IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 - #1

[Ven]

IMO they are focusing on the two males and only the two males.

Just my opinion.

 

[cluciano63]

Sadly, I guess, I don't think this will be the case of a stranger abduction. Sadly, because I feel someone she knows/knew harmed her and that LE is honing in on that.

 

[Daisyjane]

http://www.fox59.com/news/crime/wxin-lauren-spierer-search-expands-beyond-bloomington-for-missing-iu-student-20110608,0,7954746.story

Bloomington, Ind.— Bloomington Police Lt. Bill Parker addressed the media in a news conference Wednesday on the disappearance of missing Indiana University student Lauren Spierer. Lt. Parker said the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children is joining in the search. Police are continuing to follow up on leads and are interviewing several of Lauren's friends and family members.

Lt. Parker explained why police needed to make forced entry at the Smallwood Plaza apartments Tuesday night. Parker said police needed to obtain video footage from surveillance cameras. Police had a search warrant but were denied access so they made forced entry. Parker said Lauren Spierer was seen coming into the building and going back out around 2:40 a.m. Friday. She left with another person who police are not identifying. Parker said there was no evidence of any tampering with the video.

Lt. Parker also said police have spoken with two people who saw her in the early morning hours. Lauren apparently told a man she wanted to go home and the man watched her walk away. Parker said Lauren was not forced. He would not indicate if Spierer was targeted.

"We are working on polygraphs now," Lt. Parker said.

During the search Tuesday, a purse was found but police say the purse is not Spierer's, but it was actually related to a separate homicide that occurred Tuesday on the west side of Bloomington.

The search enters day six with still no solid leads. Lt. Parker said the search will now expand beyond the Bloomington city limits.

"Everyone in City of Bloomington has been terrific. These people are really incredible to come out and search, we certainly need all the help we can get," said Lauren's father, Robert Spierer.

Police also mentioned they are now getting help from America's Most Wanted.

"We are getting a lot of tips in and have a lot of items to look for. The Bloomington Police Department is committed to finding Lauren. Any case like that we do what we can do," said Parker.

 

[cluciano63]

Wow, it was NOT her purse, but belonged to another homicide victim??

 

[kissdegirl]

http://www.fox59.com/news/crime/wxin-lauren-spierer-search-expands-beyond-bloomington-for-missing-iu-student-20110608,0,7954746.story

Bloomington, Ind.— Bloomington Police Lt. Bill Parker addressed the media in a news conference Wednesday on the disappearance of missing Indiana University student Lauren Spierer. Lt. Parker said the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children is joining in the search. Police are continuing to follow up on leads and are interviewing several of Lauren's friends and family members.

Lt. Parker explained why police needed to make forced entry at the Smallwood Plaza apartments Tuesday night. Parker said police needed to obtain video footage from surveillance cameras. Police had a search warrant but were denied access so they made forced entry. Parker said Lauren Spierer was seen coming into the building and going back out around 2:40 a.m. Friday. She left with another person who police are not identifying. Parker said there was no evidence of any tampering with the video.

Lt. Parker also said police have spoken with two people who saw her in the early morning hours. Lauren apparently told a man she wanted to go home and the man watched her walk away. Parker said Lauren was not forced. He would not indicate if Spierer was targeted.

"We are working on polygraphs now," Lt. Parker said.

During the search Tuesday, a purse was found but police say the purse is not Spierer's, but it was actually related to a separate homicide that occurred Tuesday on the west side of Bloomington.

The search enters day six with still no solid leads. Lt. Parker said the search will now expand beyond the Bloomington city limits.

"Everyone in City of Bloomington has been terrific. These people are really incredible to come out and search, we certainly need all the help we can get," said Lauren's father, Robert Spierer.

Police also mentioned they are now getting help from America's Most Wanted.

"We are getting a lot of tips in and have a lot of items to look for. The Bloomington Police Department is committed to finding Lauren. Any case like that we do what we can do," said Parker.

Wow, denied access WITH a search warrant. Now why would the apts do that?!

Also, she was seen leaving this building at 2:40am. Is this the same place she left that one of the males said he watched her leave at around 4am? TIA

 

[cluciano63]

Wow, denied access WITH a search warrant. Now why would the apts do that?!

