BBM I wonder if that's true. I'm not confident that we would know anything about anything, since LE hasn't shared a thing with the public about what evidence they have and the POI haven't exactly been forthcoming about what happened that night.
I recently caught a repeat of the show Vanished that had a short clip about Lauren. The same episode also told the story of Kristen Smart, which I've brought up a few times here. In that case there was a lot of evidence -- the person last seen with her (helping her home, drunk after a party) had scratches, he lied to the police, a cadaver dog picked up a scent in his dorm room... but since Kristen still hasn't been found, there has never been an arrest. I think the only reason the info about the cadaver dog was made public was because her parents found out and told the media...
Anyway, I don't think it's an accident that those two stories were put together on the show. There are a lot of (potential) similarities.
Abbey - please elaborate on what similarities you think are significant.
In the case of LS, It always seemed improbable to me that LS died at JR's.
But certainly was possible. I have no reason to believe MB because of the numerous conflicts by his attributed statements vs. the known facts and statements of JR. However, if we are to assume that MB did somehow transfer LS to JR prior to her being deceased, then my view is that she was unconscious if that transfer ever happened.
From analyzing this case from the very beginning I'm leaning this way
a) LS deceased in that gravel lot or a vehicle nearby. 60%
b) LS deceased enroute to 5N to CR/MB's apt, in CR/MB's apt or enroute to JR's apt with the help of MB. 35%
c) LS deceased in JR's apt 4.9%
d) LS deceased or even alive after leaving JR's(assumes she actually left JR's alive) 0.1%
In the scenarios where LS is deceased inside the apts at 5N or in the hallways or 5N sidewalk I have always thought that she was removed very quickly. The quick removal caused me to entertain the idea that someone may have tried to take her to the hospital but she passed away enroute and then cover up ensued. It's a remote possibility. Removing her quickly would be key to any successful clean up and cover up. A cadaver scent is traceable pretty much immediately. But cleaning up such a scent is far more likely if she were there only seconds to minutes before being removed.
For example. If she suddenly stopped breathing and someone attempted CPR and realized it failed... then grabs a sleeping bag and quickly puts her into it... then very carefully cleans the spot several times where this happened (maybe discarding a blanket, rug anything she might have been touching. ) this might potentially thwart a cadaver hit a month later. It really depends on what really happened, how fast they acted, and then how good LE pursued this possibility. Remember in the Kaylee Anthony case there was the cadaver smell in the trunk, but there was in fact no way to forensically prove that it was in fact a cadaver. So, even if a dog had some type of "hit" around CR/MB's or JR's it would just be a sort of smoking gun. And certainly if the hit were in one place vs. multiple locations you could use that to form theories about who was involved and what happened.
A body lying somewhere for a length of time is much harder to clean up and to tougher to remove the scent traces.
There is something I learned from LE recently and that is when someone commits murder for the first time, they usually have an emotional rush where they make dumb mistakes. Isn't there a similar reaction the first time you see someone OD, or just die in front of you, especially a young friend?
Mistakes like picking up the phone and calling 2 people suddenly at 4:15?
Or mistakes like picking up the phone and calling JR at 3:30?
Was this cover up really so squeaky clean for first timers? Or are there a lot of little pieces being put together that will eventually get them?
Or... was this not the first time someone has had to do something like this?
Think about it, even combat trained soldiers who see someone get killed for the first time are often very freaked out. How does a cover up get pulled off so cleanly and to the point it's followed up with total arrogance?
That's what really bugs me about this case.