Identified! IN - Angola, WhtFem, 180UFIN, 30-50, Pachuco Cross tattoo, Sept 1999 - Tina Cabanaw

[gardenmom]

Well, it certainly sounds like you could be onto something here. Have you forwarded this information to authoritites. Is there DNA evidense that was collected that can be compared? Good job!

 

[Love_Mama]

Hi.......just finished reading this thread and think that Linda is probably right!
I had no idea that there are Truckers...........who do this kind of thing...don't know much about trucker's at all.

Also......haven't heard the word "pachuco" since the early fifties when I was in High School. Like El Paso, I too live on the Mexican border and Mexican's were alway's call "pachucos"......and they were the one's who hung out together seldom making friend's with the other kids. They were the "tough' guys.

Heck, I never heard of a gang in High School but that was so many year's ago. I'm sure they did have gang's, just never heard about them. I granduated from San Diego High School and it was a real mixture of White, Hispanic, Black.......and more so than any other High School here.

Whether or not she was a prostitute or not.......I sure hope they can identify her.

xxxxxxxxxxxoooooo
mama

 

[Dark Knight]

Well, it certainly sounds like you could be onto something here. Have you forwarded this information to authoritites. Is there DNA evidense that was collected that can be compared? Good job!

Thanks! Yes, I faxed the info to LE last night. Haven't heard anything from them, so hopefully they got it.

 

[gardenmom]

I just heard about his arrest on court tv and they did say that they would be testing his DNA to unsolved cases. Hopefully your victim will be itentified or at least her killer will be caught.

 

[Dark Knight]

The Detective with the Indiana State Police who is handling this case was given all the information I posted about regarding the alleged serial killer trucker that was arrested and the similarities in the cases, plus the Lucky Star watch connection. The officer I gave it to found it VERY interesting, and said it might just be the suspect! Praise the Lord if he is!

I will let y'all know what becomes of it, if anything. Thanks for ALL the great tips and input! It is VERY appreciated!

Justice always!!!!

 

[WasBlind]

B-U-M-P

Prayers for identification and answers for her family.
With love and HOPE, Lanie

 

[Trino]

It would seem that tracing the watch's origin might provide some info about where she came from or where she's been. It doesn't seem that difficult to do with today's technology.

 

[mysteriew]

The most recent killing appears to be Jennifer Hyman, 24, of Oklahoma City, last seen at an Oklahoma City truck stop. Hyman, a prostitute, was found nude and strangled below a Tallahatchie River bridge near Oxford, Miss. on Aug.

Authorities say John Williams[pictured] and Rachel Cumberland[pictured] of Carthage, Mississippi, have pleaded guilty in the kidnapping and death of a Mississippi woman and are suspects in the truck stop killings. The two are being held without bond.

Williams and Cumberland are due in court next week on kidnapping and murder charges in the death of Jennifer Hyman of Oklahoma City. Hyman's body was found August 20th, 2003, in Lafayette County, Tennessee. She had been strangled.

Mississippi Public Safety Commissioner George Phillips says he can't say they were responsible for all the killings of the truck stop prostitutes, but he says lawmen believe there is a link.

http://www.kotv.com/main/home/stories.asp?whichpage=1&id=86366

 

[mysteriew]

"I wouldn't go so far as to say that they were responsible for all of those murders, but we do believe that there is a link," Mississippi Commissioner of Public Safety George Phillips said Friday at a news conference in Oxford.

Law enforcement officials from five states, including Mississippi, have been investigating killings that date back to 2003 in which truck stops were the common thread.

Authorities said six of seven victims included in the investigation were prostitutes. The prostitutes were found nude or partially clothed.

At least four victims were last seen at a truck stop, and at least three were strangled, authorities said. The bodies were found near highways and creeks in Oklahoma, Arkansas, Texas and Mississippi.

"We are exploring the possibilities of unsolved murders," Phillips said.

http://www.sunherald.com/mld/thesunherald/news/local/12090442.htm

 

[mysteriew]

One thing is certain: many of the known victims were Native American and most are believed to have worked as prostitutes. Casey Jo Pipestem is one example. A passing motorist discovered the nude body of Pipestem, 19, on January 31 in the Texas town of Grapevine. Officials say she was choked to death and her body then dumped from a bridge. Pipestem was a member of the Seminole Tribe.

At least four victims were last seen at a truck stop, and at least three were strangled. Some were also sexually assaulted. The bodies were found near highways and creeks in Arkansas, Mississippi, Oklahoma, Texas and Indiana

A Mississippi long-haul truck driver and his girlfriend emerged as suspects Friday in the January 2004 slaying of Casey Jo Pipestem, a 19-year-old prostitute whose body was found in Grapevine.

