IN - Aliahna Maroney Lemmon, 9, Fort Wayne, 23 Dec 2011 - #3

[matou]

Plumador moved in with Grandpa Lemmon only a few days after coming to the park. It doesn't sound like MP knew the family at all before coming to the park.

Shumaker said he introduced Plumadore to Lemmon shortly after Plumadore moved into the trailer park, and Plumadore moved in with Lemmon a few days later. Shumaker said he knew Lemmon because they were both sex offenders and were in jail together.

http://www.courier-journal.com/arti...280100/Fort-Wayne-girl-death?odyssey=nav|head

 

[Ladylub]

It was another RSO that stated that MP was a sex offender right?
Just wondering if maybe MP has never been caught but he spoke of his crimes with the other sex offenders and that is how this other guy is claiming MP is a SO.

 

[jjenny]

Ok...So the perp was living/taking care of the RSO grandpa until he died on Dec. 3rd, in exchange for room and board..Did the grandpa own the trailer? It seems like the perp days were numbered and would be evicted soon...Just thinking out loud.

Well if he was taking care of grandpa then maybe grandpa left the trailer to him.
Cause clearly he still was living there even after grandpa died.

 

[jjenny]

did she know that though?

I don't know what she knew, but who exactly is supposed to be finding out these things before sending children over for babysitting? These people clearly have access to computers, with all their facebook presence.

 

[krimekat]

I noticed that TS stated that she worked in Chambersburg, PA. If this is true, then sounds like Aliahna at some point lived in Pennsylvania also. (is this where AS is from?) This was at the beginning of 2011.

not that far from Hagerstown, MD

FYI - I've seen reference that A Souder is in one of the armed forces. IIRC a pic of him in uniform holding a baby

 

[Dr.Fessel]

So we now have information that Aliahna lived in IN, IA and MD. I think it's pretty clear she's not a child in a military family so why the state hopping in her family? What were they (potentially) running from?

Is this going to end up a case where we learn how CPS lost track of a child/ren in the system because the family up and moves to avoid investigation?

jmo

3 states all in a year with all those kids.

 

[tehcloser]

Well if he was taking care of grandpa then maybe grandpa left the trailer to him.
Cause clearly he still was living there even after grandpa died.

GP died Dec. 3rd......the months rent is not up yet.

 

[Dr.Fessel]

Well if he was taking care of grandpa then maybe grandpa left the trailer to him.
Cause clearly he still was living there even after grandpa died.

Then you would have the lot rental and all the utilities to pay.

 

[Bittiness39]

Some people are willing to lose their life for their own child...

Jenni Lake gave birth to a baby boy the month before her 18th birthday, though she was not destined to become just another teenage mother.

That much, she knew.

While being admitted to the hospital, she pulled her nurse down to her at bed level and whispered into her ear. The nurse would later repeat the girl's words to comfort her family, as their worst fears were realized a day after Jenni's baby was born.

"She told the nurse, `I'm done, I did what I was supposed to. My baby is going to get here safe,'" said Diana Phillips, Jenni's mother.

In photographs, the baby's ruddy cheeks and healthy weight offer a stark contrast to the frail girl who gave birth to him. She holds the newborn tightly, kissing the top of his head. Jenni, at 5 feet and 4 inches tall, weighed only 108 pounds at the full term of her pregnancy.

A day after the Nov. 9 birth, Phillips learned that her daughter's decision to forgo treatment for tumors on her brain and spine so she could carry the baby would have fatal repercussions. The cancer had marked too much territory. Nothing could be done, Phillips said.Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/health/2011/...test=latestnews?test=latestnews#ixzz1hsdAcvzw

And some people can't make a quick trip next door to check on their kids in person. That to me speaks volumes. I am not saying that the 18 year old written about above is perfect, or that her decision to save her son didn't have tragic consequences for her and her family members. At 18, the girl described above, protected her child like a bear cub. At 28 years old, 3 marriages and 5-6 kids later, TS, hands hers off for a week...and according to MSM, didn't lay eyes on them for days...even though she lived right next door.

While I pray for TS and her family, my heart is with Aliahna. My strongest prayers are for the remaining children. Their safety is paramount. Their later adult lives, I pray, are not ruined.

 

[SyraKelly]

I don't know what she knew, but who exactly is supposed to be finding out these things before sending children over for babysitting? These people clearly have access to computers, with all their facebook presence.

point taken!!!!

 

[Adrienne37]

I'm sure ya'll are already all over this but even the biological father states he knew this creep as well....


