IN - Abigail Williams, 13, & Liberty German, 14, Delphi, 13 Feb 2017 #73

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  • #541
Huh? I haven’t posted ANY addresses, thank you very much . Bless your heart.

No, but I’d post their thoughts of him, good or bad.


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I didn't suggest you had. I asked a question and you answered.
 
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  • #543
Since he did construction here ( Zionsville) I’ve been asking all of my customers that are in that type of business if they knew him.

So far no go


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It made my day to see your post. I think what you're doing is great as it may very well only take one small piece of new info to blow this case wide open!
 
  • #544
Supposedly he DID do work here.. it was in an interview.
http://www.wlfi.com/story/36479071/daniel-nations



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Hi Scarlett!

I’m not familiar with the names of the counties and towns in Indiana and their proximity to Delphi in the article you linked, but my thoughts on the posts by you and BoP have taken me here...

IF DN turns out to be involved in the Abby/Libby case...

IF DN could be identified as being in or around Delphi ON February 13, it would show he had the opportunity.

IF DN could be identified as being in or around Delphi PRIOR to February 13, it would show he had some familiarity with the area and may have known about the MHB/trail system.

Since it has been published in MSM and mentioned multiple times in these threads that DN liked being in the woods, hiking, outdoors activities, it would be a logical train of thought to connect the dots that if he could be shown to have been in the area previously, and possibly had knowledge of the MHB and the trail system, even if he wasn’t working in the area in mid-February 2017, he could have traveled to Delphi to do some hiking, by driving a borrowed vehicle, by bus or by hitchhiking.

I’m still not convinced DN is BG, but I’m not ready to rule him out either. Finding information on how close he has been to Delphi and when he was there (near Delphi) would be helpful. AFAIK, DN is still unaccounted for on February 13,2017.
 
  • #545
Just wanted to say that I see on your profile that you have Chiari. I also have a Chiari Malformation. Had my second brain surgery last year. When I see someone else with it, I like to say "hey." :-)

Two surgeries! Yikes! Must be tethered cord release and opening up the skull abit? I can't think of the proper word, decompression of the skull. Stay strong and hopefully you have found some relief with the surgeries!
 
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Two surgeries! Yikes! Must be tethered cord release and opening up the skull abit? I can't think of the proper word, decompression of the skull. Stay strong and hopefully you have found some relief with the surgeries!

Nah, I don't have tethered cord. I have Vascular EDS, POTS, cranial cerival instability, mast cell activation disorder, a thoracic aneurysm, and rheumatoid arthritis (all concurrent with the Chiari) but I actually didn't get TCS, ha ha. I HAVE lost my kidney, spleen, gallbladder, uterus, and appendix to ruptures, unfortunately. Basically every organ I can live without, but both of my brain surgeries were for the Chiari; the first one didn't help the herniation.

We told my kids that Mommy was so smart that her brain wouldn't fit in her head. ;-)

Back on topic...

This will be the families' first Halloween without their daughters. I hate that for them. The "firsts" are always the hardest, which is why I think the first year is the roughest. Abby and Libby should be putting the finishing touches on their costumes tonight, maybe gearing up with excitement about an upcoming get-together at a friend's house. Chatting on the phone about what they're going to wear to school tomorrow. Creating Instagram posts with themselves all dressed up.

There's nothing left to say except that this whole thing sucks. Poor girls.
 
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I’m surprised Greeno called her out . He may have put the kaput on any future interviews .

The more I think about it , it was strange ( like Greeno said in interview #1) that SHE reached out to them after they sent the letter.

She said it was coincidental.. but now I’m not buying it ( nor do I think they do either) .


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  • #550
Her story changed AGAIN concerning his location Feb 13th. Which tells me she is hiding something... same thing about the ax.

But why... why say the voice could be his... and then lie about the date?

Why give so many different stories about the date?


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MOO to your question

She wants to stay out of jail
He'll talk thinking he can get out of jail

I sincerely don't think anyone but LE is going to glean anything pertinent from these two.
I do have some sympathy for KN because she appears to be soaking up the limelight and that's a shame.

Then again, LE has said they have nothing concrete on DN (paraphrasing the Sheriff's interview) so maybe they're glad for this distraction while they continue their search for the real killer. Let's hope so anyway.
 
  • #551
Her story changed AGAIN concerning his location Feb 13th. Which tells me she is hiding something... same thing about the ax.

But why... why say the voice could be his... and then lie about the date?

Why give so many different stories about the date?

