IN - Abigail Williams, 13, & Liberty German, 14, Delphi, 13 Feb 2017 #75

[emptybottles]

This is in reference to DN's Nov. 29th Court Date.

I found reporter Benzel's retweet of Nov. 22nd interesting. I'm unable to view/follow the conversation in order to see if tweet could be related to TW or DN.

Can anyone shed light on this? tia

Related to neither.

 

[foxbluff]

I could read it from the link and it is referring to a "death investigation" but it is not explained further that I can see.

Ty Shire. I was beginning to think I was writing in invisible ink again...lol.

I had seen the words "death investigation" and "Palmer parking lot" and immediately thought of TW's case.

I thought perhaps someone, on Nov. 22nd, had found another piece of evidence regarding TW's murder. And, if so, then I was hopeful that that piece of evidence somehow led to "plea bargain" language coming out after the DN's Nov. 29th court date.

I guess it was wishful thinking on my part...

ETA: Just saw emptybottles' reply, but am posting this anyway...

 

[foxbluff]

Related to neither.

Ty, emptybottles, even though it's not the answer I wanted to hear.

So, did yet another murder take place in that area or did someone die of natural causes?

 

[Daey34]

Palmer Park is in Colorado Springs, in a heavily trafficked area. It's about a 30 min drive from where TW was found. Unrelated unfortunately.

Ty, emptybottles, even though it's not the answer I wanted to hear.

So, did yet another murder take place in that area or did someone die of natural causes?

 

[Shiressleuth]

Ty, emptybottles, even though it's not the answer I wanted to hear.

So, did yet another murder take place in that area or did someone die of natural causes?

Yes it was a death. But not apparently suspicious. If you google Lt Black, Palmer Park, 22 Nov death, the full gazette article comes up. I couldn't do a link for some reason. Body was decomposed.

 

[eastcoasterinco]

Does anyone know where the sketch of BG that was released came from? Was it a DNA Phenotype sketch or a witness sketch or just a sketch based on the video footage?

It was reported to have come from new witness statements. Hard to say for sure though, as it seems very detailed. Many here have speculated that it had come from DNA phenotyping (possible IMO) or created from a photo of a POI or DN (seems like a stretch to me).

JMO


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[Ember123]

It is amazing I really hope they do it on the documentary I am watching about the Zodiac killer as they believe they have a sample of his blood.

Hello Greg! O/T but Where/ How do you watch this new Zodiac? I cut the cord with cable few months ago, have a Roku, watch lots of good documentaries, news, etc (live and not) on youtube via nooktablet or by casting from phone/tablet via roku onto my tv.. BUT.. Ì BARELY KNOW HOW TO DO ALL THIS! SERIOUSLY! LOL!!! If you can tell me how you watch it maybe I can figure out how to watch it too.

PS. SOME of Jim Wagoners stuff on youtube is pretty good including some Delphi-related. Someone here mentioned him earlier as I recall.

 

[R Becker]

Its my opinion that maybe the reason they have said that his eyes are not blue is because the DNA profile ruled them out.

 

[ezrah]

Ty, emptybottles, even though it's not the answer I wanted to hear.

So, did yet another murder take place in that area or did someone die of natural causes?

Link for you. http://www.krdo.com/news/colorado-s...-park-maizeland-in-colorado-springs/660782668


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[gregjrichards]

Hello Greg! O/T but Where/ How do you watch this new Zodiac? I cut the cord with cable few months ago, have a Roku, watch lots of good documentaries, news, etc (live and not) on youtube via nooktablet or by casting from phone/tablet via roku onto my tv.. BUT.. Ì BARELY KNOW HOW TO DO ALL THIS! SERIOUSLY! LOL!!! If you can tell me how you watch it maybe I can figure out how to watch it too.

PS. SOME of Jim Wagoners stuff on youtube is pretty good including some Delphi-related. Someone here mentioned him earlier as I recall.

Off topic sorry

Hi thank you for your post. The new Zodiac series is on the History channel here on Satelite/cable here in the U.K. I understand from another websleuths member that it is being shown in the States but you are a couple of episodes ahead. It is pretty fascinating viewing.

The series is called The Hunt For The Zodiac Killer.

“The most notorious serial killer in living memory may finally be unmasked thanks to modern-day technology and clever detective work.

Investigators are now planning to use DNA found at one of the Zodiac Killer's suspected crime scenes to reveal the murderer's true face.

