IN - Abigail Williams & Liberty German, Delphi, Media, Maps, Timelines NO DISCUSSION #2

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Posting this from wrtv for those of us who couldn't keep up. I can’t quite figure out why the “power on/off log” wasn’t read prior to being reset in 2027.

“The digital records show Brian Bunner, a digital forensic expert with Indiana State Police, rebooted the phone on February 15, 2017, as part of the police investigation.

Cecil testified that from 2019 to 2024, there continued to be new updates of software and programs on the phone, so they attempted to pull more data from it. The phone was reprocessed. Cecil said that when Bunner plugged the phone in to charge, it added some small amount of data, but it did not change any information.

Cecil said from the state that when Bunner shut the phone down on February15, 2027, it would have reset the power on/off log, which prompted the defense to ask, "We will never know exactly when the phone powered off?"

Cecil agreed.

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When the attorneys were finished questioning Cecil, the jury asked 16 questions.
Some of them focused on the reports generated from the data pulled from the phones. Another asked about a discrepancy between when SMS messages and iMessage were received on Libby German's phone. Cecil said he didn't know why that happened. He also said he had no knowledge of an AT&T outage on February 13th or February 14th.“
 
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DELPHI DAY 5 QUICK MORNING NOTES
@FOX59

Pathologist Roland Kohr currently on the stand

He did the autopsies and said both died from deep slash wounds across their throats

No evidence of sexual trauma to Abby (that question was not asked of Libby yet when we got our notes, but pathologist could not testify as to whether or not she was touched sexually

Before the pathologist, Sarah Carbaugh testified

She’s been the strongest witness of Bridge Guy so far

She says she saw BG down CR 300N by the cemetery at about 4pm in the afternoon as she was driving past
Says he was hunched over and plodding with hands in pocket and head down… there was no eye contact
Says BG was muddy and bloody on his clothes
Says blood was on lower legs, feet and ankles
Says rest of him was muddy as if he had fallen down a hill or in a muddy creek

At no point does she say or was she asked if Bridge Guy was Richard Allen in her opinion

She had more difficulty on cross, becoming combative with defense attorneys

Defense asked why she didn’t mention blood in her past statements to law enforcement. She said she did but they did not write it down

She also says it was in her videotaped testimony but that videotape was lost when the DVR was recorded over



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@KylaBRussell

#UPDATE: When asked if any of Richard Allen’s 23 electronic devices seized in Nov. 2022 connected him to Abby and Libby, a prosecution’s witness said no.Chris Cecil is the Commander of the Indiana Internet Crimes Against Children Task Force. He said nothing linked Allen, other than having searched info about the case. The prosecution pointed out that Allen had a different phone in 2017 not included in the seize.



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#UPDATE: Updates from the afternoon of day 5 in the #Delphi double murder trial.

- The state called Christopher Cecil, commander of the Indiana Internet Crimes Against Children Task Force. He’s spearheaded two reports on the activity of Libby German’s cell phone.
- The phone was being used by both girls. We saw a breakdown of all the apps that not only had Libby’s logins, but Abby’s too.
- The phone was last unlocked around 2:07 p.m. and then the Bridge Guy video is taken at 2:13 p.m. At 2:14 p.m., someone tries to unlock the phone with their fingerprint but is unsuccessful.
- 2:32 p.m. is the last known movement of the phone.
- The phone stayed on and received messages late into the night, at least until about 10:30 p.m.
- Cecil says there’s no indication the phone was turned off but that it didn’t receive notifications again until 4:33 a.m. on Feb. 14. That’s when about 20 SMS messages came through.
- When asked why there’s a gap, Cecil said he didn’t know.
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Updated: Oct 23, 2024 / 08:42 PM EST


DELPHI, Ind. (WISH) — Richard Allen’s attorneys want the jury to hear evidence and testimony from their experts who claim the murders of Abby Williams and Libby German were Odinism ritualistic killings.

