IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 #28

[LongTallTexan]

Pharm Parties

Not sure if someone posted on this before. While there has been reports of various drugs
a) some reports of LS talking at Kilroy's about what she'd taken (including Xanax and Opiates)
b) some reports (or rumors?) of DR admitting to using Klonopin that night with LS.
c) the commonness of cocaine in this type of evironment

A recent phenomenon has been occuring heavily in the East Coast: Pharm parties.
Where people bring various random pills and capsules... they throw them together on a table or hard surface, crush and mix them together sometimes with coke, meth, X or heroin into a powder. Then they snort this pharmaceutical cocktail. extremely risky!

Has this been going on in Bloomington? Has anyone who posts ever been to a party at JR's or was there the night LS vanished? If so, was there some Pharm blending going on? These pharmacuetical coctails also fit the symptoms.

Great question....anyone on WS who was involved in the Parties that night at either SW or 5N? If not, why not?

 

[LongTallTexan]

We have all speculated about LS's condition and 'snapping' out it from a face-flat fall to wanting to party....and we've all questioned the intantaneous amnesia. Both possible and both debatable. But the thing that is also very unusual is that CR is the functionally able to carry, drag or walk home with LS that last block, but by the time he get home, he's toast....pukes and needs to be put to bed.

So CR goes from good to bad, and LS goes from bad to good.....in how much time?

 

[bx2]

It's great to have the whole 5N defense lawyers and their staff here.

Yes, can we please all start typing identical theories? It's frustrating to have to see opposing view points and constant reminders that I'm just making stuff up on gut feel.

Well you poked a dent in one of the Missing call items I posted. What about the rest of my list? keep poking.

2) Along with the 2 calls at 4:15 JR attributes to LS, why would LS not call HT to let her know that she was coming back in a few minutes and would need to get into the apartment? This also would be normal behavior so one is not standing in a hallway banging on a door at 4:30, or having to disturb someone else for entry. But this call didn't happen either.

The Smallwood key card gains you access to the building and the elevator. I've looked, but am unable to confirm if it also opens the apartment doors like some other apartments in town. I'm not under the impression that LS was thinking logically enough to call HT to give her a heads up about needing let in (if home was even her intended destination). Smallwood also has an intercom along with literally hundreds of other residents. No idea what the norm could be in a situation where she was locked out, but there may have been other options.

3) LS never thinks of calling JW. This is also a bit strange. It's my understanding that she had tentative plans to meet up with JW later that night. It's not clear what attempts were made by him to call her, but he did claim to fall asleep. At the same time, if she knew that she has been without her phone for an extended period of time, and she has a pattern of texting or calling him at night, before bed, or even calling him to come over one might expect a call to JW to say she lost her phone, was headed back home, etc... But she makes no call to JW.

Nothing really to debate here. Commenting on what she was did or didn't think about is total speculation. It is pretty common to not have people's numbers memorized though. As to the call patterns, I agree that they would be important to establish for this relationship. The calls that her phone DIDN'T receive may be just as important as the ones that it did.

4) In fact, of all the people LS should be calling (#1 her own phone, #2 HT or someone at SW that could let her into her apt., #3 JW, etc...) She is instead calling people that who do not make sense. She calls Mr. POI, and DR??
This points to her NOT making those Calls. And if she didn't make the calls, WHY were these calls made?

Who she should be calling is relative to her purpose. If she was looking for her phone (as has been submitted), I agree that she may have thought to call her own as we tend to do if trying to locate it (I even brought this up about 25 threads ago). I've thought for awhile on if everything we've heard was true, why would she be calling these two people for her phone? Is there such a blackout period that she didn't recall having it with her after leaving Smallwood earlier in the night? Did she "lose" it early on in the night? The pairing of what we've heard of for the reasoning and the people she reportedly tried to call has definitely got me leaning further toward the side of her phone being intentionally kept away from her.

 

[bx2]

We have all speculated about LS's condition and 'snapping' out it from a face-flat fall to wanting to party....and we've all questioned the intantaneous amnesia. Both possible and both debatable. But the thing that is also very unusual is that CR is the functionally able to carry, drag or walk home with LS that last block, but by the time he get home, he's toast....pukes and needs to be put to bed.

So CR goes from good to bad, and LS goes from bad to good.....in how much time?

