IN - Abigail Williams, 13, & Liberty German, 14, Delphi, 13 Feb 2017 #75

[sumzero]

well ..the media has gone quiet... they have calmed down for some reason..and not one agency has come out and put out a segment on the girls families and the renewed search for a killer.

I say always watch the media..they have contacts, they get told things, some of them actually have integrity and won't leak
secrets that are shared.

The media also, as a rule, go silent when a case grows cold. No new developments = nothing to report.

 

[margarita25]

(No news? Booooooooooo)

 

[Shiressleuth]

Where is the credible evidence that BG is a homeless ex-military sex offender drug addict with a southern accent who killed two girls with a gun and/or hatchet?

I was talking about DN but it was discussed many times about BG being possibly ex mil due to the authoritarian "down the hill" order. The other possibilities have also been discussed - gun outline in BG pocket, fannypack/hatchet holder, CaCo checking RSO's very early on, the bridge being a drugs haunt, etc. It all fits IMO.

 

[Shiressleuth]

I’m with you. There is absolutely no reason to believe BG is dead. What reason would there be for LE to keep that private from the family and the public? It is absurd.


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Yes, and for LE to know BG was dead, they would first need to know who BG actually was.

 

[BIC]

How do we know BG has a limp? Did a witness say something about a limp. As much as I try to see BG limp, it is pretty hard since all we have is a still shot taken from a video. Did I miss something?


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[minazoe]

KN said he has a limp and one leg is shorter than the other..MOO

 

[Shiressleuth]

How do we know BG has a limp? Did a witness say something about a limp. As much as I try to see BG limp, it is pretty hard since all we have is a still shot taken from a video. Did I miss something?


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I posted a link to the moving stills a couple of days ago where the 3 stills were put in sequence. I'll find it and repost it for you to look at.

 

[Justice101]

Sorry to see no new news here. Just conjecture. Here's hoping there is a break in this case SOON. Fingers crossed here.

 

[Shiressleuth]

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...erty-German-14-Delphi&p=13350674#post13350674

Just posting a link to the image thread to show the moving shots of BG that our image expert put together. Again it is useful to compare I think.

:bump:

Bumping for Bic and anyone who wants to see BG limp.

Eta this takes you to the right page then jusr scroll down a couple of posts till you get to the post by our image expert Michael Gartley. He has posted the 3 BG images into a moving sequence. See what you think. Look at the discussion also in the image thread where a limp was discussed IIRC. Remember, LE won't need to do this - they have the video of BG walking.

 

[Niner]

Here are DN's charges
El Paso County: charged with Class 5 Felony Menacing, Class 3 Endangerment & Reckless
Endangerment, Trespassing, attempted assault, criminal mischief & failing to register as a sex offender in El Paso County.

Teller County: charged being a felon having weapons illegally; also allegedly found in possession a hatchet & .22 caliber rifle;

so the plea deal (maybe) is (preliminary hearing on) charges of menacing and first-degree trespassing, both felonies, may be a sign that a plea deal is in the works on those charges.

Thought a "Plea Hearing" was also scheduled today for Teller County charges also. Nothing about those?

TIA!

 

[Niner]

Okay - here's what I got:

Thursday, December 7th:
*Hearing @ 11am MT for Teller County ONLY! – CO – Daniel James Nations (31) – charged with being a felon having weapons illegally; also allegedly found in possession of a hatchet & .22 caliber rifle; additional charges will likely be filed (Tim Watkins murder?). Combined bonds $15K. Last hearing was 11/6.
In El Paso County arrested & charged with Class 5 Felony Menacing, Class 3 Felony Endangerment & Reckless Endangerment, Trespassing, attempted assault, criminal mischief & failing to register as a sex offender in El Paso County. Held on $6.8K bond; next hearing on menacing charges was Nov. 29th. Hearing for El Paso charges on Dec. 15th for "maybe" a plea deal. "Maybe" a POI in Abby & Libby’s case in IND.