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She is most likely - if she ever has to testify - going to be torn apart by the defense as not a credible witness. She is really stretching her NOT UNDER OATH stories. I am completely suspect of her motive(s) now, IMO
 
  • #552
She is most likely - if she ever has to testify - going to be torn apart by the defense as not a credible witness. She is really stretching her NOT UNDER OATH stories. I am completely suspect of her motive(s) now, IMO

And on the "down the hill" voice comparison....... umm, well, thats a tough one... No it isn't, it either sounds like him or not! I think I gave her too much credit in the IQ and honesty depts.


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  • #553
Another interview with KN, if is not allowed, please remove the post.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_BtpFDkNVk&feature=youtu.be

Creepy. She is so calm and collected to be answering questions of this nature.

ETA: the editing of this shorter video looks off, to me, especially when she says he was with her all night, unless he left while she was sleeping. It’s put together poorly, and in a tricky way, FWIW, since we all know this was a daytime crime.
 
  • #554
Hi Scarlett!

I’m not familiar with the names of the counties and towns in Indiana and their proximity to Delphi in the article you linked, but my thoughts on the posts by you and BoP have taken me here...

IF DN turns out to be involved in the Abby/Libby case...

IF DN could be identified as being in or around Delphi ON February 13, it would show he had the opportunity.

IF DN could be identified as being in or around Delphi PRIOR to February 13, it would show he had some familiarity with the area and may have known about the MHB/trail system.

Since it has been published in MSM and mentioned multiple times in these threads that DN liked being in the woods, hiking, outdoors activities, it would be a logical train of thought to connect the dots that if he could be shown to have been in the area previously, and possibly had knowledge of the MHB and the trail system, even if he wasn’t working in the area in mid-February 2017, he could have traveled to Delphi to do some hiking, by driving a borrowed vehicle, by bus or by hitchhiking.

I’m still not convinced DN is BG, but I’m not ready to rule him out either. Finding information on how close he has been to Delphi and when he was there (near Delphi) would be helpful. AFAIK, DN is still unaccounted for on February 13,2017.

When I looked at DN's arrest record from 2007 around the time he committed the crime that lead to him being an RSO, I noticed that most if not all of those incidents took place quite a distance from where he was living (near Camp LeJeune). I mapped the locations and it looked like they were all about an hour away. There weren't enough incidents to really call it a pattern, but it did make me wonder whether, if he were guilty, he would have picked Delphi precisely because he hadn't ever been there.
 
  • #555
Creepy. She is so calm and collected to be answering questions of this nature.

It does not even sound like Greeno is talking directly to her in that video. He sounds like his questions are recorded in a studio. How do we even know she is answering those questions? He could have created questions based on her reactions and it would have seemed like an actual interview. The 47 minute video at least seemed like a legit live discussion with her.

I just wish we had better, more respectable sources of info than Greeno and Stroup.
 
  • #556
It does not even sound like Greeno is talking directly to her in that video. He sounds like his questions are recorded in a studio. How do we even know she is answering those questions? He could have created questions based on her reactions and it would have seemed like an actual interview. The 47 minute video at least seemed like a legit live discussion with her.

I just wish we had better, more respectable sources of info than Greeno and Stroup.

Totally agree... the editing is very suspicious.
 
  • #557
I stand by my previous post, she's a scammer and untrustworthy.
She has her problems and it's just not cool, now everyone (generally speaking) is talking about KN and DN instead of the case.
Worse case missing any clue that could help grab the Suspect.
 
  • #558
[FONT="]Carroll County Sheriff Tobe [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#444444][FONT="]Leazenby[/FONT][FONT="] had been in Colorado in September for training and presented information about the case, but he doesn’t know whether that led to the tip.

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http://www.newsbug.info/monticello_herald_journal/interviews-with-colorado-suspect-inconclusive-in-delphi-murders/article_e3174aac-a84f-11e7-b2a9-8beac8713755.html

This is important to me, in looking at the case, and thinking about why DN was ever brought up as a POI for Abby and Libby's murders in the first place. Not sure if it’s worthy of being put in the media thread, but it is interesting.
 
  • #559
I'm not going to pretend to be an expert on body language and deception.

But, I will suggest familiarizing yourself with "neuro linguistic programming eye cues." Google it.

Then go back and review both interviews with KN. I don't have the patience at this point. But, she's a great subject as it relates to neuro linguistics and deception. Someone just needs to take the time to figure it all out. In my opinion, based on my training and experience, she's a good subject for detecting deception via this method.

I'm pretty sure she's being deceptive to either protect the integrity of the investigation and or protect DN.

Cheers!
 
  • #560
the police did say the voice (down the hill) wasn't necessarily BG..
Implying / meaning there might have been more than one assailant..
could it have been a woman?.. a lookout maybe if not a full on participant?
I do recall a witness saying they saw a "couple" on the trail.
That couple never came forward that I read.
 
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