IN IN - Amiah Robertson, 8 months, Indianapolis, 15 Mar 2019 #2

[bellesnwhistles]

I agree. In the "pink hearts" photo, Amiah looks maybe 3 months old imo.

She posted to her FB in September so she's definitely only a couple months in that pic

 

[AgeofAquaruis]

I'm really struggling here. Trying to understand in what universe anyone would wait a week to report their 8 month baby missing.
Can't wrap my head around that.

 

[kkdj]

I'm really struggling here. Trying to understand in what universe anyone would wait a week to report their 8 month baby missing.
Can't wrap my head around that.

Well....remember CA waited a month. Oh wait. She never did report her child missing....her mom did.

 

[kkdj]

Amiah Robertson: Divers search lake for evidence in case of 8-month-old missing baby

 

[margarita25]

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[Tgrl]

"Crews finished searching a pond on Indy's northwest side this afternoon but have not said whether they found any evidence in Amiah's disappearance. https://bit.ly/2FCf6bf

Police say they will check at least one other area of water and will continue to follow up on any leads to find the 8-mo-old." posted on SM for RTV6.
Searchers are now back at Eagle Creek area- more expanded area than last week, it seems

 

[MissMalowe]

I'm really struggling here. Trying to understand in what universe anyone would wait a week to report their 8 month baby missing.
Can't wrap my head around that.

The delay in reporting makes no sense any way I try to look at the situation; Police say RL was taunting mom about baby Amiah's whereabouts. Mom claims he said he would tell her if she would agree to be alone with him but she was too afraid to. What I gather from that information is that from around 3/10-3/16 she wasn't alone with him and he is either abusive, manipulating or had done something or made threats in order for her to fear him. Keeping that in mind, I'm STILL left wondering why she did not report this sooner, especially if she wasn't alone with him. She was either alone by herself or with other people; none of them ever asked about Amiah? None ever thought to phone police themselves? I just don't understand the disconnect here or what has been explained so far as being a credible or justified reason to not report it earlier.

It's amazing to me that police found out about this as basically a "sidenote" or "oh by the way...." to the call about the vehicular incident and leaving the scene of an accident.

Or am I misunderstanding the "relation" between these two incidents in terms of which came first and/or which one was ultimately deemed more necessary to involve police by the involved parties?

 

[CSIDreamer]

The delay in reporting makes no sense any way I try to look at the situation; Police say RL was taunting mom about baby Amiah's whereabouts. Mom claims he said he would tell her if she would agree to be alone with him but she was too afraid to. What I gather from that information is that from around 3/10-3/16 she wasn't alone with him and he is either abusive, manipulating or had done something or made threats in order for her to fear him. Keeping that in mind, I'm STILL left wondering why she did not report this sooner, especially if she wasn't alone with him. She was either alone by herself or with other people; none of them ever asked about Amiah? None ever thought to phone police themselves? I just don't understand the disconnect here or what has been explained so far as being a credible or justified reason to not report it earlier. It's amazing to me that police found out about this as basically a "sidenote" or "oh by the way...." to the call about the vehicular incident and leaving the scene of an accident.

Or am I misunderstanding the "relation" between these two incidents in terms of which came first and/or which one was fi deemed more necessary to involve police by the involved parties?

I'm right there with ya. I feel like all I've done for days is rant and rave.

 

[AgeofAquaruis]

The delay in reporting makes no sense any way I try to look at the situation; Police say RL was taunting mom about baby Amiah's whereabouts. Mom claims he said he would tell her if she would agree to be alone with him but she was too afraid to. What I gather from that information is that from around 3/10-3/16 she wasn't alone with him and he is either abusive, manipulating or had done something or made threats in order for her to fear him. Keeping that in mind, I'm STILL left wondering why she did not report this sooner, especially if she wasn't alone with him. She was either alone by herself or with other people; none of them ever asked about Amiah? None ever thought to phone police themselves? I just don't understand the disconnect here or what has been explained so far as being a credible or justified reason to not report it earlier. It's amazing to me that police found out about this as basically a "sidenote" or "oh by the way...." to the call about the vehicular incident and leaving the scene of an accident.

Or am I misunderstanding the "relation" between these two incidents as far as which came first or which one deemed more necessary to involve police?

None it makes sense.

 

[MrsWatson]

I've followed cases for many years. This has got to be in the top five of the messiest and most confusing.

And as with any child, so heartbreaking.

Time to sit on my hands.