*Permanent Restraining Order Hearing - 3pm MT for Teller County – CO – Daniel James Nations (31) – Hearing re children. Hearing was moved to today from 11/9, KN was no show

and on:

Friday, December 15th:
*Disposition Hearing @ 10am MT - for El Paso County – CO – Daniel James Nations (31) – arrested (9/25) & charged with Class 5 Felony Menacing, Class 3 Endangerment & Reckless Endangerment, Trespassing, attempted assault, criminal mischief & failing to register as a sex offender in El Paso County. Held on $6.8K bond Daniel J. Nations' decision to forgo a preliminary hearing (11/29) on charges of menacing and first-degree trespassing, both felonies, may be a sign that a plea deal is in the works on those charges. He remains jailed in El Paso County, records show. He is due to return to court Dec. 15 for an arraignment, at which time a possible plea deal could be announced.

and

*Disposition Hearing @ 10am MT - for Teller County charged being a felon having weapons illegally; also allegedly found in possession a hatchet & .22 caliber rifle; Hearings were on 11/2 (Disposition Hearing) & 11/6 (Prelim Hearing); additional charges will likely be filed. Combined bonds $15K. "Maybe" a POI in Abby & Libby’s case in IND.
Plus in Indiana these are 3 separate cases. Warrant/Writ issued 5/25/17 (11/16/16) Marion County: Drug possession, paraphernalia, and driving without a license. Warrant/Writ issued 6/5/2017 & 10/18/17 (4/25/17) Bartholomew Co. (Greenwood City Court): Driving without a license and possession of drug paraphernalia. Warrant/Writ issued 9/29/17 (6/1/17) Johnson Co: Failure to register as a sex offender. All now have outstanding warrants.


Whew!

 

[Shiressleuth]

Here are DN's charges
El Paso County: charged with Class 5 Felony Menacing, Class 3 Endangerment & Reckless
Endangerment, Trespassing, attempted assault, criminal mischief & failing to register as a sex offender in El Paso County.

Teller County: charged being a felon having weapons illegally; also allegedly found in possession a hatchet & .22 caliber rifle;

so the plea deal (maybe) is (preliminary hearing on) charges of menacing and first-degree trespassing, both felonies, may be a sign that a plea deal is in the works on those charges.

Thought a "Plea Hearing" was also scheduled today for Teller County charges also. Nothing about those?

TIA!

I think the TeCo charges were just a preliminary and disposition hearing weren't they? So as he waived the ElPa plea hearing I guess he didn't show for the others?

 

[Shiressleuth]

Yes, and where did we hear/read/learn BG has a limp?

Have you read the image discussion thread?

 

[kizzykat]

Okay - here's what I got:

Thursday, December 7th:
*Hearing @ 11am MT for Teller County ONLY! – CO – Daniel James Nations (31) – charged with being a felon having weapons illegally; also allegedly found in possession of a hatchet & .22 caliber rifle; additional charges will likely be filed (Tim Watkins murder?). Combined bonds $15K. Last hearing was 11/6.
In El Paso County arrested & charged with Class 5 Felony Menacing, Class 3 Felony Endangerment & Reckless Endangerment, Trespassing, attempted assault, criminal mischief & failing to register as a sex offender in El Paso County. Held on $6.8K bond; next hearing on menacing charges was Nov. 29th. Hearing for El Paso charges on Dec. 15th for "maybe" a plea deal. "Maybe" a POI in Abby & Libby’s case in IND.

*Permanent Restraining Order Hearing - 3pm MT for Teller County – CO – Daniel James Nations (31) – Hearing re children. Hearing was moved to today from 11/9, KN was no show

and on:

Friday, December 15th:
*Disposition Hearing @ 10am MT - for El Paso County – CO – Daniel James Nations (31) – arrested (9/25) & charged with Class 5 Felony Menacing, Class 3 Endangerment & Reckless Endangerment, Trespassing, attempted assault, criminal mischief & failing to register as a sex offender in El Paso County. Held on $6.8K bond Daniel J. Nations' decision to forgo a preliminary hearing (11/29) on charges of menacing and first-degree trespassing, both felonies, may be a sign that a plea deal is in the works on those charges. He remains jailed in El Paso County, records show. He is due to return to court Dec. 15 for an arraignment, at which time a possible plea deal could be announced.

and

*Disposition Hearing @ 10am MT - for Teller County charged being a felon having weapons illegally; also allegedly found in possession a hatchet & .22 caliber rifle; Hearings were on 11/2 (Disposition Hearing) & 11/6 (Prelim Hearing); additional charges will likely be filed. Combined bonds $15K. "Maybe" a POI in Abby & Libby’s case in IND.
Plus in Indiana these are 3 separate cases. Warrant/Writ issued 5/25/17 (11/16/16) Marion County: Drug possession, paraphernalia, and driving without a license. Warrant/Writ issued 6/5/2017 & 10/18/17 (4/25/17) Bartholomew Co. (Greenwood City Court): Driving without a license and possession of drug paraphernalia. Warrant/Writ issued 9/29/17 (6/1/17) Johnson Co: Failure to register as a sex offender. All now have outstanding warrants.