Yep, in full agreement that something here doesn't make sense. It has always not sat right that we have no statement as to the time that CR and LS show back up to where MB is at. I've often times wondered if they continued the party back at JR's before exiting a little while later to CR/MB's. They exit Kilroys to go to Smallwood for what? They attempt to buzz the apt of the Tenth and College girls from the pre-party for what? After all that, I just don't see CR as ready to crash a mere few minutes later.

 

[faithbelieve]

This is my first post, so I hope I'm doing this right. The LE timeline never made sense to me, but became less confusing when I changed the times of the videos from 10th and College Apartments to Daylight Saving Time. I think the cameras there and at 10th and College Village had not been adjusted to DST. Has anyone else tried doing this?

 

[Ixchel13]

Yes, can we please all start typing identical theories? It's frustrating to have to see opposing view points and constant reminders that I'm just making stuff up on gut feel.



The Smallwood key card gains you access to the building and the elevator. I've looked, but am unable to confirm if it also opens the apartment doors like some other apartments in town. I'm not under the impression that LS was thinking logically enough to call HT to give her a heads up about needing let in (if home was even her intended destination). Smallwood also has an intercom along with literally hundreds of other residents. No idea what the norm could be in a situation where she was locked out, but there may have been other options.



Nothing really to debate here. Commenting on what she was did or didn't think about is total speculation. It is pretty common to not have people's numbers memorized though. As to the call patterns, I agree that they would be important to establish for this relationship. The calls that her phone DIDN'T receive may be just as important as the ones that it did.



Who she should be calling is relative to her purpose. If she was looking for her phone (as has been submitted), I agree that she may have thought to call her own as we tend to do if trying to locate it (I even brought this up about 25 threads ago). I've thought for awhile on if everything we've heard was true, why would she be calling these two people for her phone? Is there such a blackout period that she didn't recall having it with her after leaving Smallwood earlier in the night? Did she "lose" it early on in the night? The pairing of what we've heard of for the reasoning and the people she reportedly tried to call has definitely got me leaning further toward the side of her phone being intentionally kept away from her.

At this point, I agree, we are just running theories by. But, I don't think it's necessarily a bad thing to do. Out of the two broad theories, which I think are
circle of friends vs. stranger abduction, the friends theory holds the least horror and is the easiest because here are our POIs right in front of us and it makes sense. None of these kids are gonna talk until one does. They have already decided that talking will not bring their friend back. It's all about drugs and what this can do to their precious futures.
As with Brettly not driving Mickey home that night, we just can't believe that JR would not be chivalrous enough to walk Lauren home. But I work around these kids, and see this behavior all the time.
Again, back to the blackout state, definitely not to be confused with passed out state. We're talking almost 30 years ago but I went from a black out state in which I danced on top of a giant speaker at a club for an hour, picked someone up, brought them home in a cab, and woke up with this person the next day. I didn't know how I got there, who I was with, and didn't
remember the dancing on the speaker at all. Not even a whisper of a hint!
Apparently during all this, I had the wherewithal not to have sex. If I had walked out of that club into the night, I would have been easy prey. I know
exactly what I was imbibing, it was valium and vodka.
A black out state is usually something you wish would have been a passed out state. Despite all the bad things that have been happening, the kids love to talk about the crazy things they do, and often try to achieve this state.
Also, I have seen kids with injuries from blacked out states, and these are mainly scraped foreheads and twisted ankles.
You can be in this state and suddenly snap out of it without passing out. One other time years ago, again with the booze and valium, I disrupted a fund raiser I was co chairing! At the event, I guess I told off several people, but also had a great time for two hours misbehaving, etc then all the sudden we were leaving and I didn't know why, and my partner and friends are like, don't
even try it, you know what you did in there; but I didn't. And of course, my partner wasn't speaking to me, and was dropped off at a friends'. My friends were driving me home and saying, wow, you don't remember this, and you don't remember that? Do you remember telling off Susan? And I'm like, you
have got to be kidding me. After that I never mixed valium w. alcohol.
When you mix these boutique mood elevators with booze it's a total crap shoot. If someone hid her phone from her, they might have brought it back,
I've said before you can just place it over the fence, the beach part of Kilroys is outside, anyone could have tossed the phone and shoes back into Kilroys.

 

[Snapfade]

in most cases, people are wise not to talk to the police whether they are guilty as sin or completely innocent. I do not knock anyone for refusing to talk, lawyering up, or refusing to take polygraphs.

plenty of people are sitting in prison not because they actually committed a crime rather because cops, when handed a sensational case, want to pin it on someone so they will try to create suspects where none exist.

