IN - Amanda Blackburn, 28, pregnant, murdered, Indianapolis, 10 Nov 2015 - #1

[DexterMorgan]

But since LE is not truly asking for help. It seems like they are trying to link the perp to something. They always will release the description and similar pic of the perps car.

But in this case. Why haven't they released similar pics of the stolen items. Wouldnt that be quicker. Why is the fbi needed? That doesn't make sense unless they are investigating something.

They show grimy footage all of the time with the hopes of anything. Plus if the guy was caught on multiple cameras than what is the problem.

Imo. They are investigating more than searching. Because a person will recognize the stolen items if they just show a picture of the stuff. Jmo.

 

[bessie]

yet, to expand on their one report that has been quoted all over the place, they specify that he is seen entering and exiting the gym at appropriate times.

I want to see an actual LE quote or for them to say it at a presser. Is there anything OTHER than WTHR?

I'm not buying this as fact, sorry.

My own "fact" is that there is a 0% chance they cleared him from all involvement by thursday night based on the proof that he was at the gym when he said he was.

I have read these:
"On Thursday evening, WTHR reported that police have "100% cleared" Davey. Detectives say his time at the gym has been accounted for by security camera images from the gym."

What I'm trying to find out is, Have the police themselves been quoted (with the name of a policeman) that they have cleared the husband of the murder?

Those quotes above indicate, to me, that the reporter is saying that the police have determined the husband was at the gym at the time of the murder so he could not be personally involved.

Has the husband been cleared of having anything to do with the murder, as in hiring the man?

No, the police source has not been named to my knowledge.
Yes, he's named in the WTHR article, and there's more.

Posted: Nov 12, 2015 9:15 AM CST - Updated: Nov 12, 2015 9:21 PM CST
By Steve Jefferson, WTHR Crimebeat reporter

[...]

Thursday afternoon, police said Davey Blackburn has been "100% cleared" in the investigation. Detectives say Blackburn's time at the gym has been accounted for by security camera images from the gym.

[...]

Lt. Richard Riddle with the Indianapolis Metro Police Department spoke with WTHR about the case.

"Obviously our detectives were back out there last night following up with that case and looking for any more evidence that we can find about that case," he said, regarding the second visit IMPD made to the home.

[...]

"I don't know about specific video in that neighborhood. I know if anyone has any surveillance video we would certainly like look for it, look through it and see if there is anything suspicious on it that we can use for this particular case," said Lt. Riddle.

[...]

Lt. Riddle says detectives are working with Davey Blackburn, Amanda's husband, to determine what was taken.

"I know our detectives are working with the husband to figure out exactly what may have been taken and would lead us down a path of further investigation to see if we can find the killers," he said.

Indianapolis residents may recall a pair of brutal home invasions that occurred in October 2013.

"I know there are concerns of that in the neighborhood. And we're certainly doing our best to bring these killers into our custody and bring them to justice," said Lt. Riddle.

Although Lt. Riddle referred to "killers," he said at this point police don't know how many people they're looking for. They also don't know how the intruders got into the house.

"I know our detectives are speaking with the husband and are following up on basically how he left the house that morning. And if that door was locked or if it wasn't; things like that," said Lt. Riddle.

WTHR also asked Lt. Riddle about the brutality of the crime and the fact that Amanda Blackburn saw the intruders.

"Absolutely, that's something we're looking into. It's a concern to us anytime you have somebody inside their home that's brutally murdered like this. That level brutality, like you said, certainly concerns us. That's why we're really looking for the public's help us to bring these killers forward. You got to believe someone out there knows something. Individuals talk and we're looking for anybody with any more information to come forward."

Neighbors are being advised to keep a watchful eye out.

"If you see something, say something. If you know any information, bring it forward to us. Obviously, personal safety - keep your home locked. Keep your doors and windows secured. If you see any suspicious activity please call 911 immediately. Our officers will respond," said Lt. Riddle.

http://www.wthr.com/story/30500485/...ails-of-womans-death-in-violent-home-invasion

 

[borndem]

Alright, I give up. I don't want a cold, lonely and dark vacation. Yall have a good sunday!

