IN - Aliahna Maroney Lemmon, 9, Fort Wayne, 23 Dec 2011 - #5

[billisbobby]

THis may have been what started that discussion.

"Sheriff Len Hagaman said that Michael Plumadore was in Watauga and registered as a sex offender on November 29th of 2007 when found by a sex offender check, and found him to be a fugitive from Indiana at that time."

Link

mysteryview
You might be interested in reading this. imoo

 

[Donjeta]

So, if the person this obit is for is MPs grandfather, and he has two daughters, then one of them would be his mother, yes?

imo

Unless one of his children died before him? The obit lists the survivors but says nothing about wives, siblings, etc. who might not have survived beyong his death.

 

[Cubby]

Maybe she thought he was innocent. Maybe she thought he was being unfairly accused out of vengeance or something like that. Maybe, since he was on his deathbed, she wanted to be close to him and have her kids get the final chance to know their dying grandfather.

I am NOT saying it was the right decision. But in a purely dysfunctional home, the decision may have seemed right to her at the time. Especially if she were convinced he was an innocent man.

Even if she thought he was innocent. Even if she thought he was unfairly accused, she was still aware of the surrounding residents and the neighborhood grandpa chose to live in.

As a parent, there are simply options we are no longer able to make as our first priority must ALWAYS be our children.

Today I am home because a few hours ago my sons father called asking if I was going to be home, in case his 90 year old mother gets released from the hospital, which, according to him, may or may not happen.

Never mind that my sons dad has a sister within a few miles with a grown son. Never mind we were already told 90 year old grandma was released from the hospital and were never informed she had been re-admitted.

Dad thought he was to drop our son off at noon, but clearly didn't read the visitation paperwork indicating drop off on NY's day is between 6:30-7:00 pm.

Never mind what has crossed my mind as dads motivation here, MY job as a parent is to be there 24/7/365 for MY child, even if it meant I had to be on my way to the airport to pick him up at a moments notice. Both myself and my mother would do nothing less for this child.

Sadly, Aliahna didn't have that from her mother, her mothers family or her step dad. Why? I don't believe it is inappropriate to question the why, nor will I make excuses for those people who utterly failed to protect an already abused child.

JMO

 

[hkhart]

So, if the person this obit is for is MPs grandfather, and he has two daughters, then one of them would be his mother, yes?

imo

One would think - as they didn't mention any preceded by names. I do know that Melton goes with Thompson. I'm thinking that the Puckett is a half sibling to Plumadore. I believe there is a picture on FB that could be MP mother. So perhaps she wasn't married to his father?

 

[Noway]

anyone use spokeo for people search?
http://www.spokeo.com

There are several with the name MP.

http://www.spokeo.com/search?q=Michael+Plumadore&s1=c

hkhart, are you fairly certain that the MP listed in the geneology page is the MP in this case? TIA

 

[billisbobby]

Well, she had been worried about him and some of the other residents earlier on, and so she asked her father for some assurances. You and I see the father as just another RSO. But she evidently was close to her father,and maybe she thought he was innocent of the charges.

My mother, who is a wonderful, nurturing and caring soul, allowed her little brother to move into our home and become our babysitter when she was divorced. She thought it was a win-win situation. Her little brother, who was 18, had been molested by the parish priest when he was much younger. He had been having some emotional issues , temper problems, trouble fitting in, and she thought that living with us would help him. And she wanted someone trustworthy, like family, to watch us after school since she had gone to work for the first time in her life. She trusted him totally. And he raped me for a few years until I was about 9 or 10 years old.

People reading this might blame my mom, assume that she should have KNOWN he was going to act out like that. But in her eyes, he was her little brother who needed love and a family close by to help him. It never ever occurred to her that he would lash out like that. My mom is not stupid or uncaring. She is a naive and hopeful Pisces, that made a serious error.

(HUGS) Im so sorry you went through this. :grouphug: Sorry if my post seemed uncaring.
imoo

 

[Dee10]

So, if the person this obit is for is MPs grandfather, and he has two daughters, then one of them would be his mother, yes?

imo

I am so lost...could someone please provide the Grandfather's name, then I could try from there? I am so bad at genealogy. Please?