 

[Kadoober]

I wonder if the 'evidence' of this taunting only came from the Steve Jefferson interview with Amber.
From that:

AR: I think he does. He keeps telling me that he does know where she is at, but he won’t release that information unless I’m with him alone. I don’t feel safe to be with him by myself.

The taunting is mentioned twice in Saturdays presser, the first time in the Detectives statement, where she simply says 'Since March 10th Robert Lyons has taunted Amber Robertson about Amiah’s whereabouts.'

Then a question is asked about the taunting, and the answer seems odd to me:


Q: I think you have made mention him taunting the mother a few times, what exactly does that mean?


LS: Well, I think that, through our investigation, we’ve come across some information that, uh, leads us to believe he has expressed that he knew where the child was, to the mother. And, um, but, never quite revealed that, so.. Um, that… that’s how we characterize it.

This doesn't sound to me as if they have any actual evidence of this taunting. They came across some info, that leads them to believe something that they have chosen to characterize as taunting.

This whole 'I don't feel safe with to be with him by myself' business felt flimsy when we thought the last time AR saw Amiah was a day, maybe two before she was beaten up and hit with a car. But now that we know that the last time she saw her was a full week prior? That makes no sense. Even if they were hanging out with a bunch of people - she had ample opportunity to say 'let's ditch these guys, take me to Amiah'

On the other hand - the black eye she was sporting during her first interview looked much older than a day or two, maybe she received it the 9th or 10th?

I don't know.

It really struck me how two people at the presser stated that the domestic incident on Saturday had nothing to do with Amiah.


LS: Um, I’m not real sure, I know he was released on a separate, unrelated charge, um, about 3 or 4 days ago.

And

J. Burkhardt: He was arrested on the 17th on a domestic related charge, based on that evidence having nothing to do with the, with what we’re talking about now.

I get the feeling that perhaps the presence of LH led to Law Enforcement being called regarding the domestic, and during that time either he or AR decided it was time to report Amiah missing.

For the record, Miss Malowe, I don't understand why she wasn't reported missing earlier either. I have ideas, but I understand none of them.

 

[osu]

"Crews finished searching a pond on Indy's northwest side this afternoon but have not said whether they found any evidence in Amiah's disappearance. https://bit.ly/2FCf6bf

Police say they will check at least one other area of water and will continue to follow up on any leads to find the 8-mo-old." posted on SM for RTV6.
Searchers are now back at Eagle Creek area- more expanded area than last week, it seems

I checked RTV-6 and the other article but can’t find where it says searchers have went back to Eagle Creek today. I checked Twitter also. Maybe they’ve removed the location?

 

[JustJes]

The delay in reporting makes no sense any way I try to look at the situation; Police say RL was taunting mom about baby Amiah's whereabouts. Mom claims he said he would tell her if she would agree to be alone with him but she was too afraid to. What I gather from that information is that from around 3/10-3/16 she wasn't alone with him and he is either abusive, manipulating or had done something or made threats in order for her to fear him. Keeping that in mind, I'm STILL left wondering why she did not report this sooner, especially if she wasn't alone with him. She was either alone by herself or with other people; none of them ever asked about Amiah? None ever thought to phone police themselves? I just don't understand the disconnect here or what has been explained so far as being a credible or justified reason to not report it earlier.

It's amazing to me that police found out about this as basically a "sidenote" or "oh by the way...." to the call about the vehicular incident and leaving the scene of an accident.

Or am I misunderstanding the "relation" between these two incidents in terms of which came first and/or which one was fi deemed more necessary to involve police by the involved parties?

I think he was telling her different locations for where the baby was, including an address that didn’t exist. She might have believed him or at that time still trusted him with the baby. Definitely not a decision most of us would make with a child. I think she leans towards being...naive where men are concerned or too trusting of what she is told. MOO, of course.

 

[margarita25]

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[sasha17]

I think he was telling her different locations for where the baby was, including an address that didn’t exist. She might have believed him or at that time still trusted him with the baby. Definitely not a decision most of us would make with a child. I think she leans towards being...naive where men are concerned or too trusting of what she is told. MOO, of course.

I think we're also missing information about their usual routine. Was it normal for RL to take care of the baby for days at a time? I'm also still not clear whether the baby lived with mom full time or if the baby spent some of her time with RL. If they had a shared custody arrangement, even an informal one, where the baby was with RL and/or his family some of the time, it might not have alarmed mom for awhile when she didn't see the baby for some days in a row. JMO!