I guarantee you that most college age kids, if out all night "partying" (I use that term euphemistically as it may involve use of illegal drugs) will NOT remember time and sequence of events. people who are wasted probably won't remember the sequence of bars they went to, what time they left, who they drank with at bar A. B. or C, etc. that is fertile ground for cops to trap people on their own words even if they had nothing to do with (in this case) Lauren's disappearance.

they had plenty of reasons not to invite the cops in, if as has been suggested, there were drugs floating about. these kids may have been taught that if there is ever any trouble with the cop UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES TALK TO THE POLICE, which I might add is very sage advice.

there is nothing altrustic about talking to the cops when they want to put someone on trial and it could be the person who voluntarily gave a statement

I agree !!

 

[Snapfade]

There was an incident few months ago, where a girl pepper sprayed a man that was attempting to rape her. She was walking home from Kilroys. The incident happened after midnight. Ive considered this a very good lead for LE. Does Kilroys have very many older customers that hang out around bar while younger crowd partying hard? Possibly friends with all the bartenders and waitreses. Just a theory.

 

[Ixchel13]

There was an incident few months ago, where a girl pepper sprayed a man that was attempting to rape her. She was walking home from Kilroys. The incident happened after midnight. Ive considered this a very good lead for LE. Does Kilroys have very many older customers that hang out around bar while younger crowd partying hard? Possibly friends with all the bartenders and waitreses. Just a theory.

Kilroys does not have a good reputation, having had multiple citations for serving underagers, I remember years back they pulled 125+ kids out on a single raid, basically they pour alcohol down these kids' throats and ply them with plastic toys and free t shirts. Also, many years back, at least 10, there was a knifing of a town vs. gown type right out in front can't remember if the guy died but it was attempted murder. I am talking about the one near SW. It is shadier than the one downtown (really only 8 blocks away). I can tell you all kinds of weirdos hang out in that little quadrant LS went missing from. I think because the kids make up such a huge part of that quadrant,
they feel invincible going up and down the alleys at night.
Say you're a weirdo and you're at the XX rated book and novelty store. Then, you decide to check out some chicks. All you have to do is walk less than a block to 10th and College. lots of kids around, turn right there, and Kilroys is right there. And SW is basically right behind Kilroy's, it's almost like SW's personal bar.
Now House Bar, it is exactly the same for 5N. Say you were a weirdo at the same XX rated store. Now, you're going to case the alley by House Bar .
All you do is walk up the street not even a block to the corner where 5N is.
There's alot of construction. Across the street and about 15 feet is an alley.
100 feet down that alley, it dead ends into a tree covered high fenced patio.
Since all this happened, the alley has been changed drastically all the way down to House Bar.! The intersection where she supposedly was last seen has been completely remodelled. The alley she turned into after leaving the cameras and the lot it turned into are completely gone. Seriously, the entire 2 block radius she was last reported in has been completely changed. The only alley or space that hasn't changed is the one she and CR are seen in.

 

[Ixchel13]

ok, let me be honest and say I worked at 10th and College, not saying which shop of which there have been dozens in and out! So someone says Lauren hit her head while sitting on the steps under the clock. Then, CR starts giving her a piggy back up the alley between the two complexes. The alley in question is creepy even in the day because it is a closed alley and shadowy. The cameras are purposely visible. What I found scary about this alley was, what if someone who lived there pulled me in? Then, you finally get to the open, where you can turn left, go down the alley next to 10th and College
Village and then up the street which was lined with parked cars; or go straight across a big crumbly and weedy parking lot, to my car but at least it was out in the open. Behind the crumbly parking lot was a dark, tree shaded
building with scary stairs and alot of random backs of buildings that were in the process of being morphed into 5N. Across from 5N was this also scary dark field and abandoned shack and it all backs into the RR--now it has all been made into condos. As a middle aged adult I found going to my car late
over there a nightmare, yet I would see these kids running around like there wasn't a problem.

 

[AbbeyR]

We have all speculated about LS's condition and 'snapping' out it from a face-flat fall to wanting to party....and we've all questioned the intantaneous amnesia. Both possible and both debatable. But the thing that is also very unusual is that CR is the functionally able to carry, drag or walk home with LS that last block, but by the time he get home, he's toast....pukes and needs to be put to bed.

