IN - Amanda Blackburn, 28, pregnant, murdered, Indianapolis, 10 Nov 2015 - #3

[steelman]

Hate to keep talking biblically, but that's old testament, again. Not new testament, which is the basis for Christianity.

"An eye for an eye" was actually an admonition to punish only to the level of the crime - that is, don't take a life over theft of a loaf of bread. An eye for an eye was Old Testament teachings to keep punishment from being extreme.

But again, old testament, so doesn't apply to Christians. Christians believe in turning the other cheek, 70 X 7 times, and let he who is without sin cast the first stone.

And I sincerely doubt that a phone conversation with you could convince the Blackburns and their church to abandon Christianity. ;D

It doesn't matter............these cockroaches need to be dead...........post haste. Nobody is going to rehabilitate these guys, and they have absolutely nothing to offer to society. Sending them to prison is simply going to harden them off even more than they already are.

This is one of those times when "sending a message"........is pretty much all we're going to accomplish.

 

[JeannaT]

Are we allowed to post this? This is clearly Diano Gordon's facebook page, although it's from a couple years ago. Sorry if it's already been posted.

I can't tell at all what he's usually talking about, except that he posts things about being upset about something. Don't know what it is. He's not speaking English. Apparently someone he really cares about is in jail. And also, he is on house arrest during this time a few years ago. I will say this, others who speak english do seem to understand what he's saying. It's a separate language, like Cockney is a separate language in England and can't be understood by outsiders.

https://www.facebook.com/RIP.LIL.NUK?fref=nf

 

[JeannaT]

It doesn't matter............these cockroaches need to be dead...........post haste. Nobody is going to rehabilitate these guys, and they have absolutely nothing to offer to society. Sending them to prison is simply going to harden them off even more than they already are.

This is one of those times when "sending a message"........is pretty much all we're going to accomplish.

While I would agree with you, that these very young men are beyond rehabilitation, I think you probably can't successfully pursue a death penalty punishment without the backing of the victim's family. I doubt they'd support that, but I could be wrong.

 

[heidisams]

I saw earlier there was an arrest, I've been at work, so I've got to go read and get caught up.... I just wanted to jump on and say Thank God these punks are off our streets. Thank God there are answers for Davey, Weston, and the entire family, I believe Amanda can rest now knowing the killers of her and her unborn child are caught and the world knows her husband is innocent. Thank God Weston was untouched, from what I know so far, he was only feet from seriously dangerous, inhumane monsters. Thank God for the IMPD's competence and compassion throughout all this, they exhausted themselves to bring these guys down for what they did to Amanda (and family). It affected them, it affected everyone... But. The world is a better place, four of our worst are off the streets...

And I really don't care if there was only one shooter, they all played a hand in her murder and I hope they're treated as such...

And... One more thing...I love this place, everyone here is so caring ( and smart :rocker: ), the threads are so full of information, the second anything happened and news was reported WS's picked it up. Great minds. Nothing gets past a Ws'er.... Thx bessie for keeping it all moving and inline, folks can get a little *compassionate* here at times... :wink: .... I know the case isn't over, I'm just so relieved this part seems to be getting some resolution...

All jmo.

 

[Ontario Mom]

We've got our own "Kill Gang" in this country..........sanctioned by the U.S. Constitution and the Supreme Court.

I see the arguments up there, and on previous pages, about her husband and family not wanting the death penalty due to religious reasons. Isn't there something in the Bible about "an eye for an eye" ?

Have 'em give me a call, I'll convince 'em.

There are plenty of Christians that are 100% DP. I'm one of them. I don't know if DB or AB's families are but either way, their wishes will be taken into consideration IF it goes that far.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

anyone have theories on how the shooting took place based on gunshot wound descriptions ?

Seems like 3 bullets were fired at minimum.

First was likely at left arm which might have been outstretched at him reaching at gun ?

Second might have been quickly followed as she went down ? -- in the back on a downward angle and went through her into the floor ? -- rules out the "execution" of the baby that some theorized and protecting baby with one hand and one bullet going through hand into abdomen.

Third was to the head.


Basing all this somewhat off what they say Taylor said. Although I don't think he states 3 shots, seemed like 2. But I can see if being rushed he might do 2 in quick succession ?

From what I remember they never said it was three shots fired but she sustained three separate injuries.

I do think it may have been only two shots fired and she put her hand in front of her tummy as a protective way to protect her unborn baby and I think one shot went through her hand and traveled on into her torso. It is some semblance of peace for me to know Amanda didn't just laydown for this or these monsters and die without a fight. I think she tried everything she could to charge at the shooter and was trying to take control of the gun. I think she feared if she didn't do something they would not only kill her but they would find Weston upstairs and kill him too. I wonder if they knew he was there or they bolted once she was shot in the head?

Its all so sad and so so senseless but like Bessie has said right here in this case......... there is no rhyme or reason when it comes to home invasions like this.

IMO

 

[DeDee]

I'd like to take this opportunity to thank everyone for their bright ideas, brilliant questions and humble opinions. The Amanda Blackburn threads have some of the most polite and courteous posts and it is appreciated.