Also, she was seen leaving this building at 2:40am. Is this the same place she left that one of the males said he watched her leave at around 4am? TIA

No, I believe this refers to her own apartment building, where she went inside, but not to her apartment, and then left and went to another building, apparently to visit a different male friend, if I am not mistaken.

 

[Ven]

Maybe phone records could help with that aspect of it all.
Probably went home but before she got inside she gets a phone call from someone and decides to go see them.
Just one theory why she would get to the building but not go into her apartment.

Of course I'm assuming the video shows her leaving the building voluntarily at 2:40 a.m.

 

[marie-chantal]

I have a friend whose daughter is going to transfer to IU. I will tell them NOT to even consider Smallwood Plaza as a place for their daughter to live. It disgusts me that they would be so uncooperative. Whomever is in charge of that place needs to be fired ASAP. They should be ashamed of themselves.

 

[cluciano63]

I would imagine a lot of parents of college-age girls are cringing as the details of Lauren's travels that night are coming out...so scary and she was so vulnerable.

 

[ellehill]

Maybe phone records could help with that aspect of it all.
Probably went home but before she got inside she gets a phone call from someone and decides to go see them.
Just one theory why she would get to the building but not go into her apartment.

Of course I'm assuming the video shows her leaving the building voluntarily at 2:40 a.m.

She left her cell phone at Kilroys so she would not have been able to receive a phone call.

 

[marie-chantal]

She left her cell phone at Kilroys so she would not have been able to receive a phone call.

True, but there is always the chance that she borrowed someone's phone in order to call her phone to see if it was nearby (I do this whenever I can't find my phone).

 

[WideOpen]

She lost her shoes, her phone and later her keys. I'd say they went to her apartment and she soon realized she did not have the keys. That is why they left. They probably headed back to the other apartments and when she finally sobered up just enough it occured to her to wake her room mates up to get in. Such a sad series of events. No phone to call anyone to help her.
JMO

 

[Ven]

She left her cell phone at Kilroys so she would not have been able to receive a phone call.

Someone could have called the friend's phone?

They were probably heavily intoxicated, and people like that don't think rationally, so it's possible she was wandering aimlessly as well.
Kind of like: "I'm going home ..." and then ALL OF A SUDDEN "omg I wanna go see so and so ..." and off she goes.

 

[kissdegirl]

Someone could have called the friend's phone?

They were probably heavily intoxicated, and people like that don't think rationally, so it's possible she was wandering aimlessly as well.
Kind of like: "I'm going home ..." and then ALL OF A SUDDEN "omg I wanna go see so and so ..." and off she goes.

I wonder too if she could have been drugged or just severely intoxicated. Whatever the circumstances surround her actions that night, I do believe 1 of the 2 guys she was with that late holds the key. Guy 1 got jealous that she was going to see guy 2, or vice versa. Guy 2 was jealous she had been out with guy 1.

The apts refusal to comply with the search warrant is quite interesting to me. I wonder if either of the guys has any relation to the apt complex's owner?

 

[WideOpen]

I work in an environment as a driver where I come into contact with lots of young people who are or have been drinking. I live in a vacation area and college town. Most groups of kids that go out together return together 99.9% of the time. They do seem to watch out for each other and there are usually 1 or 2 pretty sober ones in the group. But, when a woman or man has drank so much and become separated from the group they become much more vulnerable and it is scary for me to see how their brains are just not functioning. I have had women who had men preying upon them and it is very creepy. I always get very protective over drunk women. Age, class, socio-economic background doesn't discriminate-creeps are creeps.

Who did she go out with that night? Were the "friends" she ended up with people who were preying on her as an easy target? Had she been slipped a date rape drug? There are still many unanswered questions. I'd guess these friends were not friends at all. So tragic. Praying for this family
JMO

 

[ellehill]

I agree they need to look at the phone records of all the people she was with that night and maybe that will confirm locations/times (cell tower hits)...and hopefully they are already doing that. I also wonder if her boyfriend knew the guys she was hanging out with that night (friend 1 & friend 2).

 

[kissdegirl]

http://nancygrace.blogs.cnn.com/201...rant-at-missing-student’s-apartment-building/

"Spierer was last seen around 4:30 am on June 3 walking away from an apartment building at 11th and Morton Streets in Bloomington a few blocks from her home after going to a bar with friends the night before. An acquaintance saw her walk toward the intersection of 11th Street and College Avenue, but police have said surveillance cameras at the Smallwood Plaza apartment complex where she lives do not show her arriving.