So CR goes from good to bad, and LS goes from bad to good.....in how much time?

Yep, in full agreement that something here doesn't make sense. It has always not sat right that we have no statement as to the time that CR and LS show back up to where MB is at. I've often times wondered if they continued the party back at JR's before exiting a little while later to CR/MB's. They exit Kilroys to go to Smallwood for what? They attempt to buzz the apt of the Tenth and College girls from the pre-party for what? After all that, I just don't see CR as ready to crash a mere few minutes later.

I've wondered the same thing. The first time I heard that Lauren had been at JR's was when it was mentioned by the friend of JR's roommate on PT before his name was released by the media. His story was that JR said they all went back to his place after the bar. Maybe this was detail was wrong because it was 3rd hand, maybe not.

If they ended up back at JR's where the partying continued, and CR suddenly goes downhill, getting sick or passing out, I can only imagine that Lauren would be going downhill just as fast. So you are stuck with two people who are totally messed up and possibly sick and/or passed out. What to do? Maybe the part about MB helping to 'put CR to bed' is true. And Lauren? I can see how the first thing someone might do in this situation is to call the person LS was with earlier in the night -- either to come get her (because she wasn't going to make it home on her own), or possibly to find out what she had taken or what to do about it. So it totally makes sense to me that the calls weren't to her own phone or to her roommate, who JR was friends with. The bigger question is why no other calls? Did she suddenly go from bad to "good" at this point and could walk home on her own? Did JR just decide it wasn't his problem and sent her on her way? Or did things go from bad to worse. If so, were CR and MB there?

Since there are several versions of MB's story, it's hard to know his role here. The first story I remember hearing was that MB told a neighbor he watched LS leave and walk to the corner. Then JR's name came out, and that was JR's story and MB's was that LS went to JR's on her own, while he stayed home and wrote papers. So we all assumed there was a mix up in the reporting. But since then, we have heard that MB was at JR's earlier as well, and a later version of his story has him going back there where he and JR try to convince LS to stay over at JR's. We've been through this before, but if we put everyone back at JR's, it puts the inconsistencies in a bit of a different light. So were JR, MB and CR together when these calls were made? If he was at JR's and they all thought Lauren was fine when she left, why did he claim that he wasn't there? Was that first story a mistake in reporting or the first version of the POI's story before they got lawyers and started acting like they barely knew each other?

 

[SeeingForThe1stTime]

There was an incident few months ago, where a girl pepper sprayed a man that was attempting to rape her. She was walking home from Kilroys. The incident happened after midnight. Ive considered this a very good lead for LE. Does Kilroys have very many older customers that hang out around bar while younger crowd partying hard? Possibly friends with all the bartenders and waitreses. Just a theory.

I remember that! A couple ran up and to help and he ran off, right? I wonder if they ever caught him.

 

[SeeingForThe1stTime]

Kilroys does not have a good reputation, having had multiple citations for serving underagers, I remember years back they pulled 125+ kids out on a single raid, basically they pour alcohol down these kids' throats and ply them with plastic toys and free t shirts. Also, many years back, at least 10, there was a knifing of a town vs. gown type right out in front can't remember if the guy died but it was attempted murder. I am talking about the one near SW. It is shadier than the one downtown (really only 8 blocks away). I can tell you all kinds of weirdos hang out in that little quadrant LS went missing from. I think because the kids make up such a huge part of that quadrant,
they feel invincible going up and down the alleys at night.
Say you're a weirdo and you're at the XX rated book and novelty store. Then, you decide to check out some chicks. All you have to do is walk less than a block to 10th and College. lots of kids around, turn right there, and Kilroys is right there. And SW is basically right behind Kilroy's, it's almost like SW's personal bar.
Now House Bar, it is exactly the same for 5N. Say you were a weirdo at the same XX rated store. Now, you're going to case the alley by House Bar .
All you do is walk up the street not even a block to the corner where 5N is.
There's alot of construction. Across the street and about 15 feet is an alley.
100 feet down that alley, it dead ends into a tree covered high fenced patio.
Since all this happened, the alley has been changed drastically all the way down to House Bar.! The intersection where she supposedly was last seen has been completely remodelled. The alley she turned into after leaving the cameras and the lot it turned into are completely gone. Seriously, the entire 2 block radius she was last reported in has been completely changed. The only alley or space that hasn't changed is the one she and CR are seen in.