 

[Kadoober]

I don't understand this whole babysitter thing either - it was stated in the presser that the babysitter saw RL with Amiah at the babysitters home in the 200 block of S. Homes at 1:15PM 3/9.

RL is then gone for just shy of 9 hours. Returns back, presumably to the 200 block of S. Holmes, Amber agrees that Amiah can stay the night at the babysitters.

Wouldn't she want to go say goodnight to her, since she was right there? How many seconds would it take to confirm her presence? I have considered that perhaps when he met back up with Amber it was elsewhere (the 'other' location), but Detective Burkhardt said that he returned back to the mother, without Amiah. Which sounds to me as if he went back to where he had left her, the 200 block of S. Holmes. The babysitters house. This is from a previously prepared statement that Detective Burkhardt made for the presser.

Am I the only one that think this (like every other thing in this case) stinks?

 

[lisa122473]

Problem is there are no do-overs....poor Amiah

 

[haven71]

The delay in reporting makes no sense any way I try to look at the situation; Police say RL was taunting mom about baby Amiah's whereabouts. Mom claims he said he would tell her if she would agree to be alone with him but she was too afraid to. What I gather from that information is that from around 3/10-3/16 she wasn't alone with him and he is either abusive, manipulating or had done something or made threats in order for her to fear him. Keeping that in mind, I'm STILL left wondering why she did not report this sooner, especially if she wasn't alone with him. She was either alone by herself or with other people; none of them ever asked about Amiah? None ever thought to phone police themselves? I just don't understand the disconnect here or what has been explained so far as being a credible or justified reason to not report it earlier. It's amazing to me that police found out about this as basically a "sidenote" or "oh by the way...." to the call about the vehicular incident and leaving the scene of an accident.

Or am I misunderstanding the "relation" between these two incidents in terms of which came first and/or which one was fi deemed more necessary to involve police by the involved parties?

I think AR has definitely been abused and manipulated, not to mention tormented.

But you bring up a good point for sure. Why didn’t anyone else contact authorities about Amiah? Did AR keep what was really going on under wraps during that time period? Not wanting anyone know how she was being treated by RL and expecting each day that it might be the day he stopped taunting and would give the baby back?

I wish we knew so much more about the habits and custody arrangements of all involved. We don’t even know if AR had custody of Amiah, but we do know she had access to her and made decisions about her. We still don’t know for sure if they lived in a car or a shack. It seems LH is the recognized father of Amiah. Do they fully share custody? Does AR have any custody of her son? How often did she need a babysitter? Is it unusual for her to leave her baby overnight at the sitter’s home?

I’ve also been wondering where AR was when RL returned at 10 pm without the baby on the 9th. Was she in the shed? Because the shed is right next to the sitter’s. If so sounds like she could’ve easily checked on the baby after she got “home” or picked her up herself.

Perhaps AR sometimes stays in the shed, but shuttles around maybe couch surfing (with baby or without?). Idk.

I really wish we knew if LH played a significant role in Mia’s life. It appears he takes care of their son but not so much Amiah? I guess if there’s a custody dispute maybe he didn’t bond much or feel much responsibility for taking care of Mia. Total speculation here.

Oh, was LH out of town during both timelines (the 9th and the 15/16)? For all we know maybe he normally has custody of Amiah most of the time? But on the phone interview he said all the right things about missing Amiah but didn’t seem emotional nor freaking out much. It would seem if he was Amiah’s Primary caregiver he’d be all over the media begging for answers. I’m not suggesting he was involved in any way, I’m just trying to figure out if he played a big role with Amiah or if he just let AR take over caring for her. Surely he knows the dire living situation of AR though?

Sorry this is so long, maybe some of you have thoughts on these issues (or even better...links!) to clarify. I guess I’m frustrated and mostly thinking out loud here.

 

[kath4557]

What the heck? Yeah, I'll go with heck. There are so many more appropriate words for this situation, but I don't feel like being banned. Did RL sell this baby on Craigslist or something? Kinda joking, kinda not. He looks like a meth-head. That would make a person sell his own soul, right? So why not a baby?

 

[margarita25]

@RussMcQuaidNews
Crews with search dog probe wet wooded areas on southwest side in missing baby amiah investigation with no success

Link please, tia.

Divers enter the water at mariners village and pebble point Apts after unsuccessful Sunday night search called off by darkness in missing baby Amiah Robertson case

8:39 AM - 25 Mar 2019

Link please, tia.