'It's probably the greatest American unsolved serial killing case,' cold case detective Ken Mains told Fox News. 'I'm very confident it can be solved.'

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...al-Zodiac-Killers-identity.html#ixzz50QsMIYmn

 

[Shiressleuth]

Its my opinion that maybe the reason they have said that his eyes are not blue is because the DNA profile ruled them out.

And if that is right (that his eyes are not blue) that could well be why RL was ruled out earlier in the summer. They were working on the sketch for a while before they issued it in July.

 

[Daey34]

I also agree own that theory.

Skip to page 4 and see how DNA predicts eye color based on confidence percentages and even down to the wording on this chart...

https://www.promega.com/-/media/fil...dentity/ishi-26-oral-abstracts/19-greytak.pdf

Its my opinion that maybe the reason they have said that his eyes are not blue is because the DNA profile ruled them out.

 

[kizzykat]

OT Re: the Zodiac series on History Channel is also available On Demand as well as via their website if you'd like to watch from the beginning & catch up.
http://www.history.com/shows/the-hunt-for-the-zodiac-killer

 

[Rott Mom]

Really, really sad...this thread is losing momentum.
I guess we can't help to solve these murders w/out an update from LE.
Thanks to all that are dedicated to Abby and Libby.

 

[kkdj]

Really, really sad...this thread is losing momentum.
I guess we can't help to solve these murders w/out an update from LE.
Thanks to all that are dedicated to Abby and Libby.

I keep checking for updates of any nature. I do feel they will be coming, just not sure how soon.

 

[crhedBngr]

I keep checking for updates of any nature. I do feel they will be coming, just not sure how soon.

Ditto this. Sure is frustrating, though!

:gaah::tantrum::maddening:

 

[LadyL]

:welcome6::welcome6:

Its my opinion that maybe the reason they have said that his eyes are not blue is because the DNA profile ruled them out.

 

[gregjrichards]

Really, really sad...this thread is losing momentum.
I guess we can't help to solve these murders w/out an update from LE.
Thanks to all that are dedicated to Abby and Libby.

I agree it’s difficult to discuss the case with no developments but we all still care greatly about the case being solved. I will be interested to see if we get any new info from the Dr Phil show on Friday and what if anything is said about DN. Please post anyone if you manage to catch the show when it airs.

 

[Shiressleuth]

I agree it’s difficult to discuss the case with no developments but we all still care greatly about the case being solved. I will be interested to see if we get any new info from the Dr Phil show on Friday and what if anything is said about DN. Please post anyone if you manage to catch the show when it airs.

He is still my main POI till I hear an update from LE either excluding or announcing he is the suspect. If they say nothing then maybe they don't want to jeopardise anything going on in Co for now, which I can also understand. JMO.

 

[IceIce9]

This is mostly off topic, but with all the discussion regarding homelessness on this thread I wanted to mention a situation I came upon.

Yesterday I parked in a lot at 3:30 pm. This parking lot serves several restaurants. Very few cars in the parking lot because it was between lunch and dinner and two of the restaurants were closed until dinner.

I grabbed a spot right in front of the restaurant I was headed for. As soon as I parked I noticed that the car I had parked beside was a very battered old Chevy with plastic duct taped over the missing glass in the two windows on my side. The car was running.

I could see that the back seat was full of blankets and clothing. I had parked to the right of the Chevy so before I got out of my car I noticed the woman in the passenger seat. The door was halfway open and she was using the side mirror to look into while cutting her hair with a pair of scissors. She was very thin and pale.

As I got out of my car and walked past I observed two young boys, maybe 4 and 5 years old, standing in front of her open door. They were very thin and pale also, and dressed in short sleeve shirts and pants. No jacket or sweater, and it is very cold in Indianapolis.

I was shocked and I stopped for a second, wanting to say something to the woman but then a man I hadn’t noticed before in the driver’s seat looked at me with a mean, almost menacing look that said in no uncertain terms “mind your own business.” So I kept walking.

When I came out of the restaurant the car was still there and this time the boys were standing on the man’s side of the car, and his door was open. The car was still running and the boys were standing as close to the car as possible, obviously cold. He watched me as I got in my car and drove away.

Now in Indy we are used to the “Homeless: will work for food” sign scams as they have been well reported on in local newspapers and on the news. But this was a very obvious case of a family living in a car. I would have loved to bring them all food out of one of the restaurants, or spoken to them about a homeless shelter for families, but the man scared me away. 😞 😞 😞