Parker said officers were looking for copies of security camera footage from that night when they broke through the doors at Smallwood Plaza Tuesday. He did not know why they were initially denied access, but he added that Smallwood personnel have been cooperative since. He explained that they obtained the search warrant because private businesses commonly want official paperwork before turning over evidence and that was “perfectly normal.”

In a statement provided to the Herald-Times newspaper, a representative for the building’s management stated that nobody with a key was available on-site when police arrived to serve the warrant...

Parker said police do have video of Spierer entering Smallwood around 2:40 am on June 3 with a friend and then exiting 10 minutes later, although she did not go into her own apartment while she was there. They believe she and the friend then walked to the building at 11th and Morton where other friends lived.

Authorities are still examining the recordings, but Parker said, “We did not see indications on that video that she was being forced.”
...
Investigators have obtained some evidence of value, but Parker would not specify what has been collected."

 

[Inspector Gidget]

Sadly, I guess, I don't think this will be the case of a stranger abduction. Sadly, because I feel someone she knows/knew harmed her and that LE is honing in on that.

I agree because it didn't take them long to call foul play.We also don't know if these people she was with did drugs or not and they could have gave her something that led to her demise.Thus the reason for lying and not calling the police.I still wonder if she just met these guys at the bar.Sad to say but with tiny girls it doesn't take much to get them completely intoxicated and I have seen myself females say and do things I would never imagine they could do.Alcohol can completely change your personality and hinder your thinking.What is so bad if you have no one sober with you to look out for you.You can easily become some perps dream as they are watching you get drunker and drunker.I do know this, as a server you can refuse a customer if you think they have had to much to drink That is the ABC law,but it also says under 21 is a not allowed .It is not had to spot a fake ID at all.The space between the eyes is one giveaway.It varies and you can tell if you do it enough.I know it's all about the money,but they could get shut down and lose a lot more if they get caught selling to a minor.
I think because it is a college bar they overlook it.JMO

 

[SmoothOperator]

Have been following this thread and any news on Lauren since news Of her disappearance first broke.. Lots of very good thoughts/theories/opinions on the elements involved in her disappearing..

Also wanted to say that I really appreciate those we have posting here that are IU alumni and know not only these exact areas and places being discussed but even more insight into the actual goings ons that took place that night and early morning hours Of Friday(meaning their personal experiences going out in this college town, partying in the same exact places, streets, homes, and areas that Lauren was at).. Thank you all for joining us here and offering us your personal knowledge and experiences.. It is greatly appreciated

Just a couple thoughts..

The purse and keys.. A few posts ^ upthread ^ someone was theorizing that upon Lauren's setting out alone, barefoot for her walk home that she would have have most likely fairly quickly realized that she'd left her purse and keys to get into her apt.. Thus she wouldve headed back to friends house to retrieve these items.. And mentioned her possibly cutting thru an alleyway as a shortcut back to the friends house..

This confused me a little about this particular theory.. Maybe I missed it.. Have we been told that she at some point after having left the home to walk to her apt that she had initially left her purse and keys and so Lauren actually came back to the home to retrieve these items before once again heading out on foot to her apt?? And she then disappeared at this point??

I wasn't aware of this..that she'd had to return to retrieve these items????? Could someone clarify this for me? If this is true on which trip home did the male friend witness her walking to the corner of 11th?? The first time she left? Or when she left again with purse and keys??

I was under the impression she left the friends home one single time.. And assumed she had her purse and keys when she left and was witnessed by the male friemd to walk as far as to the corner of 11th.. This being last time she was seen.. Male friend being the last person to have seen Lauren.. And that her purse and keys were found to be somewhere along this route between the friends home and her apt...this was my understanding..

So, if I could please get this clarified about which is accurate account of what we k ow to have occurred in those early morning hours..

TIA

 

[history girl]

Hi folks, I apologize if this is a duplicate link, I'm still working through all the posts, but the Indiana Daily Student has had good coverage of the case and articles are free, unlike the Herald Times. It was reported today that the entire city has been searched and they are expanding the search. They are also going to continue to search the city.

http://www.idsnews.com/

ETA: The Herald Times has made access to the stories about Lauren free. www.hoosiertimes.com