I did not know anything at all about all these sketchy sex places on these blocks until you posted about them the other night. I've be highly suspicious, and outspoken about my suspicion, of the 5N boys since the very beginning. To be honest, finding out about this, particularly the SO halfway houses (you did say there is one of those, right?) is the first and only thing I've heard that gives me pause. Now I feel like I need to know more about this and some of the SO's that might have been in the area at the time. Can't think of a good reason not to.

 

[SeeingForThe1stTime]

ok, let me be honest and say I worked at 10th and College, not saying which shop of which there have been dozens in and out! So someone says Lauren hit her head while sitting on the steps under the clock. Then, CR starts giving her a piggy back up the alley between the two complexes. The alley in question is creepy even in the day because it is a closed alley and shadowy. The cameras are purposely visible. What I found scary about this alley was, what if someone who lived there pulled me in? Then, you finally get to the open, where you can turn left, go down the alley next to 10th and College
Village and then up the street which was lined with parked cars; or go straight across a big crumbly and weedy parking lot, to my car but at least it was out in the open. Behind the crumbly parking lot was a dark, tree shaded
building with scary stairs and alot of random backs of buildings that were in the process of being morphed into 5N. Across from 5N was this also scary dark field and abandoned shack and it all backs into the RR--now it has all been made into condos. As a middle aged adult I found going to my car late
over there a nightmare, yet I would see these kids running around like there wasn't a problem.

oh jeez. that sounds bad.

 

[AbbeyR]

Has this been going on in Bloomington? Has anyone who posts ever been to a party at JR's or was there the night LS vanished? If so, was there some Pharm blending going on? These pharmacuetical coctails also fit the symptoms.

I have no idea if there are 'pharm parties' in Bloomington or what happens at JR's, but since the symptoms of LS and CR seem to match up with the drugs that people have talked about (alcohol + xanax / klonopin and possibly coke), I've always thought that's probably what happened. Many people have said Lauren wasn't into drugs. But in general, this kind of 'partying' isn't exactly out of the ordinary - The FB and twitter feeds of some of the people in this group are filled with references to popping xanax and taking trips to #blackoutcity

 

[Ixchel13]

I did not know anything at all about all these sketchy sex places on these blocks until you posted about them the other night. I've be highly suspicious, and outspoken about my suspicion, of the 5N boys since the very beginning. To be honest, finding out about this, particularly the SO halfway houses (you did say there is one of those, right?) is the first and only thing I've heard that gives me pause. Now I feel like I need to know more about this and some of the SO's that might have been in the area at the time. Can't think of a good reason not to.

I'm going to re-look these addresses up, but is it a good idea/even ok
to list them here? I know it's ok to list the public ones like Amethyst House on the corner of 11th and College which is a half way house for male drug addicts. Not so bad in itself but a lot of drug action is happening right in front of them on that corner late at night. There is a house in the 11th and Morton area that has SOs. If we could put the SO map up for that area people could draw their own conclusions.

 

[Ixchel13]

Description: 35-42-4-2 - Criminal Deviate Conduct
• Date Convicted: 03/31/1998
• Conviction State: Indiana
• Date Released: 01/04/2011
• Details:
• County of Conviction: Monroe
• Case Number: 53C069510CF00720
• Sentence: 40 YRS/SERVED 15

here's a guy 1.5 blocks from JR's, violent sexual criminal, released Jan. of 2011 after 15 years from a 40 year sentence. There's another guy 2 blocks south of JRs that also works around the corner from Kilroys at a shoe repair shop and he had to walk by SW every day to get home. Out of the 4 SOs living in a 5 block radius from JR, 2 were violent offenders. See I did JRs address first, if you slide it a fewe blocks south to SW, the SOs would probably change.

Here's another SO who lives .5 blocks from JRs, and works at the Taco Bell right on the corner next to Kilroys and SW!! It's open late, and he would be walking home on the same street/alley LS and friends use.