Don't leave! We've been together on this for a while -- let's see where it goes...

 

[bessie]

But since LE is not truly asking for help. It seems like they are trying to link the perp to something. They always will release the description and similar pic of the perps car.

But in this case. Why haven't they released similar pics of the stolen items. Wouldnt that be quicker.

IMPD has made pleas for help from the public. And they've remarked on the "outpouring of help" from the community. But, they also know that the information they need is most likely to be found in neighborhoods where residents are wary of LE. Captain Hite said as much. He also mentioned a Rev. Charles Harrison and others like him, who work the streets in those neighborhoods seeking information because they have a better chance of finding cooperation from the residents than LE officers. And I can almost guarantee that photos, or some form of specific details, i.e., a precise description of the hoodie, or the vehicle, is being shared with at least some of the people they're talking with. So, they're using the tactics that they know will be most effective.

Why is the fbi needed? That doesn't make sense unless they are investigating something.

The FBI and the State Police are assisting. There's nothing remarkable about that at all.

"The FBI and State Police have also promised they too will help IMPD solve the case."

http://fox59.com/2015/11/13/impd-ch...t-crime-in-city-and-amanda-blackburns-murder/

They show grimy footage all of the time with the hopes of anything. Plus if the guy was caught on multiple cameras than what is the problem.

Imo. They are investigating more than searching. Because a person will recognize the stolen items if they just show a picture of the stuff. Jmo.

IMO, the risk of repercussions from flashing a picture of an average built AA man, with a hoodie pulled down over his face, is greater than the potential benefit. Like I said, the people who know this guy well enough to recognize his walk, or his jacket, are most likely not the people who are going to jump on the phone and call crime stoppers.

Captain Hite was asked why they wouldn't release the picture. His response: "Always remember this, it's not what you know, it's what you can prove. We want to be sure we have the right evidence, the right information. We don't want to lose this."

You can hear it at about 5:00 in this video.
http://www.wthr.com/clip/12000408/impd-chief-hite-on-blackburn-other-murders

JMO

 

[DexterMorgan]

IMPD has made pleas for help from the public. And they've remarked on the "outpouring of help" from the community. But, they also know that the information they need is most likely to be found in neighborhoods where residents are wary of LE. Captain Hite said as much. He also mentioned a particular minister and others like him, who work the streets in those neighborhoods seeking information because they have a better chance of finding cooperation from the residents than LE officers. And I can almost guarantee that photos, or some form of specific details, i.e., a precise description of the hoodie, or the vehicle, is being shared with at least some of the people they're talking with. So, they're using the tactics that they know will be most effective.

The FBI and the State Police are assisting. There's nothing remarkable about that at all.

"The FBI and State Police have also promised they too will help IMPD solve the case."

http://fox59.com/2015/11/13/impd-ch...t-crime-in-city-and-amanda-blackburns-murder/

IMO, the risk of repercussions from flashing a picture of an average built AA man, with a hoodie pulled down over his face, is greater than the potential benefit. Like I said, the people who know this guy well enough to recognize his walk, or his jacket, are most likely not the people who are going to jump on the phone and call crime stoppers.

Captain Hite was asked why they wouldn't release the picture. His response: "Always remember this, it's not what you know, it's what you can prove. We want to be sure we have the right evidence, the right information. We don't want to lose this."

You can hear it at about 5:00 in this video.
http://www.wthr.com/clip/12000408/impd-chief-hite-on-blackburn-other-murders

JMO

Great. Hopefully his next victim will appreciate this crawl tactic of an arrest. I watch the First 48 all of the time. And they always release the footage in a presser when things get stumped . And they always get leads which eventually gets them the right perp for the most part.

LE even said the guy left enough evidence behind. Also perps have enemies in the neighborhood as well or concerned citizens that want them off the streets.

So a video release will likely point in the right direction before the guy flees. Which he probably has already. Jmo my dear friend.

