IN - Abigail Williams, 13, & Liberty German, 14, Delphi, 13 Feb 2017 #82

[No it's not]

If Abby was indeed wearing the same (at least the blouse) clothing during GPC's, as well as on the fatal Monday, could it therefore be, that BG either stalked her from some point on (leading him to Libby's house eventually) or did he spot her at the hotel and or park and recognized here again on Monday, the day of the murder?

I like to know, which hotel the picture with the glove was taken at (if it was taken on the hotel premises).

Any locals recognizing the parking lot by any chance? Thanks!

-Nin

 

[mtnlites]

I'm not seeing the "blacked" out hair piece on the bridge picture. Am I just missing it?

I'm not seeing it either.

 

[Try2solve]

And even then, LE can and does make false statements to the public if it suits them, so.......


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Thats what I was thinking right after I typed it. LOL Who's lies are we to believe?

 

[Jerrod]

I'm not seeing the "blacked" out hair piece on the bridge picture. Am I just missing it?

It's more apparent on a hi-res computer monitor. Otherwise, it appears to be just a shadow. (Hard to really tell):

 

[Try2solve]

Interestingly Abby is wearing the same blouse/shirt and on the bridge, as she was wearing when GPC was visiting, took her shopping etc..

When GBC said he visited the "weekend before the murder", that is the weekend of the 11/12, not the weekend of the 4/5. Abby stayed at Libby's house on the night of Sun to Mon, as had been discussed before. I am wondering, if GPC possibly took her shopping on Saturday, the 11th. She may be wearing the same outfit (blouse and jeans) as she was wearing on Monday, 2/13, the day of the murder.

Credit 6ABC, marker 1:45ff:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yGFMnz0zUA&app=desktop

The picture of Abby with the glove may have been taken in the hotel parking lot. I checked Riley Park (if that is where they went) and they would not have played in the park parking lot, but on the grass IMO. You can see some kind of a vehicle to the left of Abby in the full 6ABC video and possibly a transformer box (?). More of a hotel parking lot setting, plus I was unable to locate such box in Riley Park (again, if that's where they went).

ALL IMO

-Nin

Source:
6ABC on YT

Impressive!

 

[mtnlites]

It's more apparent on a hi-res computer monitor. Otherwise, it appears to be just a shadow:

Hmm... I'm still just seeing a shadow. What would the purpose be for blacking it out?

 

[TheVisual]

I'm not seeing it either.

Maybe the supposed blacked out hairpiece isn't blacked out at all. Maybe it was missing at the crime scene and was taken as a trophy.

 

[scadagirl28]

Did anybody ever determine what is in his left hand ? Looks possibly like a fishing pole ?? Also did Gray or anyone say what is that pixels mess on his thigh ?

 

[mtnlites]

Maybe the supposed blacked out hairpiece isn't blacked out at all. Maybe it was missing at the crime scene and was taken as a trophy.

But the picture of her taken on the bridge was made before their murders, so shouldn't we able to see it there? I can see what people are pointing to in that image, but it doesn't look like any photo manipulation to me-it just looks like the shadow made by her hair piled atop her head.

 

[carbuff]

There's a similar shadow in the parking lot photo. I think the high-resolution picture exaggerates the darkness so it looks like it's blacked out.



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[No it's not]

If Abby was indeed wearing the same (at least the blouse) clothing during GPC's, as well as on the fatal Monday, could it therefore be, that BG either stalked her from some point on (leading him to Libby's house eventually) or did he spot her at the hotel and or park and recognized here again on Monday, the day of the murder?

I like to know, which hotel the picture with the glove was taken at (if it was taken on the hotel premises).

Any locals recognizing the parking lot by any chance? Thanks!

-Nin

The picture of a younger Abby next to the car was IMO taken at this hotel (Comfort Inn) in Lafayette. Notice the light brick column and the decorative rail:

Pic No 28:

https://www.hotelplanner.com/Hotels...n-Lafayette-4701-Meijer-Court-47905#HotelName

However, IMO this is not the location of where the pic of Abby and the glove was taken. No green box and no row of trees.