 

[hkhart]

There are several with the name MP.

http://www.spokeo.com/search?q=Michael+Plumadore&s1=c

hkhart, are you fairly certain that the MP listed in the geneology page is the MP in this case? TIA

I'm fairly certain. Genealogy is a hobby of mine. Plumadore isn't a common name and so when I was backtracking, I came across the obit. Upon further sleuthing, one of the grandchildren listed in obit has a fb page with some pictures of their own daughter. On several of the pictures a "KK" who has been mentioned here posts some comments. All 3 relatives are there and what I believe could be MP mother.

That said - as far as I can see, no one has made any reference to the killing or being related, etc. They appear to be of a higher class than some of the other players in the case. JMHO however.

 

[ssa]

ssa-thank you for your post.

It's my understanding a criminal protective order can be issued by any LE officer, right on the spot, when a report is taken. My point was, the judge could have and should have, had the victim go with the bailiff to file a report, should have referred them to victim's services, CPS, immediately. This judge, the court, and the system failed this 13 year old girl. MP was not held accountable for his actions, and who knows how many other little girls were also lost in the "system."

You're welcome, AngelWings.

I've never heard of LE issuing criminal protective orders; I've always found it to be a judicial function, because the perpetrator has Constitutional rights. Usually a court will issue an emergency temporary protective order and set a date for a hearing on the permanent order.

But I completely agree with you that the judge and the "system" failed to protect this 13 year old Iowa girl, and by so doing, also failed to protect every other little girl who would come into contact with MP, including Ali. That's why I'm advocating for a law in Iowa requiring judges to refer civil cases to LE the minute they see any allegations of sexual abuse on a child. Let LE sort it out and let them get on it asap.

It's also why I'm advocating that parents call the police when their child tells them that an adult is harrassing them, stalking them, sending them sexually explicit photos and texts, etc. Parents need to make the call not only to protect their child, but also to protect other children who will encounter the perpetrator. Parents should not try to handle the matter for themselves in civil court; they should let LE handle the matter.

When I look at this case, I ask myself: what could have been done to prevent Ali's death? Her family seems really dysfunctional, so there is no easy answer to my question there. But the Iowa case does provide an easy and clear answer: the Iowa cased was dismissed in November 2010. Bringing LE in promptly on that case would have resulted in MP being held on his fugitive warrant from Florida while LE investigated Mom's allegations against MP. Even if Iowa didn't have enough evidence to charge and convict MP, Florida was waiting in the wings for him. Putting him in jail would have protected the Iowa girl; it also would have protected Ali, who was killed just 13 months after the Iowa case was dismissed. But the only way to put MP in jail was to bring this matter to LE asap and before MP had a chance to flee the jurisdiction.

Nothing in this post should be construed as a criticism of the Iowa mom. I think she did the best that she knew how to do to protect her child and I applaud her for it. I'm just hoping that other parents will learn from this case that the best way to protect their child in a similar situation is to call the police asap.

 

[my_tee_mouse]

And whose fault is that? TS was no stranger to parenting a known victim. Are we really to excuse her lack of educating herself not just the first time her daughter was abused, but a second time as well?

If she had no prior experience as a parent of an abused child that's one thing. However this wasn't TS's 'first rodeo' so to speak.

I can see a first time victim being unaware of these resources out there, but I can't excuse prior experience and still being unaware of these resources.

JMO


ETA: She had to have some resources made known to her if she sought to have a therapy dog for her child. So we clearly know she was made aware of resources available to her and her child.

Resources are not automatically linked, and clients/consumers are not automatically told about each and every possible resource available to them. Oh that it were that way, but it simply is not. I learn about new client resources daily, and the information usually comes via word of mouth from other social workers/voc rehab counselors/mental health counselors. TS may well have been totally unaware that specific resources (such as those for emergency care) were available.

 

[Sparklin]

http://www.publicrecords.com/people-search-records/michael-plumadore-in-north-carolina

No relatives added

 

[beach]

Mod Note:

I just removed two links to FB "Support" pages. None of those are permitted at this time - not for either Aliahana or MP.


I spoke with Tricia and Sue this morning and explained the tangled, intertwined mess this is. We'll clarify and update the parameters of posting these kind of links later tonight or early tomorrow. For now, just keep on, keepin' on.

The main thing is not to link to the social media pages right now or bring over any comments/rumors.

 

[bam]

One address is given for a Thrift store.
http://www.spokeo.com/search?q=Michael+Plumadore&s1=c#North+Carolina:3643179191
Also if willing to pay can get a yahoo email address.