 

[Hiandmighty]

Anyone else watching the live stream service? I just tuned in a little bit ago and the guy talking is telling the story about about how something isn't right about "crazy" davey and how Davey was charismatic but you would remember Amanda.

and how Amanda like to restore things and take junk and make it beautiful.

 

[JeannaT]

Anyone else watching the live stream service? I just tuned in a little bit ago and the guy talking is telling the story about about how something isn't right about "crazy" davey and how Davey was charismatic but you would remember Amanda.

and how Amanda like to restore things and take junk and make it beautiful.

Someone at the memorial service said something isn't right about him and he's crazy? In what context?

 

[Hiandmighty]

Yeah, they guy doing the eulogy talked about the first time he met Davey and interviewed him to come work at that church. He said he called him "crazy davey" because "something isn't right with him" and that he "couldn't put his finger on it." And how he put davey through some tests and davey passed them and he found out davey was engaged so then he wanted to meet Amanda.

It didn't really seem like a joke (I didn't hear anyone laugh) but it was said in a lighthearted way.

Whatever....

Eta: I haven't been watching a long time but it's a lot about davey and a lot about Jesus but not a whole lot about Amanda. If someone else has been watching since the beginning, please let me know if I missed the Amanda memorial service part.

 

[Hiandmighty]

The guy is on stage and her coffin is there in front of the stage with photos and now they want to start saving people. They are calling for people to come up and give their life to Christ. ETA: the had people bow heads and raise hands of they accept Christ. So no one came up on stage...

 

[DexterMorgan]

Yeah, they guy doing the eulogy talked about the first time he met Davey and interviewed him to come work at that church. He said he called him "crazy davey" because "something isn't right with him" and that he "couldn't put his finger on it." And how he put davey through some tests and davey passed them and he found out davey was engaged so then he wanted to meet Amanda.

It didn't really seem like a joke (I didn't hear anyone laugh) but it was said in a lighthearted way.

Whatever....

I'm sure the attendees was thinking what the heck make them say that. But I'm sure he meant it in a good way to bring more light to how wonderful Amanda was. Jmo. But I didn't see the funeral. So i don't know how to take it. I doubt it was meant to ambush Dave. Jmo.

 

[MJPeony]

... (snipped for brevity)

Eta: I haven't been watching a long time but it's a lot about davey and a lot about Jesus but not a whole lot about Amanda. If someone else has been watching since the beginning, please let me know if I missed the Amanda memorial service part.

There was quite a lengthy video tribute to Amanda towards the beginning. Photos and videos and interview bits from her friends and family.

 

[bessie]

Great. Hopefully his next victim will appreciate this crawl tactic of an arrest. I watch the First 48 all of the time. And they always release the footage in a presser when things get stumped . And they always get leads which eventually gets them the right perp for the most part.

LE even said the guy left enough evidence behind. Also perps have enemies in the neighborhood as well or concerned citizens that want them off the streets.

So a video release will likely point in the right direction before the guy flees. Which he probably has already. Jmo my dear friend.

"Crawl tactic"?? Seriously? Because they're not flashing a picture all over the television and Facebook?? There are other ways to get the information in front of the right people without wasting valuable man hours following up on calls about every 5'4'-5'9", light-to-medium skinned, slim to medium built black man wearing a two-toned hoodie in November, in Indianapolis. Not to mention, possibly driving the perp deeper underground. Those who know, know.

 

[DexterMorgan]

"Crawl tactic"?? Seriously? Because they're not flashing a picture all over the television and Facebook?? There are other ways to get the information in front of the right people without wasting valuable man hours following up on calls about every 5'4'-5'9", light-to-medium skinned black man wearing a two-toned hoodie in November, in Indianapolis. Not to mention, possibly driving the perp deeper underground. Those who know, know.

Lol. Rule number 1. Never argue or debate with a WS Administrator. Lol

I will sit this one out if you dont mind Bessie.

Thanks in advance. Hugs

 

[bluesneakers]

The guy is on stage and her coffin is there in front of the stage with photos and now they want to start saving people. They are calling for people to come up and give their life to Christ. ETA: the had people bow heads and raise hands of they accept Christ. So no one came up on stage...