Whew!

BBM
KN was a NO SHOW again???
Where did you find that, Niner?
And thank you for gathering all that info and posting it, "Whew!" indeed!

 

[foxbluff]

Yes, and for LE to know BG was dead, they would first need to know who BG actually was.

:yourock:

 

[Mamamerced]

I posted a link to the moving stills a couple of days ago where the 3 stills were put in sequence. I'll find it and repost it for you to look at.

Do we know if the 3 stills came from sequentialy shot clip or were 3 separate stills put in a 123 order. If the latter, the limp could just be a break in the natural film order and not a true physical limp.
No, I haven't followed the image discussion thread.....no time, unfortunately.

 

[Shiressleuth]

BBM
KN was a NO SHOW again???
Where did you find that, Niner?
And thank you for gathering all that info and posting it, "Whew!" indeed!

So neither of them went to court at all yesterday? Is that right?

 

[BIC]

I posted a link to the moving stills a couple of days ago where the 3 stills were put in sequence. I'll find it and repost it for you to look at.

I’ve already seen that. There is absolutely no way to tell if he has a limp by putting stills in sequence, especially when he is dodging gaping gaps on an old bridge.


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[BIC]

KN said he has a limp and one leg is shorter than the other..MOO

Something else I must have missed, now KN knows BG has a limp?


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[Daey34]

Where did you get that KN was a no show?

Okay - here's what I got:

Thursday, December 7th:
*Hearing @ 11am MT for Teller County ONLY! – CO – Daniel James Nations (31) – charged with being a felon having weapons illegally; also allegedly found in possession of a hatchet & .22 caliber rifle; additional charges will likely be filed (Tim Watkins murder?). Combined bonds $15K. Last hearing was 11/6.
In El Paso County arrested & charged with Class 5 Felony Menacing, Class 3 Felony Endangerment & Reckless Endangerment, Trespassing, attempted assault, criminal mischief & failing to register as a sex offender in El Paso County. Held on $6.8K bond; next hearing on menacing charges was Nov. 29th. Hearing for El Paso charges on Dec. 15th for "maybe" a plea deal. "Maybe" a POI in Abby & Libby’s case in IND.

*Permanent Restraining Order Hearing - 3pm MT for Teller County – CO – Daniel James Nations (31) – Hearing re children. Hearing was moved to today from 11/9, KN was no show

and on:

Friday, December 15th:
*Disposition Hearing @ 10am MT - for El Paso County – CO – Daniel James Nations (31) – arrested (9/25) & charged with Class 5 Felony Menacing, Class 3 Endangerment & Reckless Endangerment, Trespassing, attempted assault, criminal mischief & failing to register as a sex offender in El Paso County. Held on $6.8K bond Daniel J. Nations' decision to forgo a preliminary hearing (11/29) on charges of menacing and first-degree trespassing, both felonies, may be a sign that a plea deal is in the works on those charges. He remains jailed in El Paso County, records show. He is due to return to court Dec. 15 for an arraignment, at which time a possible plea deal could be announced.

and

*Disposition Hearing @ 10am MT - for Teller County charged being a felon having weapons illegally; also allegedly found in possession a hatchet & .22 caliber rifle; Hearings were on 11/2 (Disposition Hearing) & 11/6 (Prelim Hearing); additional charges will likely be filed. Combined bonds $15K. "Maybe" a POI in Abby & Libby’s case in IND.
Plus in Indiana these are 3 separate cases. Warrant/Writ issued 5/25/17 (11/16/16) Marion County: Drug possession, paraphernalia, and driving without a license. Warrant/Writ issued 6/5/2017 & 10/18/17 (4/25/17) Bartholomew Co. (Greenwood City Court): Driving without a license and possession of drug paraphernalia. Warrant/Writ issued 9/29/17 (6/1/17) Johnson Co: Failure to register as a sex offender. All now have outstanding warrants.


Whew!