IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 - #1

[epiphany]

So, this is on her final way home from the friend's apt building?:

Parker did say police have found an image of Spierer on tape from a security camera in an alley. It showed her with someone else walking from a friend’s apartment to her apartment, Strong said.

http://www.indystar.com/article/201...er-case?odyssey=tab|topnews|text|IndyStar.com

 

[curiousgirl2010]

I really dont think it was CR, but hiring an attorney always makes someone seems a little fishy to me. Any reason why he would need a lawyer? Maybe because he was drinking under the age of 21 and involved in a fight? Still, hiring a lawyer makes me a little more hinky to me, even though I think he's not directly involved in her disapearance.

 

[kissdegirl]

Let me get this straight...clear as mud, right? OK. Just making sure I got it right. ullhair:

 

[blazelet]

(From local TV)

The owners of Smallwood Plaza are now offering $17,500 reward money.

Police say the tip leading them to Lake Monroe was anonymous but very specific and credible enough to act on.

 

[curiousgirl2010]

We all drank all the time when I was in college, probably more than we did anything else, but I don't recall a single fight breaking out...either times have changed or I was very lucky. This sounds like one violent night.

My guy friends from my hometown always get involved in fights when they drink too much. It's terrible. That's why the altercation doesn't seem strange to me. The girl's dissapearance does though...

 

[kimmypie1]

Just a few thoughts as I am reading thru posts getting caught up from early this morning...

Re:
Thoughts on this being similar to Yeardley case.. That Laurens boyfriend was waiting for her at her apt when she came home and there was a fight..

Lauren never made it home. And even stopping by her apts earlier with male friend She did not ever make it to her apt to even get shoes.. Lauren had Roomates that were home and knew that she never came home at all that night or morning..

So we do know for certain she never was back at her apt..


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She never made it into her apartment building yes, but her BF -or someone else entirely could have been waiting for her outside of the apartment building.

 

[kissdegirl]

I really dont think it was CR, but hiring an attorney always makes someone seems a little fishy to me. Any reason why he would need a lawyer? Maybe because he was drinking under the age of 21 and involved in a fight? Still, hiring a lawyer makes me a little more hinky to me, even though I think he's not directly involved in her disapearance.

I bet it was the parents of this boy, especially if he is innocent, to protect him from being railroaded.

Surely LE is close to figuring this out and serving someone. So many eyes and big brother watching...and rewards! Spill the beans, people. This isn't something you want hanging over your head the rest of your life!

 

[curiousgirl2010]

Roude said Lauren’s boyfriend, Jesse Wolff, 21, of Port Washington, Long Island, became worried Friday morning after she did not respond to text messages he sent to her cellphone. She'd left her phone - and her shoes - in a bar before she disappeared.

“He was waiting for her to text him, to say come over and hang out," Roude said. "Jesse was really worried. He went to Hadar's’ class to get her key."

She said Wolff was not part of the circle of friends Spierer had been with the night she disappeared.

“He was a protective boyfriend because he loved her a lot,” she said.

“Her boyfriend loves her more than anyone in this world," Tamir said. "Every time I see him I just want to cry.”

Again, in Love's case, her friends confirmed that her bf was violent. This doesn't seem like a violent bf to me.

 

[epiphany]

I really dont think it was CR, but hiring an attorney always makes someone seems a little fishy to me. Any reason why he would need a lawyer? Maybe because he was drinking under the age of 21 and involved in a fight? Still, hiring a lawyer makes me a little more hinky to me, even though I think he's not directly involved in her disapearance.

I don't mean to imply that makes any of these kids more suspect, IMO. In this day and age, I have no problem whatsoever with their hiring attorneys, especially kids so young. Tell my college kids all the time-anything goes wrong, you must ask for an attorney first. When they were younger, they used to ask, even if we didn't do anything? Times have changed.

 

[cluciano63]

I am completely lost now. Why would CR be considered the last person to see her if he was the one that walked her to the first building? Yet I am sure I read that he was considered to be the last person to see her...

I think it is time to wait for LE to clear some of this up if they chose to do so. It is getting very complicated from various reports. They've lost me, that is for sure.

 

[SmoothOperator]

Ok, someone correct me if I'm wrong, cause this is really confusing, but here's my take on it. From what I understand, LE hasn't actually identified anyone yet, but we found out who CR is because of his hiring a lawyer & media reports. So from various sources it sounds like CR is male friend #1, who Lauren was hanging out with most of the night, but is NOT the person who saw her last (male friend #2). So far, it sounds like CR was really drunk, got in a fight, got punched, then passed out when he & Lauren got back to his apartment. Lauren then hung out with some other people in that building, then walked home while still-unidentified friend #2 supposedly watched her walk to the corner.

Considering several people saw her after CR did, and he was passed out in bed, that rules him out to me. I am inclined to be a little more suspicious of the last person to see her, and her boyfriend. JMO!

