IN - Aliahna Maroney Lemmon, 9, Fort Wayne, 23 Dec 2011 - #2

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  • #561
I understand the sentiment. But I don't want to escape this world. I want the evils, soulless people in it to be booted off.

I totally understand your sentiment, but I don't think that is going to happen. Actually I believe it is going to get much worse. Evil will prevail and we just need to get prepared for what is coming. And at the risk of sounding like I am preaching, I think the devil is lose and he is taking from this world what God loves most and that is little children. No person could do this to another person if they weren't pure evil. jmo
 
  • #562
I know there is no logic to these crimes, but I wonder what made him kill her, on this day. Sounds like he had regular access to her and if he was molesting her, sounds like no one would have believed her anyway. Did she "talk back" to him or put up a fight, I wonder...I'd like to think she got off a good kick someplace where it hurt, at least...

Anyway, it strikes me, because if he had controlled his rage, he probably could have continued abusing this child for years to come...assuming he did, which I do...JMO
 
  • #563
I looked @ stepfathers facebook earlier and it had where he played quite a online games. Wonder why they are removed now?

yeah, I wonder . . .
 
  • #564
Not taking up for Mom, but last year I had the flu and was in bed for 3 weeks with 104 fever. I thought I was going to die. I had my dogs to take care of and I did, but I couldn't have taken care of any children. But, why wasn't the grandmother taking care of them? This is just the saddest, most sadistic thing I have ever heard of. Have the other children said anything? How did he kill her without them knowing what was going on?

I meant no offense and am sorry that you were so ill with the flu. WS members posted that Ali's mother was "unable to sleep and playing online games in the wee hours" while her daughter was missing. It sounded so much like Deborah Bradley's defense of her "adult time" during which she drank and didn't tend to the needs of the three children left in her care.

I don't understand this grandmother at all! Yes, why wasn't SHE watching her grandchildren instead of the neighbor? And, why has the grandmother defended MP?
 
  • #565
Why did the three little girls need to SLEEP over at that trailer for a week? Why couldn't they come home and sleep in their own beds? Surely the mom's flu would not prevent the girls from being able to sleep at home each night. I just do not understand that at all.

and why would a single man want to care, feed, bathe, and care for 3 small girls for a week??????
He had his reasons and motives!
When were they suppose to go home?
 
  • #566
I have grandchildren eight, nine and eleven and I know that children these ages can be a great help when you are sick. These children are not toddlers who would required constant eyes-on care. I had the flu which turned into pneumonia all during the month of November (and I had the flu shot in August :banghead:. IMO, there was absolutely no reason for the children to be handed over to this "friend" for a week. Now, the stepfather worked nights and slept in the daytime, but again...........no reason for the girls to not be in their own homes, especially at Christmas time. There was something else going on IMO.

After I posted that the thought occurred to me that I didn't know the ages of the other children. You are absolutely right. They could of helped Mom out. You might be on to something as to another reason for them being over there. As far as the mother is concerned, I can't even post here what my mind pictures her as being. jmo
 
  • #567
I'm still trying to find out more about this "fake buster" stuff and it let me to this site
http://kupika.com/ Very fishy,I think,the girls on there are "anonymous" and very young and inviting others to be their "pen pals" or love interest".....

It could very well be a 'sting' operation by private citizens. Have you ever seen the picture on line of the 'young girl' who is actually a middle aged 400 lb male SO wedged into an office chair?
 
  • #568
Wouldn't you think that the local media would have uncovered this information regarding MP?

IF MP was a fugitive from Indiana because he is a RSO, I would think they would keep him registered since he has a history of taking off to other states.

I will send the Sheriff a email and see if he responds to me.

ETA: We need to find the charges, court documents, something connecting MP being a RSO even if he is no longer registered.

http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/12/27/2563190/indiana-man-accused-in-hacksaw.html

Michael Plumadore, 39, is a former Miami resident and a fugitive wanted in Florida for the past 11 years after violating probation in 2000, according to the Florida Department of Corrections.

An arrest warrant was issued for Plumadore in June 2000, after Plumadore failed to report to his probation officer and failed to attend a court-ordered anger-management class, said Ann Howard, communications director for the Florida Department of Corrections.

"We have been looking for him since 2000," Howard said.


He's been running from FL for > 10 years . . .
 
  • #569
I meant no offense and am sorry that you were so ill with the flu. WS members posted that Ali's mother was "unable to sleep and playing online games in the wee hours" while her daughter was missing. It sounded so much like Deborah Bradley's defense of her "adult time" during which she drank and didn't tend to the needs of the three children left in her care.

I don't understand this grandmother at all! Yes, why wasn't SHE watching her grandchildren instead of the neighbor? And, why has the grandmother defended MP?

Having raised three boys, I know that we moms do have super human strength. lol Thanks goodness for that. You are right, there is no excuse for 3 little girls being in a home alone with a man whether he is a sex offender or not. No reason for it. jmo
 
  • #570
I know there is no logic to these crimes, but I wonder what made him kill her, on this day. Sounds like he had regular access to her and if he was molesting her, sounds like no one would have believed her anyway. Did she "talk back" to him or put up a fight, I wonder...I'd like to think she got off a good kick someplace where it hurt, at least...

Anyway, it strikes me, because if he had controlled his rage, he probably could have continued abusing this child for years to come...assuming he did, which I do...JMO

I wonder what set him off as well. He did not plan his crime too well considering the huge amount of evidence he had left in his trailer. So I think it was not a planned event. Something bad happened that made him snap. Since she was outside, supposedly, when he hit her over the head, I assume she was trying to escape him. Maybe she had finally had enough. Poor Sweet Baby. :rose:
 
  • #571
ITA lonetraveler! When they say "mom was home sick with the flu" it isn't mentioned that there was another adult living in the home. Who cares that he worked nights and slept days. THEY were the parents. Never would I have ever farmed out my kids if I would have been sick - plus DH was always there too. Raising kids is exhausting work. You do what you have to do - and if there are two of you - you get through it together.