 
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Oct 23, 2024

DAILY TRIAL HIGHLIGHTS​

DAY 4 – 10/22/24​

  • ISP CSI Brian Olehy, the lead CSI at the crime scene, continued his testimony detailing evidence collected at the scene and items collected at autopsy
    • Sexual assault kits were done on both girls at autopsy
    • On cross-examination, Olehy said “No specific photos” were taken of the ground after the .40 caliber round was removed. He said there were no photos taken of the round itself after it was removed.
    • Defense attorney Bradley Rozzi presented the swabs to Olehy and asked if any of the information on them was a link to Allen. Olehy said, “No.”
  • Lt. Brian Bunner, a digital forensic expert, testified about his role in examining information captured from Libby’s phone.
    • Lt. Bunner said the timeline report showed a video. It was a video taken at 2:13 p.m. on February 13, 2017, the day Abby and Libby were last seen alive.
    • The video, which lasted only 35 to 40 seconds, was shown once on a large television monitor in the courtroom.
    • The video shows Libby filming herself and Abby on the Delphi High Bridge. At one point, the camera points up and you can see there is no one behind Abby.
    • However, in a later shot, it shows a man walking behind her. That man has been called “The Bridge Man.”
    • A girl’s voice was heard on the video, and when Libby’s mother heard the voice (presumed to be her daughter) she started to cry and became very emotional.
    • The young lady was talking as she was walking at the end of the bridge.
    • Reporters in court heard the voice say, “There’s no path. The trail ends here so we have to go down here?”
    • Several reporters said the tone of the comment sounded like a question.
    • Shortly after the girl’s voice stopped, reporters in court say they heard a voice believed to be a man, but it was unclear what was said.
    • The video from the bridge was not enhanced, and it was only played once for the jury to watch and hear.
    • There were several screenshots displayed of the man in the video behind Abby. They were shown to the jury.
  • WATCH: Delphi Murders: Video Recorded On One of Victim’s Phone Played in Court
  • Jeremey Chapman, an AV technician for ISP who was responsible for enhancing the cellphone audio and video, took the the stand.
    • Judge Gull allowed the enhanced version of the video to be played in court Tuesday afternoon. It was about 45 seconds long. They played the video in its entirety a second time.
    • In the video, the girls are heard saying, “See this is the path. There is no path. We have to go down here?” Shortly after, a man’s voice says “Guys, down the hill.”
    • Chapman said he pulled three frames of still images of “Bridge Guy.” He cleaned those up by adjusting the contrast and brightness of the images. He also used de-blurring and filters to enhance the photos.
  • Railly Voorhies testified she was walking on the trail with her sisters and a friend and taking photos near the Monon High Bridge on February 13, 2017.
    • Voorhies showed the jury the path she took to the bridge on a map. That trail was across from Freedom Bridge and across from the Monon High Bridge.
    • While walking along the trail to go home, she said she didn’t see anyone on the path past Freedom Bridge. However, she said she did pass a man who did not wave back at her and “did not seem to be a happy person” near the Freedom Bridge.
    • The state showed a photo of the “Bridge Guy” and Voorhies said, “That was the man I had waved at on the trail.”
  • Two other witnesses testified to be on the trail that day and seeing “Bridge Guy”
  • READ MORE: Examination of physical evidence recovered at crime scene a focus of day 4
 
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10/23/24

The autopsy revealed Williams had a five to six-centimeter-long wound (approximately 2 inches long) on the left side of her neck, however, Dr. Kohr said it was not a deep cut, "only an inch deep" in the doctor's words. He stated there was some skin damage to the right side which he believes suggests the cut was made from right to left.

Dr. Kohr observed liver mortis on Abby's body, which he described as purplish areas where blood settles after a body has been in the same position for a prolonged time. He says they found liver mortis on her upper back and the back of Williams' legs.

"She'd been laying on her back position for long periods of time after death," he said.

Kohr said liver mortis sets in after a person has been dead for at least eight hours.

Dr. Kohr said there was something that looked like a smear on one of Williams' arms. He says that may have come when she was given Libby's sweatshirt.
 
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10/23/24

Kohr also testified about the autopsy he did on Libby German. He said German had four wounds on her neck, and possibly a fifth. Two of those wounds overlapped. Kohr observed there was an X-like pattern in the larger wound on German's neck. Dr. Kohr says it is likely there were two passes made that resulted in that wound.

He was unsure of what he called the middle wound. He believed it could have been a second pass with the weapon, but wasn't certain. He also noted a few small abrasions below German's neck. He observed there were changes in the pattern of the cuts, and said if a person was drawing away as they were being cut, it could cause some changes.