The couple, who have been in Mississippi jails nearly a year, are also suspected in the slayings of women who were kidnapped from truck stops in various parts of the country, tortured and raped, police said.

"We are very optimistic we have identified the people responsible for the death of Casey Jo Pipestem," Grapevine police Sgt. Bob Murphy said Friday.

John Robert Williams, 29, and his girlfriend, Rachel Cumberland, 36, pleaded guilty Tuesday to charges in connection with the slaying of a Mississippi woman kidnapped from a gambling resort.

Ted Underwood of Seminole, Okla., Pipestem's uncle, said his family was planning a February memorial service after Grapevine Detective Cpl. Larry Hallmark said he had few leads. But Hallmark said producers of the television show America's Most Wanted wanted to attend the service.

The June 4 episode generated about 70 tips, and one from a relative of Williams' helped Grapevine police connect Pipestem's death to the couple.

http://www.dfw.com/mld/dfw/news/12094551.htm

 

[Dark Knight]

A Mississippi long-haul truck driver and his girlfriend emerged as suspects Friday in the January 2004 slaying of Casey Jo Pipestem, a 19-year-old prostitute whose body was found in Grapevine.

The couple, who have been in Mississippi jails nearly a year, are also suspected in the slayings of women who were kidnapped from truck stops in various parts of the country, tortured and raped, police said.

"We are very optimistic we have identified the people responsible for the death of Casey Jo Pipestem," Grapevine police Sgt. Bob Murphy said Friday.

John Robert Williams, 29, and his girlfriend, Rachel Cumberland, 36, pleaded guilty Tuesday to charges in connection with the slaying of a Mississippi woman kidnapped from a gambling resort.

Ted Underwood of Seminole, Okla., Pipestem's uncle, said his family was planning a February memorial service after Grapevine Detective Cpl. Larry Hallmark said he had few leads. But Hallmark said producers of the television show America's Most Wanted wanted to attend the service.

The June 4 episode generated about 70 tips, and one from a relative of Williams' helped Grapevine police connect Pipestem's death to the couple.

http://www.dfw.com/mld/dfw/news/12094551.htm

Wow!!!! The similarities are amazing, including the casino connection. I feel that my Jane Does Lucky Star watch is from the Oklahoma casino. I need to find someone in OK to send the link from our Jane Doe to them and ask them to look into it. Local LE haven't said a word about the evidence I sent them last year, so who knows if they ever took it seriously, despite always telling the media how much they want to solve it. But LE in OK might be even more interested. Thanks for the info!!!!!

 

[mysteriew]

In Oklahoma, authorities said investigators plan to travel to Mississippi to question Williams, said Jessica Brown, spokeswoman for the Oklahoma State Bureau of Investigation.

"This is very encouraging for OSBI," Brown said. "We're hopeful this man can give us some answers to the cases we're investigating from Oklahoma and others."

Authorities believe more than a single individual is responsible for the multistate string of killings.

"We've never thought it was just one person," she said.

Officials in Yukon, Okla., on the western edge of the Oklahoma City metropolitan area, are considering charges against the pair in the kidnapping and murder of Samantha Patrick, 22, of Oklahoma City.

On Tuesday, Williams pleaded guilty in Neshoba County Circuit Court to the kidnapping and murder of Nikki Hill, 28, of Shuqulak. Her body was found July 18, 2004, off a Neshoba County road near Mississippi 16 West in Philadelphia. She appeared to have been shot several times.

Williams was sentenced to life plus 20 years on the charges. Cumberland on Tuesday pleaded guilty to manslaughter in Hill's death and received a 20-year sentence, Phillips said.

Phillips said Williams was arrested in Pearl on Aug. 17, 2004, by Mississippi Bureau of Investigation agents and Neshoba County deputies. Cumberland was arrested shortly before then in Pearl, authorities say. http://www.picayuneitem.com/articles/2005/07/10/news/12slaying.txt

 

[Richard]

I wonder if these murders and disappearances might be related to the Rosa Doe case? See separate thread this forum...

