before they go to sleep,” said Carter.

[ To view the link go to http://cachedview.com/ enter the link and choose archive.org Cache ]

www.wlfi.com/2017/02/22/delphi-teen-records-suspect-before-her-death-police-hope-it-leads-to-arrest/

 

[Lilowlet]

He took his trash before the girls were dropped off. And we don't know, but he could have easily gone on to buy fish after that. LE indicating he lied about his alibi may have meant he left out the trip to the TS since he drove there himself. They never said he didn't go to Lafayette to buy fish. Its troubling that they have been so vague in all their statements about RL.

I keep wondering if since he walks his property night and day sometimes if he saw it happen or saw the girls deceased before they were found, got worried about his own issues went home to collect his things and took it to the dump( or whatever it's called) and didn't tell anyone about it. Thus his alibi unstable as well as the possibility his footprints at the scene making it harder​ on LE
Just speculating IMO

 

[Bemused]

Meanwhile, relatives of the murdered teens visited the Indiana State Police’s operations center in Delphi on Wednesday, Slocum said.

http://nypost.com/2017/03/02/massiv...d-girls-generates-tons-of-tips-but-few-leads/

That was published March 2nd.

 

[No it's not]

Just wondering, is it normal to have higher ranking LE involved in a high profile murder case accompany transport/sentencing of a prisoner on much lesser charges which are 'unrelated to the murder case'?

If the sheriff had nothing else to do that morning and happened to be at the jail, I can see him doing it. But - they must have been aware, it would send some kind of a message.

All IMO

-Nin

 

[cluciano63]

Imo, either RL is BG, or knows nothing about the crimes. And I don't believe he is the blurry, unrecognizable image we have been shown, if only because that mustache of his would have shown up somehow. I still believe there was a single perp.

Also, the sheriff escorting him to court does not seem weird to me, especially if they know or believe he is NOT guilty in relation to the murders, as it would be a nightmare were RL to be shot and/or killed by some deranged person.

 

[Bemused]

If the sheriff had nothing else to do that morning and happened to be at the jail, I can see him doing it. But - they must have been aware, it would send some kind of a message.

All IMO

-Nin

Remember that Sheriff Leazenby escorted RL the week before to court as well which I also found telling, IMO.

 

[WebSight]

It takes me so long to find anything so by the time I am finished with this, someone else will have posted it! Oh well!

I took the quote from one of my previous posts but I cannot see the link, sorry.

“She did it. She did it, and one day I’m going to thank her,” said Carter.

But first, police need your help identifying the person or persons who did this to Libby and Abby. The recording was longer than what has been released.

Police won’t release anymore to protect the integrity of the investigation, but they’ve seen the video and likely won’t be able to stop thinking about it.

“Imagine what that must be like, it’s generally and very likely will be one of the last things these ladies and gentleman see for the rest of their lives before they go to sleep,” said Carter.