There were five marks on the edge of the wound on the right side of Libby's neck. Those marks were one millimeter wide with a space between them.

Dr. Kohr initially surmised a serrated knife was used to make the cuts, but says he thought about the cut marks in the past few months. He now believes a box cutter was used as the weapon. Kohr said he did not create a supplemental report because he felt it would be speculative, but not definitive.

Dr. Kohr was asked by an attorney what happens to a body with wounds like these. He responded, "Bleeding will not be under pressure. It would be slower. (It) would happen over several minutes. As blood volume drops significantly, the body will go into shock. Organs will lose function. (The person) will lose consciousness, but not (they would not be) dead right away."

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The doctor estimated what he called a "very ballpark timeline for expiration" that was based on the position of the body. "Still sitting would take longer to lose enough blood at least five to ten minutes, maybe longer. Laying down would go faster than standing up."

As for Libby German, Kohr said her blood loss was more rapid than Williams', and he estimated she would have gone into shock more quickly because of that. He also testified she had blood on her hands.

He estimated German would have died in five to ten minutes, but guessed it likely would have been closer to five minutes based on the severity of her injuries. Dr. Kohr also noted that German had swelling of her brain due to less oxygen.

Neither girl had any signs of sexual trauma or defensive wounds.

Dr. Kohr testified he did not see any crime scene photos until this year, which was after his reports had been issued.

The doctor could not determine the exact type of weapon used or the length of the blade, but he said "anything from a pocketknife to a kitchen knife to Abby. (There is) no way to tell if it was right or left-handed."
 
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Oct 23, 2024


Autopsy doctor describes Abby's and Libby's injuries | Trial Day 5 | DELPHI DEBRIEF​


On the fifth day of the trial for Richard Allen, jurors heard testimony from the doctor who performed the autopsies on Libby German and Abby Williams.
 
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Oct 22, 2024


Letter allegedly signed by Richard Allen is one of the exhibits | Trial Day 4 | DELPHI DEBRIEF​


13News uncovered a letter, allegedly signed by Allen and addressed to the warden of the prison he was held at, in the exhibits for the case. In Delphi, jurors were shown the evidence collected from the scene where Abby and Libby's bodies were found in 2017. Indiana State Police investigator Brian Olehy continued his testimony Tuesday morning.Indiana State Police digital forensic examiner Brian Bunner testified on the cellphone extraction of Libby's cellphone, which was found at the crime scene.

MORE: https://www.wthr.com/article/news/cri...
 
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Oct 21, 2024


Jury sees graphic crime scene photos | Day 3 of the Delphi Murders Trial | DELPHI DEBRIEF​


Our 13News team breaks down Day 3 of the Delphi Murders Trial where the jury today saw graphic photos from the crime scene 7 years ago.
 
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Opening Statements and First Witnesses | Day 1 of the Delphi Murders Trial | DELPHI DEBRIEF​


Oct 18, 2024
13News recaps the start of the long awaited Delphi Murders Trial. We go over the opening statements, first witnesses and tell you what happened in the courtroom
 
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11. Then, during her statement two years later, transcripts reportedly show Carbaugh suddenly said she saw Bridge Guy splattered with blood. The witness denied changing her story but refused to look at her 2nd & 3rd interview transcripts when the defense offered her the chance.
8:29 PM · Oct 23, 2024

12. I noticed one juror raise her eyebrows at the combative responses given by the State’s witness. And while Richard Allen was sitting right across from Carbaugh, prosecutors never asked her to identify if the defendant is the Bridge Guy she saw walking on the side of the road.
8:34 PM · Oct 23, 2024

 
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Day 2 of testimonies in Delphi murders trial | Oct. 19, 2024​


Former Delphi Police Chief Steve Mullin takes the stand as the state's fourth witness. Mullins said he still had hope when the first round of searching ended on Feb. 13, 2017. "I still believed at that time they would returns home," Mullin said. The next witness was Jake Johns, who helped with the search for the missing girls. He wasn't the one that found them, but he did locate Libby's tie-dyed shirt. The third witness of the day was Pat Brown, the man who located Abby and Libby's bodies on Feb. 14. During his testimony, Brown told the jury, “First, I thought they were mannequins.” He then began crying as he told jurors he realized, “We found ‘em.”
 

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