Sexually Violent Predator
Status: Active
Registration Start Date: 05/15/2001
Registration End Date:
Lifetime Registration: Yes

Physical Description
• Age: 33 • Height: 5'09''
• Sex: M • Weight: 180lbs
• Race: Caucasian • Eyes: Brown
• Hair: Brown
• Scars/Tattoos:

Address
1306 W 11TH ST BLOOMINGTON, IN 47403 View Map

Offenses

 

[Ixchel13]

sorry to keep posting but I have alot of time off right now. here are a couple of police runs in the area, I think the assault is in SW IIRC:
CASENUMBER: B12-03753 2
Offense Code: SICK/INJURED PERSON
Officer: BURNS, BENJAMIN INACTIVE
Date/Time: 4/20/2012 2 2:58:21 AM INACTIVE
Address: 1335 N LINCOLN ST

OFFICERS BEGIN ADMINISTERING CPR TO THE INJURED FEMALE.
___________________________________________________________________________

CASENUMBER: B12-03753 3
Offense Code: SICK/INJURED PERSON
Officer: FORSTON, CODY C INACTIVE
Date/Time: 4/20/2012 2 2:58:21 AM INACTIVE
Address: 1335 N LINCOLN ST

SEVERAL OFFICERS ASSIST THE INJURED FEMALE.
___________________________________________________________________________

CASENUMBER: B12-03753 IR
Offense Code: SICK/INJURED PERSON
Officer: FOSNAUGH, ANTHONY INACTIVE
Date/Time: 4/20/2012 2 2:58:21 AM INACTIVE
Address: 1335 N LINCOLN ST

A 20 YEAR OLD MALE AND A 20 YEAR OLD FEMALE FELL FROM A PORCH WHERE THEY
BOTH SUFFERED INJURIES AND WERE TRANSPORTED TO THE HOSPITAL FOR CARE.
___________________________________________________________________________

CASENUMBER: B12-03758 IR
Offense Code: BATTERY/ASSAULT, SIMPLE
Officer: HUNTER, JACOB CLEARED ARREST ADULT
Date/Time: 4/20/2012 2 3:15:01 AM ADULT ARREST
Address: 601 N COLLEGE AVE

OFFICERS WERE CALLED TO A DISTURBANCE. UPON ARRIVAL THERE WERE TWO FEMALE
SUBJECTS AND TWO MALE SUBJECTS IN THE HALLWAY. ALISON F. 22,
COMPLAINED OF PAIN IN HER HEAD AND CHASEN B. 22, WAS BLEEDING FROM
HIS NOSE AND HAD INJURIES TO HIS HEAD. MR. B. STATED THAT HE HAD BEEN
IN A PHYSICAL ALTERCATION WITH AN UNKNOWN MALE WHICH RESULTED IN HIS
INJURIES. MS. FIELD STATED THAT SHE WAS INJURED BY ONE OF THE MALES WHILE
TRYING TO BREAK UP THE FIGHT, BUT SHE DID NOT KNOW WHICH MALE IT WAS.
CHRISTIE H. 19, WAS ARRESTED FOR ILLEGAL CONSUMPTION AND TRESPASS.
___________________________________________________________________________

CASENUMBER: B12-03751 IR

Just wanted to show that these kids are getting effed up and injuring themselves, and getting into scuffles and then not even knowing who they are scuffling with. The police had to administer CPR and one of the girls got a trespass and illegal consumption citation.

Any port in the storm--i think LS and CR were trying to get in and they wouldn't let them because CR is on the tresspass list; also think JW somehow got his hands on LS's phone, erased angry messages, threw it over the fence and then started calling it later.
Again, what happened with her phone, and why, still doesn't have to be connected to what finally happened to her. That she was on a blacked out odyssey to find her phone
could be that she was trying to connect with JW, not avoid him; or it could be she didn't want him to get to her phone before she did. To me, the phone and the lock out at SW
is the key to how everything spun out of control. Was it a lock out, or did she flee because someone was in her apartment she wanted to avoid? IMO, MOO of course.

 

[AbbeyR]

I'm confused. What makes you think LS was locked out of Smallwood?