Thank you Whitney! Yes you are correct he is male #1 and she was seen after he was in bed passed out by several.. He is not the male #2 that was the last to see Lauren..male #1, Corey is also the one who allowed his cell, car and apt to be searched by LE..don't get why it is still being assumed that he is in any way involved. He wasn't even last to see her and there is more than one person corroborating this..
Strange or not his not remembering hes not the one that disappeared Lauren..jmo


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[ricquelle]

http://www.examiner.com/headlines-i...f-last-man-to-see-missing-ny-coed-is-revealed
Police have identified and interviewed the friend whose apartment missing Westchester County co-ed Lauren Spierer was last seen leaving at 4:30 a.m. on Friday.

Other students encountered Spierer, 20, and CR as they left the building. The New York Post interviewed those students who state that Spierer was intoxicated and that CR appeared to be bothering her and became angry when they asked him to back off. One of the students is reported to have said, "He was being overly aggressive … being so belligerent."

This doesn't make sense...why would she accompany CR back to his apartment if he was being "overly aggressive and bothering her"? She could have just stayed behind with the students who ask him to back off.

 

[curiousgirl2010]

I don't think CR is involved. I think that site lhud is being a bit irresponsible by putting the guy's picture out there when it really does not seem like he's involved.

 

[curiousgirl2010]

This doesn't make sense...why would she accompany CR back to his apartment if he was being "overly aggressive and bothering her"? She could have just stayed behind with the students who ask him to back off.

That's why I mentioned that seemed like tabloid talk. I think he was being agressive with the other guys, possible because he got punched by them, NOT with Lauren.

 

[Sum1'sYaYa]

This doesn't make sense...why would she accompany CR back to his apartment if he was being "overly aggressive and bothering her"? She could have just stayed behind with the students who ask him to back off.

I dont understand this either..more so if she did maybe someone could have
called her boyfriend and told him about it and he was waiting for her?Also,I find it strange that the same apt complex that wouldnt hand over the tapes and LE had break the door down and get them is now offering a reward? IMO

 

[Surly Sasha]

How far are the lakes from the friend's apt?? I know she's tiny, but it's still not the easiest thing in the world to carry a body alone... for those who went to IU, do the college kids have cars??

Given where their apartments are I'd say they have cars, simply because those are pricey apartments so I think it's a safe assumption that these kids come from money.

There are a lot of rural areas surrounding Bloomington, but most students (who aren't from the area) never bother to venture out there.

That's what leads me to believe that this was a stranger/opportunity abduction. I searched for hours yesterday and there are so many people looking--if she were nearby I think someone would have seen *something*. If she was taken and then dumped somewhere (that's horrible to say...) I think it would be by a local.

Lake Monroe is several miles away but Griffy Lake isn't far from campus at all. It's only a couple of miles from Memorial Stadium/Assembly Hall.

 

[Surly Sasha]

With the roomate putting him to bed and the neighbor seeing Lauren, what's the window for CR to have done something to her? Would both guys be covering for Rossman?

If they were it seems like one would have cracked by now. I mean, I love my buddies but not enough to try to cover up a murder for them.

It seems like cell phone pings could quickly help rule out (or in) these guys as suspects.

 

[Surly Sasha]

I really dont think it was CR, but hiring an attorney always makes someone seems a little fishy to me. Any reason why he would need a lawyer? Maybe because he was drinking under the age of 21 and involved in a fight? Still, hiring a lawyer makes me a little more hinky to me, even though I think he's not directly involved in her disapearance.

I would agree if he had immediately lawyered up and then refused to cooperate with LE. But it's been a week. He's still, as far as we know, cooperating. I know that if I were one of the last people to see someone before they went missing I would hire a lawyer. There's nothing wrong with protecting yourself.

 

[epiphany]

Given where their apartments are I'd say they have cars, simply because those are pricey apartments so I think it's a safe assumption that these kids come from money.

There are a lot of rural areas surrounding Bloomington, but most students (who aren't from the area) never bother to venture out there.

That's what leads me to believe that this was a stranger/opportunity abduction. I searched for hours yesterday and there are so many people looking--if she were nearby I think someone would have seen *something*. If she was taken and then dumped someone (that's horrible to say...) I think it would be by a local.

Lake Monroe is several miles away but Griffy Lake isn't far from campus at all. It's only a couple of miles from Memorial Stadium/Assembly Hall.

Respectfully, BBM. Good kids, kids that come from money, educated kids, are just as capable of poor judgement, bad deeds, etc. as other kids. IMO, the mix of alcohol, reported altercations, L's heart condition and youth lead me to suspect that this is not a stranger abduction. Could be wrong, though.

 

[Surly Sasha]

Very, very true. Nobody though the Craigslist killer was capable of murdering people, IIRC.

To go along with your point, I think it's telling that the police haven't issued a statement warning women of a predator even though they admitted that they believe this is a case of foul play.

It has been a good teaching tool for my almost 12 year old daughter, who doesn't understand why I don't let her walk a block with her friends to the fire station for a soda. We walked Lauren Spierer's last known walk and she got to see just how close Lauren was to her apartment when she disappeared.