There are several with the name MP.

http://www.spokeo.com/search?q=Michael+Plumadore&s1=c

hkhart, are you fairly certain that the MP listed in the geneology page is the MP in this case? TIA

 

[Sparklin]

I'm fairly certain. Genealogy is a hobby of mine. Plumadore isn't a common name and so when I was backtracking, I came across the obit. Upon further sleuthing, one of the grandchildren listed in obit has a fb page with some pictures of their own daughter. On several of the pictures a "KK" who has been mentioned here posts some comments. All 3 relatives are there and what I believe could be MP mother.

That said - as far as I can see, no one has made any reference to the killing or being related, etc. They appear to be of a higher class than some of the other players in the case. JMHO however.

bbm = Are you KIDDING me? WTH!!

Oh sorry...thanks so much for your sleuthing

 

[bam]

Don't always go by age on people searches> Trying to find stepson who constantly lies about his age. I found him on uspeoplesearch age 69 when actually he will be 32 in a few days.

 

[Noway]

I'm fairly certain. Genealogy is a hobby of mine. Plumadore isn't a common name and so when I was backtracking, I came across the obit. Upon further sleuthing, one of the grandchildren listed in obit has a fb page with some pictures of their own daughter. On several of the pictures a "KK" who has been mentioned here posts some comments. All 3 relatives are there and what I believe could be MP mother.

That said - as far as I can see, no one has made any reference to the killing or being related, etc. They appear to be of a higher class than some of the other players in the case. JMHO however.

Thank you!

 

[Cubby]

Resources are not automatically linked, and clients/consumers are not automatically told about each and every possible resource available to them. Oh that it were that way, but it simply is not. I learn about new client resources daily, and the information usually comes via word of mouth from other social workers/voc rehab counselors/mental health counselors. TS may well have been totally unaware that specific resources (such as those for emergency care) were available.

I agree. however, we are then giving TS a pass for not seeking this information herself.

Different situation, but as a newly single parent. I've been an SP since the stick turned pink, I went into the family court system for child support as blind as a bat and as naive as a baby. However the minute I realized I was uneducated or unaware, it then became MY responsibility to educate MYSELF and not rely on an attorney, or a judge or anyone else to provide me with the information I needed to keep myself informed of my rights and the rights of my child.

So, sorry, no pass for TS not knowing once, but at least twice that her child was abused and pretending it was anyone's responsibility other than TS's to educate herself.


ETA: Once Tarah became aware her child was a victim it was TARAH's responsibility to educate herself no one elses. When are we going to STOP making excuses for those who fail victims OVER AND OVER AND OVER.

 

[bam]

http://www.spokeo.com/search?q=Michael+Plumadore&s0=c#Redford,+NY:1399615687

Believe this could be Michael L. Pulmadore

 

[Noway]

I do wonder who (medical professional) diagnoses Aliahna ...

Aliahna's mother, Tarah Souders, 28, told The Journal Gazette earlier Monday that her daughter had vision and hearing problems and suffered from attention-deficit (hyperactivity) disorder and emotional problems.

http://www.pressherald.com/news/nationworld/fbi-joins-search-for-missing-girl-9_2011-12-27.html

 

[my_tee_mouse]

I agree. however, we are then giving TS a pass for not seeking this information herself.

Different situation, but as a newly single parent. I've been an SP since the stick turned pink, I went into the family court system for child support as blind as a bat and as naive as a baby. However the minute I realized I was uneducated or unaware, it then became MY responsibility to educate MYSELF and not rely on an attorney, or a judge or anyone else to provide me with the information I needed to keep myself informed of my rights.

So, sorry, no pass for TS not knowing once, but at least twice that her child was abused and pretending it was anyone's responsibility other than TS's to educate herself.

Still not seeing what her not knowing about services for emergency care during a parent's illness has to do with her being the parent of a child who had been previously abused. Frankly, I had no clue such services existed (and they may not in my area). I don't see it as horrible that a parent is not aware that there are emergency care services in the case of illness. I don't know that it would have ever occurred to me (as a parent) that there was such a resource out there.

I've also seen times when clients actually sought out certain types of services and were told that none existed when in fact they did. So while some might not give TS a "pass" for not having this information, I'm not willing to give her a "fail" for not knowing it either.