More than that, I tip my favorite hat to our tireless leader, bessie :loveyou:. She was already answering questions before they were raised. bessie continuously supplied us with fact-based information. It meant so much for bessie to post right alongside us on this heartache of a case. I know I read every word she posted because she held the facts of these crimes and shared them with us throughout this horrific ordeal.

It is my prayer that many more lives are brought to know Jesus just as Amanda would want. I just can't imagine her lying there on the floor knowing her life was silently slipping away while Weston was out of her reach. Her baby daughter died with her that November day. May the SOB one day realize that he was looking at an angel while he watched her bleeding. May her family and friends be comforted by knowing Amanda is now with the great Comforter, Jesus Christ. May the future of Davey's ministry grow in love and friendship because, without love, we have nothing.

For Amanda and Evie :rose: :rose:

 

[MaxManning]

From what I remember they never said it was three shots fired but she sustained three separate injuries.

I do think it may have been only two and she put her hand in front of her tummy as a protective way to protect her unborn baby and I think one shot went through her hand and traveled on into her torso. It is some semblance of peace for me to know Amanda didn't just laydown for this or these monsters and die without a fight. I think she tried everything she could to charge at the shooter and was trying to take control of the gun. I think she feared if she didn't do something they would not only kill her but they would find Weston upstairs and kill him too. I wonder if they knew he was there or they bolted once she was shot in the head?

Its all so sad and so so senseless but like Bessie has said right here in this case......... there is no rhyme or reason when it comes to home invasions like this.

IMO

In one of the posts above I posted the bullet wound descriptions from the probable cause document. As I noted in that post, the hand over the belly theory seems to not fit the wounds. Also the bullet that went through her abdomen entered from the upper back heading downward.

There is also an account of what was reported the shooter said about the shooting, that i posted a little earlier.

 

[JeannaT]

There are plenty of Christians that are 100% DP. I'm one of them. I don't know if DB or AB's families are but either way, their wishes will be taken into consideration IF it goes that far.

I know that many people who identify as Christians are in favor of the death penalty, and are against welfare, but Jesus of Nazareth was against the death penalty and in favor of taking care of all our brothers and sisters, and giving all you have to the poor. So I think that's where the Blackburns and their church are coming from - they are asking, literally, What Would Jesus Do? He wouldn't impose the death penalty. He would not.

I struggle with this a lot. I am for the death penalty for evil, like with Kenneth McDuff who KEPT being let out of prison by the powers that be to continue to kill women, for God's sake kill that guy so he can be stopped.

BUT. I understand Biblical followers of Jesus who are against the death penalty, as Jesus was.

 

[snowboots]

On Fox right now, they are reporting that the trio tried to get into the house next door to the Blackburns also but couldn't get in.

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[bluesneakers]

Are we allowed to post this? This is clearly Diano Gordon's facebook page, although it's from a couple years ago. Sorry if it's already been posted.

I can't tell at all what he's usually talking about, except that he posts things about being upset about something. Don't know what it is. He's not speaking English. Apparently someone he really cares about is in jail. And also, he is on house arrest during this time a few years ago. I will say this, others who speak english do seem to understand what he's saying. It's a separate language, like Cockney is a separate language in England and can't be understood by outsiders.

Are you sure that's his? I think the page belongs to someone who misses "him" aka "Dloc."

I though Diano = Dloc?

eta: Oh heck. I don't know. I can't make sense of anything on that page.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

There are plenty of Christians that are 100% DP. I'm one of them. I don't know if DB or AB's families are but either way, their wishes will be taken into consideration IF it goes that far.

Me too OMon and I know a lot of Christians who do believe in the death penalty.

I am not sure that Davey wouldn't want the death penalty either.

I think he would. Just because he knows one day he must forgive this person never means he thinks he shouldn't get the death penalty. He knows God expects us to live by the law of the land.

Why I say this is in an article I read today where the other Pastor... who is very close to Davey... was complaining about how horribly Davey has been treated by outsiders and Fox who doesn't even know him etc.but....... Anyway in the same article he also said they want Amanda's killer to be punished to the fullest extent of the law which of course IS the death penalty. So if that Pastor believes in the death penalty I think Davey would too.

IMO

 

[Ontario Mom]

Hate to keep talking biblically, but that's old testament, again. Not new testament, which is the basis for Christianity.

"An eye for an eye" was actually an admonition to punish only to the level of the crime - that is, don't take a life over theft of a loaf of bread. An eye for an eye was Old Testament teachings to keep punishment from being extreme.

But again, old testament, so doesn't apply to Christians. Christians believe in turning the other cheek, 70 X 7 times, and let he who is without sin cast the first stone.