The father of a 9-year-old Indiana girl who was bludgeoned with a brick and dismembered says he knew the man accused of killing his daughter and had no reason to distrust him.
http://www.newser.com/article/d9rtp...f-plans-trip-from-iowa-to-attend-funeral.html

 

[Helenstreet]

When I first saw a photo of TS, I thought that she was one of the Grandmothers. This 28-year-old is definitely not a well woman. TS seems to have no (or very few) teeth that can be a sign of chronic illness, among other reasons that may come up later in the case. jmo

This is purely speculation, but the first thing I thought of was drug abuse. My sister-in-law, who lives in Washington state, (where many refer to as meth capital--starts with an S and ends with an e), went to a homeless shelter to find an individual to be a patient for one of her board tests; she needed someone with a significant amount of plaque but with limited tooth decay. The homeless shelter is a good place because she could help someone without dental insurance by providing months of free cleanings and other dental work. She told me that they can't take anyone who has "meth mouth". I had never heard the term before, but apparently it is well known amongst those involved in dental care. But, perhaps in this case it is illness related. I believe that it will all eventually come out to the public.

 

[krimekat]

It was another RSO that stated that MP was a sex offender right?
Just wondering if maybe MP has never been caught but he spoke of his crimes with the other sex offenders and that is how this other guy is claiming MP is a SO.

No, I have not seen this, for what that's worth :burn:

 

[Helplessly Hoping]

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um, okay

but I can see where you are going with this . . .

We do not know how well A Story knew MP at this time. We know that MP has been living with RSO Lemmon (A Story's ex husband) at the trailer park on & off for 4 years. We know that A Story is remarried to D Story (Jun 2007 or 9, I will check) in Florida.

So, how well would the ex-wife of RSO Lemmon (divorce date?) who was not in IN during the time MP was taking care of Lemmon in Pedophilia Junction, really know MP?

We also know that Tarah was concerned about MP prior to moving to Fort Wayne.

:burn: SOs destroying lives for generations IMHO of course

I'm livid over this too. And no we don't know much; but when some people are overwhelmed (or other) as maybe TS was (not condoning just trying to make some sort of sense) any respite is welcome...and some people readily overlook someone's past~if she was willing to be okay w/the grandfather's history...who knows what else she was okay with? These are not my standards or probably yours so it makes it really hard to understand....jmo

 

[believe09]

TS made an incredibly poor choice to let her children stay with MP-I dont understand how and why she did it. I am angry that she did so.

:floorlaugh: Ayup.

 

[krimekat]

Well if he was taking care of grandpa then maybe grandpa left the trailer to him.
Cause clearly he still was living there even after grandpa died.

The neighbors said Plumadore's only source of income was donating plasma, and they were beginning to wonder how he'd pay the rent.

Motive still unknown in 9-year-old's killing

This type of mobile home park may be one where you pay rent & not own the camper (if you have not seen pics of this place, please search them out)

Northway Mobile Home Park

 

[Kamille]

Plumador moved in with Grandpa Lemmon only a few days after coming to the park. It doesn't sound like MP knew the family at all before coming to the park.

Shumaker said he introduced Plumadore to Lemmon shortly after Plumadore moved into the trailer park, and Plumadore moved in with Lemmon a few days later. Shumaker said he knew Lemmon because they were both sex offenders and were in jail together.

http://www.courier-journal.com/arti...280100/Fort-Wayne-girl-death?odyssey=nav|head

This is where it gets confusing to me. MP moved into the trailer park, met Grandpa Lemmon and moved in with him a few days later. So did he move into his own trailer and move out a few days later to move in with Grandpa? Did he move in with Shumaker and move out a few days later to move in with Grandpa? How did Shumaker know him? :waitasec:

Grandma in Florida talks about MP like she knows him personally. Aliahna's father DM from Iowa says he knew MP too. How did all of these people who don't live in the state meet him? Especially since he didn't live there with Grandpa the whole time and had only moved back in the summer when the family asked him to?

Why was he in Iowa when TS and her family were there? Where was he living then when he had this DV case against him that was eventually dismissed? Is this how DM got to meet him? Because he said he met him through TS. It's all so convoluted.

MOO

 

[melissasmom]

I'm sure ya'll are already all over this but even the biological father states he knew this creep as well....


The father of a 9-year-old Indiana girl who was bludgeoned with a brick and dismembered says he knew the man accused of killing his daughter and had no reason to distrust him.
http://www.newser.com/article/d9rtp...f-plans-trip-from-iowa-to-attend-funeral.html

Yep, I am not suprised. It seems that ALL these people, including at least 2 of the men that Tarah had kids with, and her current husband, knew MP. It is a strange circle. I'm still trying to figure it out- the moving, the baby daddies, etc.

 

[melissasmom]

I'm not on facebook but is it normal/accepted to take shirtless pictures? Just curious...

If you are an "unusual" person it is. JMO, from what I've seen on FB.

 

[Cubby]

Thank you, Cubby. My point is that this does not mean that she didnt call and check. Clearly she did not speak to Aliahna after she was killed. But, we do not know that she didnt speak with anyone and we do not know that she didnt call and we do not know if any of her children called her.

According to MSM she called Friday at 10 am. What leaves me scratching my head are the parents who call and do not ask to speak to their children.

I've never talked to anyone caring for my child and not also spoke to my child during the same phone call. If I were getting excuses repeatedly that someone was not letting me talk to my child it would raise an alarm.