IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 #26

[imkeylime]

Thank you. The David Yurman piece is unique and the red evil eye bracelet sounds unique. Can someone get some photos of the pieces and maybe the newpaper can publish the items to see if anyone has recently been sporting new jewlery. I know it is a stab in the dark but what is their to lose?

David Yurman pieces are pretty distinctive ... here's the link to a page that shows a few of his turquoise rings: http://www.davidyurman.com/shoponli...page=1&ecid=DSSGDYDavid_Yurman_Turquoise_Ring

There are a few companies that makes similar rings for a lot less (Silpada, etc.), but in general, DY jewelry has a bold appearance and is very pricey. I have no idea the resale value, however ...

 

[RTC]

Real David Yurman is marked and not sold in that many retail places but probably able to buy over the internet. I saw something similar to what you posted on an ebay type of site when I searched "silver turquoise DY"

 

[RTC]

LS is so small and petite, her finger sizes are probably very small. Which finger did she wear the ring on? and would anyone know what size to look for?

 

[StrayKat]

I've read this same info about the possible truck hauler who may have ties to Louisville which is centrally located to the 5 missing young blondes over the past year and a half...

I only wished I lived anywhere near Bloomington, Martinsville because there's a long list of places I'd like to check out along Old 37. Just from google Satellite images, they look suspicious enough, and I'm still not letting that white truck go either.

I agree about the white truck. They posted that pic for a reason. IMO

 

[Ros]

Have any of the apartments at 5 North been searched in any manner by authorities?
Has JR's car been examined by authorities?

Yes, at least some of the apartments were searched. http://www.examiner.com/missing-per...search-dogs-at-homes-of-4-persons-of-interest

http://www.heraldtimesonline.com/stories/2011/11/02/news.qp-2066967.sto

Allegedly JR did not have access to his car that night, but I do not now recall where I read that. I think it is was in PT one of the blogs that are gone now. The mainstream media has never confirmed or denied that he had a guest from Michigan who did have a car. There were early quotes from HT (in a lohud article that is gone now) and CR's lawyer to suggest that he did have a guest, but there's never been anything official to say that he did or did not have a guest.

 

[jjenny]

The other part that is frustrating is that some of these guys should be officially cleared by now. cell records, land line records, witnesses, who had a car? early morning alibis. I think most people think Lauren OD'd but no proof at all.

We have no clue who have been cleared by police because police have hardly released any info (which so far have gotten them exactly nowhere).

 

[cluciano63]

I agree about the white truck. They posted that pic for a reason. IMO

I thought the reason was to find the driver and they did find him. JMO

 

[Darcyline]

I have always considered the truck a done deal. From what I understand, they found the owner who was 100% cooperative, let them search the truck, and he had a reason (his job) to be out on that street at that time. I know mistakes are made though so I understand why some keep the truck as a factor in the case.

 

[Jupiter812]

I have always considered the truck a done deal. From what I understand, they found the owner who was 100% cooperative, let them search the truck, and he had a reason (his job) to be out on that street at that time. I know mistakes are made though so I understand why some keep the truck as a factor in the case.

I still think about this too. I think people tend to go back to it again and again because it was THE ONLY CREDIBLE LEAD in this case (as far as the public is concerned) and it didn't result in a gain. Very frustrating. :banghead:

 

[Jupiter812]

Fellow Sleuthers:

Yesterday's local H-T Sunday paper had a feature article about Lauren based on an interview with the Spierer's. IU put it in their daily today which is open to the public.

All points to CR. Have tissues on hand.

http://info.iu.edu/news/page/normal/21041.html

Stay safe and well.

 

[thesaint]

Fellow Sleuthers:

Yesterday's local H-T Sunday paper had a feature article about Lauren based on an interview with the Spierer'sd.

http://info.iu.edu/news/page/normal/21041.html

Wow, they are (understandably, of course) in denial about what their daughter likely was up to that night They can't even bring themselves to acknowledge her drug use. Very sad to read. It's not going to help find her if they refuse to acknowledge that drugs not only played a role in Lauren's disappearance but likely drugs are the key element in her disappearance.

 

[Jupiter812]

Wow, they are (understandably, of course) in denial about what their daughter likely was up to that night They can't even bring themselves to acknowledge her drug use. Very sad to read. It's not going to help find her if they refuse to acknowledge that drugs not only played a role in Lauren's disappearance but likely drugs are the key element in her disappearance.

And you know this how? I know there have been rumors and speculation, but I think it's equally likely the combination of QT syndrome and alcohol not to mention the possibility of her having been slipped a roofie at Sports played a role.

I'm curious: Specifically, how would their acknowledgement of such help find her?

 

[Jupiter812]

Also wanted to add that I wouldn't say they are in denial just because they don't publicize all their thoughts.