 

[SeeingForThe1stTime]

sorry to keep posting but I have alot of time off right now. here are a couple of police runs in the area, I think the assault is in SW IIRC:
CASENUMBER: B12-03753 2
Offense Code: SICK/INJURED PERSON
Officer: BURNS, BENJAMIN INACTIVE
Date/Time: 4/20/2012 2 2:58:21 AM INACTIVE
Address: 1335 N LINCOLN ST

OFFICERS BEGIN ADMINISTERING CPR TO THE INJURED FEMALE.
___________________________________________________________________________

CASENUMBER: B12-03753 3
Offense Code: SICK/INJURED PERSON
Officer: FORSTON, CODY C INACTIVE
Date/Time: 4/20/2012 2 2:58:21 AM INACTIVE
Address: 1335 N LINCOLN ST

SEVERAL OFFICERS ASSIST THE INJURED FEMALE.
___________________________________________________________________________

CASENUMBER: B12-03753 IR
Offense Code: SICK/INJURED PERSON
Officer: FOSNAUGH, ANTHONY INACTIVE
Date/Time: 4/20/2012 2 2:58:21 AM INACTIVE
Address: 1335 N LINCOLN ST

A 20 YEAR OLD MALE AND A 20 YEAR OLD FEMALE FELL FROM A PORCH WHERE THEY
BOTH SUFFERED INJURIES AND WERE TRANSPORTED TO THE HOSPITAL FOR CARE.
___________________________________________________________________________

CASENUMBER: B12-03758 IR
Offense Code: BATTERY/ASSAULT, SIMPLE
Officer: HUNTER, JACOB CLEARED ARREST ADULT
Date/Time: 4/20/2012 2 3:15:01 AM ADULT ARREST
Address: 601 N COLLEGE AVE

OFFICERS WERE CALLED TO A DISTURBANCE. UPON ARRIVAL THERE WERE TWO FEMALE
SUBJECTS AND TWO MALE SUBJECTS IN THE HALLWAY. ALISON F. 22,
COMPLAINED OF PAIN IN HER HEAD AND CHASEN B. 22, WAS BLEEDING FROM
HIS NOSE AND HAD INJURIES TO HIS HEAD. MR. B. STATED THAT HE HAD BEEN
IN A PHYSICAL ALTERCATION WITH AN UNKNOWN MALE WHICH RESULTED IN HIS
INJURIES. MS. FIELD STATED THAT SHE WAS INJURED BY ONE OF THE MALES WHILE
TRYING TO BREAK UP THE FIGHT, BUT SHE DID NOT KNOW WHICH MALE IT WAS.
CHRISTIE H. 19, WAS ARRESTED FOR ILLEGAL CONSUMPTION AND TRESPASS.
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CASENUMBER: B12-03751 IR

Just wanted to show that these kids are getting effed up and injuring themselves, and getting into scuffles and then not even knowing who they are scuffling with. The police had to administer CPR and one of the girls got a trespass and illegal consumption citation.

Any port in the storm--i think LS and CR were trying to get in and they wouldn't let them because CR is on the tresspass list; also think JW somehow got his hands on LS's phone, erased angry messages, threw it over the fence and then started calling it later.
Again, what happened with her phone, and why, still doesn't have to be connected to what finally happened to her. That she was on a blacked out odyssey to find her phone
could be that she was trying to connect with JW, not avoid him; or it could be she didn't want him to get to her phone before she did. To me, the phone and the lock out at SW
is the key to how everything spun out of control. Was it a lock out, or did she flee because someone was in her apartment she wanted to avoid? IMO, MOO of course.

Thank you for all of this information. Because of it, I'm definitely seeing the idea of a stranger abduction as more of a possibility than I would have before seeing all this. The problem I have with a stranger abduction, aside from either how guilty the 5N boys either are and can't hide or are making themselves appear to by their actions, is that well, there isn't much to do if that is case, or even talk about really. What I mean is, there is an infinite number of possibilities and no way to know where or who to start with because I would guess (and hope!) that any violent sexual predators in the area would've been some of the very first to be checked out by LE, the ones living in the halfway house would surely be monitored closely with their comings and goings logged and verifiable. So while some of the businesses in the area may have been a lure for an SO if they don't live in this specific area then there isn't any way to identify them, not for us here anyway. I sincerely hope this isn't what happened to LS because I think the likelihood of recovery goes way way down if so. OH! That reminds me, I was thinking about the area SO's and the halfway house and I sort of think it's would be uncommon for for one of the halfway house residents to have a car so she would've been left right there in the area, but I did have another question. You were saying the house is something like half a block or a block and half away from 5N or SW; would that be in between 5N and SW or in the opposite direction from one from the other?

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JW somehow got his hands on LS's phone, erased angry messages, threw it over the fence and then started calling it later.
Again, what happened with her phone, and why, still doesn't have to be connected to what finally happened to her.

I don't follow? LS left her phone at the bar and as far as I know it was never missing?