It makes no sense why those girls were with this guy for "almost a week" - NONE!!!!
I really want to hear more about why these kids were left with this guy for so long.

JMHO

More precisely, it makes no sense as anything other than an alibi. Consider:

The excuse for having the little girls sleep elsewhere at night was that dad worked at night.... wait, what?

It would be one thing (irresponsible perhaps, but at least plausible) if, mom being sick and all, they had asked a neighbor to help watch the kids during the day while dad was sleeping. That's not what happened though. Nor did they ask this best buddy to come to their house and watch the kids there, nor did dad ask Mike if he could crash on his couch during this Christmas break (if his undisturbed daytime sleep was so critical).

The work is an alibi. The hours are an alibi. The flu was an alibi.

And I suspect, SUSPECT, that LE is asking these questions as well.

In my opinion of course.
 
  • #572
Warning: I'm about to go against the grain here..

MP was an established family acquaintance/caregiver for 2 years in this trailer park. He wasn't a stranger. In all likelihood, the kids went back and forth between the 2 residences often (once a day? once a week?). The trust with MP was IMO very well established over a significant time period, or so it seems. Even the neighbors knew that the girls saw MP as a "father figure."

MP confessed pretty quickly and seemingly w/o much resistance. And that makes me wonder if he saw killing this poor child as a twisted act of mercy. He very definitely played a role in easing pain and death with Shorty. He saw her deficits, knew her struggles, and thought it better for those to end. Playing God, if you will.

Random thoughts...

maybe LE ought to look at exactly how Grandpa died...in the home and all
 
  • #573
I know there is no logic to these crimes, but I wonder what made him kill her, on this day. Sounds like he had regular access to her and if he was molesting her, sounds like no one would have believed her anyway. Did she "talk back" to him or put up a fight, I wonder...I'd like to think she got off a good kick someplace where it hurt, at least...

Anyway, it strikes me, because if he had controlled his rage, he probably could have continued abusing this child for years to come...assuming he did, which I do...JMO

JMO, but she may have threatened to tell her mother what he was doing to her and made a run out the door to escape him and he caught her on the ramp just outside of the trailer and beat her in the head with the brick.
 
  • #574
I googled Sheriff Len Hagaman. He is in recent MSM articles, as recently as within the last week.

I doubt he would be providing inaccurate information.

The information posted, only leads me to believe Sheriff Hagaman was able to access information that MP was required to register in 2007. Was registered in 2007. Was a fugitive from Indiana at the time, but for what crime and if it were related to his RSO status we don't know.

Also, this information coming from Watauga County does not indicate anything more than MP resided in this county at one time. It does not give us any information in what state, county and what date MP was convicted of a crime requiring him to register as an RSO and for how long. If he was convicted in say 1997 and not required to register for more than 10 years he would not have had to register after 2008.

jmo and how I am reading the information.

I will continue to look for court documents to see if I can connect charges for MP in order for him to register at some point as a RSO so I have a clearer picture.

I am not saying the Sheriff is not giving accurate information as the Sheriff could have said something, however, it could have been reported another way.

So since I like to put 1 and 1 together so I get 2, I will see if I can locate some court documents to connect the dots.
 
  • #575
I meant no offense and am sorry that you were so ill with the flu. WS members posted that Ali's mother was "unable to sleep and playing online games in the wee hours" while her daughter was missing. It sounded so much like Deborah Bradley's defense of her "adult time" during which she drank and didn't tend to the needs of the three children left in her care.

I don't understand this grandmother at all! Yes, why wasn't SHE watching her grandchildren instead of the neighbor? And, why has the grandmother defended MP?

IIRC, Gma lives in FL.
 
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  • #577
JMO, but she may have threatened to tell her mother what he was doing to her and made a run out the door to escape him and he caught her on the ramp just outside of the trailer and beat her in the head with the brick.

After listening to Grandma, I doubt she would have been believed...JMO
 
  • #578
Now my main concern is for the 2 sisters, where are they now?
What did they see?
Hear?
Where did he brutally murder their sister, were they awake? in their room?
and the dismembership, where were they?
What did they see?
Did he make them help?
After he was done, did he leave them alone while he took some of Ali's body parts away?
Did the little ones see all the blood?
God bless these little ones, please never give them back to the family.
They deserve more care and love now.
Counseling!
 
  • #579
More precisely, it makes no sense as anything other than an alibi. Consider:

The excuse for having the little girls sleep elsewhere at night was that dad worked at night.... wait, what?

It would be one thing (irresponsible perhaps, but at least plausible) if, mom being sick and all, they had asked a neighbor to help watch the kids during the day while dad was sleeping. That's not what happened though. Nor did they ask this best buddy to come to their house and watch the kids there, nor did dad ask Mike if he could crash on his couch during this Christmas break (if his undisturbed daytime sleep was so critical).

The work is an alibi. The hours are an alibi. The flu was an alibi.

And I suspect, SUSPECT, that LE is asking these questions as well.

In my opinion of course.

I've read that there were three more children in the home; another girl and two boys. Does anyone have any information to confirm this?
 
  • #580
After listening to Grandma, I doubt she would have been believed...JMO

It makes me go places I didn't know I had. I can't help thinking those girls were loaned out on a regular basis. I need to go shower after even typing that, but I can't shake the feeling. Too much doesn't make sense, and the things that do point to a complicit ring of child sexual abuse.

MOO. Totally MOO.
 
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