I trust them on their word about what her friends told them, i.e., that she did not do drugs that night, and I don't understand the public's need for them to express otherwise. They're not stupid people and personally, I think it the privacy of their own physical and psychic space, they know it is a possibility. Still, it does not look like Lauren made herself disappear now does it?

 

[OldSteve]

I too though there was a bit of denial in what they said when they made light of Lauren going without shoes. It was mentioned that there's broken bottles, etc., along the way the she traveled (many threads back someone retraced her path and mentioned this).
We don't know what she had taken that night - drugs, alcohol, or nothing - but regardless, my impression was she was vulnerable and no one was really looking out for her - so sad!

 

[jjenny]

I have no clue whatsoever how it could possibly point to CR. The other two (MB and JR) seem to give CR an alibi, considering MB claims he put CR to bed and JR apparently claims Lauren was in his apartment and he saw her leave (or so had been reported). That in my mind clears CR, whatever it is he was doing prior. I don't know what he actually remembers and doesn't, but the fact that he apparently doesn't want to talk to the parents might have nothing to do with LS going missing.

 

[Darcyline]

I know it is pretty much an assumed fact that she was doing coke or other drugs that night, but it really is genuinely possible she was just drinking or was slipped something.
It is also possible that she experimented that night when she usually didn't. There is a first time for everything. She was hanging out with some different people that night (according to her friends) celebrating the end of a semester away from her boyfriend...maybe she thought why not? It happens all the time. I genuinely believe her friends and parents when they say she was not a drug user/abuser. I just think it is possible that she did it every once in awhile or perhaps this was her first night.
The only thing that I can see might be gained by her parents admitting it is if the small time drug dealer rumors are true. I guess if a drug dealer was responsible following a trail of drugs may help find Lauren. Every time I imagine some random drug dealer I still keep coming back to the group of boys we know about though. I cannot clear them in my head or my heart. Not that I matter, but I cannot seem to get past who we do know in order to imagine other players who have nothing to do with who we do know.

 

[jjenny]

The parents likely aren't in the "know" of whether she used drugs or not. I doubt she would tell her parents if she was when she was alive. Her friends might not want to tell the parents the truth either. I don't recall any of them (from the University) telling reporters that she would never use any drugs. And she didn't just forget her shoes. As I recall, she also forgot her cell phone in the bar, and then lost her purse as well. And again, if one to believe JR (which from what reported, she left and he saw her leave rounding the street corner), then how could CR possibly be involved? I don't see how CR's possible involvement makes any sense.

 

[thesaint]

And you know this how? I know there have been rumors and speculation, but I think it's equally likely the combination of QT syndrome and alcohol not to mention the possibility of her having been slipped a roofie at Sports played a role.

I'm curious: Specifically, how would their acknowledgement of such help find her?

If they are unwilling to even consider theories which involve Lauren using drugs, then when someone presents such a theory to them (Lauren OD'd and her party friends freaked and did the wrong thing), they are likely to be dismissive of it: "that's not our Lauren".

 

[Jupiter812]

I know it is pretty much an assumed fact that she was doing coke or other drugs that night, but it really is genuinely possible she was just drinking or was slipped something.
It is also possible that she experimented that night when she usually didn't. There is a first time for everything. She was hanging out with some different people that night (according to her friends) celebrating the end of a semester away from her boyfriend...maybe she thought why not? It happens all the time. I genuinely believe her friends and parents when they say she was not a drug user/abuser. I just think it is possible that she did it every once in awhile or perhaps this was her first night.
The only thing that I can see might be gained by her parents admitting it is if the small time drug dealer rumors are true. I guess if a drug dealer was responsible following a trail of drugs may help find Lauren. Every time I imagine some random drug dealer I still keep coming back to the group of boys we know about though. I cannot clear them in my head or my heart. Not that I matter, but I cannot seem to get past who we do know in order to imagine other players who have nothing to do with who we do know.

This reflects my thinking as well. However, I do expect LE to be following any rumored trail of a drug dealer. It's in their best interest to do so; who knows, some of the recent busts may be as a result of such work.

It's also in the best interest of the Spierer's to hold back commenting on Lauren's rumored drug use unless they have concrete evidence else the haters will pollute the public conversation locally and affect support. People can be so judgmental.

At the end of the day, I can't clear the group of boys either. I ask myself:

Which is more likely:

One or more of the boys are lying and/or withholding helpful information that would help locate Lauren, or she was randomly abducted?

 

[British]

At the end of the day, I can't clear the group of boys either. I ask myself:

Which is more likely:

One or more of the boys are lying and/or withholding helpful information that would help locate Lauren, or she was randomly abducted?

In my opinion #1 is very likely. I never believed the story of "memory loss". And I just read the article you had linked to in which LS's parents said they found the story of one of the POIs "laughable".