-Nin

 

[Try2solve]

Speaking of LE blacking things out, I think LE made BGs right foot in the first image super fuzzy because it turns in too much. I think LE doesnt want handicapped people harassed.JMO

 

[Ember123]

Okay, a question: Occas when I watch a YouTube vid comments are easy to see beneath the vid display. Most often, however, I cannot find them! Is there a particular way to open up the comments field that I am missing?

Another question for DeDee- R u talking Vanguard the restaurant or ??? Pls shed more light on what you are alluding to re: White Excav & VanGd.
I don't get it Sorry.

Also- What can we do to show our support of the Delphi LE (I so feel for them!)

And- Anyone hired a PI in this case? A PI might make more progress!

I have become so frustrated here. First I think This, then it seems That. So many random and at times contradictory seeming details. Hardly know WHAT to think anymore. Very disheartening.

 

[Try2solve]

Okay, a question: Occas when I watch a YouTube vid comments are easy to see beneath the vid display. Most often, however, I cannot find them! Is there a particular way to open up the comments field that I am missing?

Another question for DeDee- R u talking Vanguard the restaurant or ??? Pls shed more light on what you are alluding to re: White Excav & VanGd.
I don't get it Sorry.

Also- What can we do to show our support of the Delphi LE (I so feel for them!)

And- Anyone hired a PI in this case? A PI might make more progress!

I have become so frustrated here. First I think This, then it seems That. So many random and at times contradictory seeming details. Hardly know WHAT to think anymore. Very disheartening.

Total speculation, just a feeling, but any day I feel like this case is going to get blown wide open!

 

[Bird of Paradise]

Speaking of LE blacking things out, I think LE made BGs right foot in the first image super fuzzy because it turns in too much. I think LE doesnt want handicapped people harassed.JMO

I am confident LE did not black out anything in the picture.

The image (as has been mentioned prior) is from a split second or three capture of BG on video. All the while Libby's hand was moving while holding the phone.

If anyone hasn't yet visited the image thread for this case, I highly suggest viewing as we had a fantastic image expert and others who opined to point out precisely what caused a lot of those blurs.

 

[Bird of Paradise]

Okay, a question: Occas when I watch a YouTube vid comments are easy to see beneath the vid display. Most often, however, I cannot find them! Is there a particular way to open up the comments field that I am missing?

Another question for DeDee- R u talking Vanguard the restaurant or ??? Pls shed more light on what you are alluding to re: White Excav & VanGd.
I don't get it Sorry.

Also- What can we do to show our support of the Delphi LE (I so feel for them!)

And- Anyone hired a PI in this case? A PI might make more progress!

I have become so frustrated here. First I think This, then it seems That. So many random and at times contradictory seeming details. Hardly know WHAT to think anymore. Very disheartening.

Sometimes comments are disabled by the video poster so there is nothing to see.

If you have a facebook account, like and follow the Delphi PD page. Giving them props in the commets section is always a nice thing to do. They are also very nice about responding to messages as I have asked them on occassion to verify something that was said.

 

[Ember123]

http://m.carrollcountycomet.com/news/2018-01-24/Public_Records/Police_Calls.html#.WoqXNJGnzJt

Carroll County Comet Police arrests January 2018.

Hi SS- I looked this over. Was there something in particular here that caught your eye? (Greatly admire your sleuthing skills and culling of info, especially when you look back, finding things others are only vaguely recalling.) What do you see here?

 

[Deleted member 196796]

Could robbery have also been an initial motive? Items to pawn like jewellery for instance, cash etc. Then the robbery went wrong. Was one of the girls carrying/wearing a backpack?

I'm not sure what items of value to pawn two young girls would have in their possession. And then why the tromp through the woods just for a backpack?

 

[Deleted member 196796]

But the picture of her taken on the bridge was made before their murders, so shouldn't we able to see it there? I can see what people are pointing to in that image, but it doesn't look like any photo manipulation to me-it just looks like the shadow made by her hair piled atop her head.

IMO Adobe blur and smudge tool. There is another photo (same pic) out there untouched.

 

[Try2solve]

I am confident LE did not black out anything in the picture.

The image (as has been mentioned prior) is from a split second or three capture of BG on video. All the while Libby's hand was moving while holding the phone.

If anyone hasn't yet visited the image thread for this case, I highly suggest viewing as we had a fantastic image expert and others who opined to point out precisely what caused a lot of those blurs.

Time will tell.