And I sincerely doubt that a phone conversation with you could convince the Blackburns and their church to abandon Christianity. ;D

I don't want this conversation to de-rail but since DB is a Christian and is the surviving victim in this very high profile "Christian pastor's wife murdered" case (Christian friends of mine - and probably everyone else's Christian friends are ALL talking about this via social media, I assure you) I think it's important to point out that not all Christians adhere to the same exact worldview on such things like the DP. Like-wise, not all Christians toss aside the OT (Old Testament) where "an eye for an eye" was originally taught, and adhere *only* to the NT (New Testament). Many Christians take the entire 66 books' teachings to heart as it shapes what they believe and why they believe it. OT being "the law" and why it was laid down the way it was and NT being the law fulfilled through grace in Jesus. (That's the short version, just to offer a little insight for those that may not know Christians do believe different things).

That said, I think the most important thing to come away with is the consideration LE gives the victim's family, to make their case for their wishes known, IF it gets to that point where the DP is on the table. I just think that's particularly awesome that they (LE) does this.

 

[MaxManning]

Are we allowed to post this? This is clearly Diano Gordon's facebook page, although it's from a couple years ago. Sorry if it's already been posted.

I can't tell at all what he's usually talking about, except that he posts things about being upset about something. Don't know what it is. He's not speaking English. Apparently someone he really cares about is in jail. And also, he is on house arrest during this time a few years ago. I will say this, others who speak english do seem to understand what he's saying. It's a separate language, like Cockney is a separate language in England and can't be understood by outsiders.

https://www.facebook.com/RIP.LIL.NUK?fref=nf

This page is clearly pictures of Diano Gordon, but It seems as if it was made to protest his jailing if you read the comments. I'm assuming his girlfriend is writing the comments as there is alot of talk about letting her other half out. The dates on the posts also seem to match up with when he was in prison. So seems doubtful he was the one doing the posting. imo

 

[QueenMictlan]

Are we allowed to post this? This is clearly Diano Gordon's facebook page, although it's from a couple years ago. Sorry if it's already been posted.

I can't tell at all what he's usually talking about, except that he posts things about being upset about something. Don't know what it is. He's not speaking English. Apparently someone he really cares about is in jail. And also, he is on house arrest during this time a few years ago. I will say this, others who speak english do seem to understand what he's saying. It's a separate language, like Cockney is a separate language in England and can't be understood by outsiders.

https://www.facebook.com/RIP.LIL.NUK?fref=nf

From counseling inmates I can tell you this is inmate talk, many talk like this. And the person posting seems to be Diano's girlfriend, unless he is a gay man because the person is talking about their man in prison and missing him.He or she says her man is in the hole, means he is in solitary confinement for getting in trouble in prison.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

On Fox right now, they are reporting that the trio tried to get into the house next door to the Blackburns also but couldn't get in.

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Now that information had to make those neighbors get weak kneed just thinking about that.

I keep thinking about the other home invasion where they came in and stole the woman's cell phone right off her own bed where she was sleeping and she never realized at the time that anyone was there. Shudder.

That just shows sometimes it is the luck of the draw and these kind of criminals can hit anywhere at anytime.

IMO

 

[Ontario Mom]

While I would agree with you, that these very young men are beyond rehabilitation, I think you probably can't successfully pursue a death penalty punishment without the backing of the victim's family. I doubt they'd support that, but I could be wrong.

During the presser today the first speaker (I didn't catch his name or title) did mention that there have been cases where the sentence handed down was actually inconsistent with the family's wishes. I can't even imagine what kind of cases or details factor into such things, but apparently it does happen.

 

[sumzero]

Hate to keep talking biblically, but that's old testament, again. Not new testament, which is the basis for Christianity.

"An eye for an eye" was actually an admonition to punish only to the level of the crime - that is, don't take a life over theft of a loaf of bread. An eye for an eye was Old Testament teachings to keep punishment from being extreme.

But again, old testament, so doesn't apply to Christians. Christians believe in turning the other cheek, 70 X 7 times, and let he who is without sin cast the first stone.

And I sincerely doubt that a phone conversation with you could convince the Blackburns and their church to abandon Christianity. ;D

Just a gentle FYI: The OT was the Bible for all the NT authors, including the one who wrote 2 Tim. 3:16. The rejection of the OT forms the basis of a second-century heretical teaching (i.e., Marcionism).

 

[Ontario Mom]

In one of the posts above I posted the bullet wound descriptions from the probable cause document. As I noted in that post, the hand over the belly theory seems to not fit the wounds. Also the bullet that went through her abdomen entered from the upper back heading downward.

There is also an account of what was reported the shooter said about the shooting, that i posted a little earlier.

Indeed, from the PC statement it seems the hand over belly speculation is ruled out. One injury to the arm, the other in the back, the fatal to the back of her head.

CLASSIC coward, he shot her in the back. Likely while standing over her, since it was a downward trajectory. :gaah:

 

[nerdgirl]

This page is clearly pictures of Diano Gordon, but It seems as if it was made to protest his jailing if you read the comments. I'm assuming his girlfriend is writing the comments as there is alot of talk about letting her other half out. The dates on the posts also seem to match up with when he was in prison. So seems doubtful he was the one doing the posting. imo

It makes my head hurt to try and read the posts.