--------------------------------------------------------------
Unidentified White Female AKA: Rosa Doe
The victim was discovered on May 21, 2003 in Northern Hancock County, Mississippi
Estimated Date of Death: 3 days - 3 weeks
Vital Statistics
Estimated age: 32 - 42 years old
Approximate Height and Weight: 5’1” - 5’4".
Dentals: Extensive Dental work including crowns and porcelain veneers.
Clothing: Her clothing had been burned off. Jewerly: two gold bands on her right hand, and on her left thumb, she wore a silver-tone “heart” shaped ring with a hollowed-out center.
AKA: Rosa Doe
Case History
The victim was located in the Nasa Buffer Zone area of Northern Hancock County, Mississippi on May 21, 2003.
Investigators believe it is possible that she was a transient & this was a drug deal gone bad. The area is known to have transients and crack addicts. She had been seen at truck stops around the I-10 & I-12 area of Louisiana. Unlike most addicts, at one point in her life, she had spent a lot of money on dental work including crowns and porcelain veneers.
It is possible that she was killed either in Louisiana or Pearl River County, MS and was brought to Santa Rosa for disposal.
Three possible suspects have been interviewed regarding the death of "Rosa Doe" , but no charges have been made against anyone yet.
The Doe Network: Case File 414UFMS
Agency Case Number: 03-07192
NCIC Number: U-350004590
If you have any information about this case please contact: Hancock County Sheriff's Office, Investigator Rita Blaize-Watson 228-467-0325
Source Information:
Hancock County Sheriff's Office
Link:
http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/414ufms.html

 

[gatetrekker44]

it does not appear to be something that was mass-produced. Rather, something that was hand-crafted-possibly on an Indian reservation. I wear a lot of silver/turquoise jewelry, and the designs appear to be American Indian influenced. It also appears that she had the ring a long time-since silver is a "soft" metal, prolonged wear of silver rings tends to make them take on the individual shape of the person's finger. Has anyone tried showing the ring to an American Indian? They may be able to shed some light on some of the symbols on the ring.


Bring Maura home!

 

[Dark Knight]

it does not appear to be something that was mass-produced. Rather, something that was hand-crafted-possibly on an Indian reservation. I wear a lot of silver/turquoise jewelry, and the designs appear to be American Indian influenced. It also appears that she had the ring a long time-since silver is a "soft" metal, prolonged wear of silver rings tends to make them take on the individual shape of the person's finger. Has anyone tried showing the ring to an American Indian? They may be able to shed some light on some of the symbols on the ring.


Bring Maura home!

Thanks for the terrific insight!!!! Much appreciated.

Since I need to e-mail the link and info, I am having trouble finding the right authorities in Oklahoma that even HAVE e-mails. It's driving me batty, lol!

 

[mysteriew]

At least eight other similar murders are being investigated to see if they can be linked to the pair, and Oklahoma authorities have said they will travel to Mississippi to question Williams.

A date for the Lafayette County case has not been set.

http://www.djournal.com/pages/story.asp?ID=197198&pub=1&div=News

 

[mysteriew]

Thanks for the terrific insight!!!! Much appreciated.

Since I need to e-mail the link and info, I am having trouble finding the right authorities in Oklahoma that even HAVE e-mails. It's driving me batty, lol!

Try contacting the reporters who wrote the associated articles. They may be able to give you contact info on the proper LE who are handling the cases.

 

[Dark Knight]

*bumping*

 

[Marie]

I don't know if anyone is still watching this thread but here's a little information about the items found with her and the tattoo.

The tattoo (as mentioned before) is a popular tattoo among Hispanics called the pachuco cross. This cross is surrounded by three small rays or dashes and is placed on the hand crease between the thumb and forefinger. Rich in religious meaning, the cross symbolizes the death and resurrection while the three rays represent each of the Trinity – Father, Son and Holy Ghost.

Of course this woman's tattoo was found on her shoulder, not on her hand. But I'm wondering if they've identified her race as Mexican/Hispanic? The FBI website says White, but I wonder.

I found a reference on the web to a Tom Redmond winning a Lucky Star watch in August 2004 as a door prize at the Glendale Coin Club- www.glencoin.com. The door prizes were purchased from a dealer called Coins Plus in Newhall, CA - http://www.coinsplus.net/ It may be worth calling to find out more about this door prize watch: 818 362-6566

There is a Lucky Star's brand watch from an estate sale on Ebay - link
It does not look like the one found with the body and does not show a photo of the back (I've written the seller asking for a photo), but Lucky Star is on the front and I can see in the photo's of Jane Doe's watch that there is writing but can't read it.

 

[Marie]

I now have a photo of the back of the Ebay watch - it looks identical. The seller did not know much about Lucky Star watches but had this to say:

" We have had about 3 or 4 of this brand and they all seem to be of good quality. All of them have a dome crystal that will focus light like a spotlight on the dial. Like I said, I really don't know anything about this brand except that they are nice watches with better than average quality and workmanship."

So, if that's true about the quality then what was she doing with such a watch?