I think this is a big part of what Davey meant when he said what he said about good things would come from Amanda's death. I can't remember the exact quote, but if people are saved I think he would count that as a God turning her death into a triumph.

 

[Hiandmighty]

Does she have a twin and did they get married in a double ceremony? I put the service back on and there was a pic of her and someone else both in wedding dresses?

 

[Peppery]

Does she have a twin and did they get married in a double ceremony? I put the service back on and there was a pic of her and someone else both in wedding dresses?

They had a double wedding with her sister but they are not twins.

 

[pinkinablueworld]

I think that is her sister. I just watched the service.Very different from any funeral I have experienced, but I do believe it was consistent with how they worshipped. It feel so sorry for Amanda's family. She was so beautiful. I hope they find that horrible scum that took her life. He needs to be off the streets. RIP Amanda.

 

[Peppery]

My opinion of the service: I started a few minutes late but otherwise watched the whole thing. It was very polished and did seem like a performance rather than a service at times. The pastor (not Davey) did talk about "crazy Davey" but I think it was meant to make the story interesting. When he said crazy, I think he really meant more energetic, maybe hyper, outgoing, gregarious, intense. I think we've all met people who make you think "whoa, he a lot to handle!" And that's the impression I got. And that Amanda was more calm, low key, and content to support Davey.

He talked about how when they moved to Indy, Amanda began restoring furniture, taking junk and turning it in to something beautiful, desirable and functional. She told Davey to trust her and give her time with the junk. The pastor used that as a metaphor for this tragedy, that this may feel like junk now but that if we give God time and trust, He has a plan for it. I personally found it inspiring and I cried more than once. Amanda seemed like a lovely woman. The photos at the end, especially with the baby, absolutely broke my heart.

I did not notice a coffin at the front. I'm sure the service will be posted online and I will rematch it to see. There were short clips from her family and friends, but I didn't see Davey or Weston or other family shown while there, but they did meet with attendees after the service.

 

[1&2&3]

IMPD has made pleas for help from the public. And they've remarked on the "outpouring of help" from the community. But, they also know that the information they need is most likely to be found in neighborhoods where residents are wary of LE. Captain Hite said as much. He also mentioned a Rev. Charles Harrison and others like him, who work the streets in those neighborhoods seeking information because they have a better chance of finding cooperation from the residents than LE officers. And I can almost guarantee that photos, or some form of specific details, i.e., a precise description of the hoodie, or the vehicle, is being shared with at least some of the people they're talking with. So, they're using the tactics that they know will be most effective.

The FBI and the State Police are assisting. There's nothing remarkable about that at all.

"The FBI and State Police have also promised they too will help IMPD solve the case."

http://fox59.com/2015/11/13/impd-ch...t-crime-in-city-and-amanda-blackburns-murder/

IMO, the risk of repercussions from flashing a picture of an average built AA man, with a hoodie pulled down over his face, is greater than the potential benefit. Like I said, the people who know this guy well enough to recognize his walk, or his jacket, are most likely not the people who are going to jump on the phone and call crime stoppers.

Captain Hite was asked why they wouldn't release the picture. His response: "Always remember this, it's not what you know, it's what you can prove. We want to be sure we have the right evidence, the right information. We don't want to lose this."

You can hear it at about 5:00 in this video.
http://www.wthr.com/clip/12000408/impd-chief-hite-on-blackburn-other-murders

JMO

I am confused! From the bolded text, is the Chief saying the picture is NOT that good as in helping to identify the perp?

What is the rest of the bolded sentence talking about?

 

[MJPeony]

I did not notice a coffin at the front. I'm sure the service will be posted online and I will rematch it to see. There were short clips from her family and friends, but I didn't see Davey or Weston or other family shown while there, but they did meet with attendees after the service.

Her coffin was there at the front. You couldn't see it for most of the service, but there was a camera pan at a point near the end where I realized it was there.