IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 #36

[INfisherman]

JMO I have always felt the friends knew something but it is way past time for them to speak up.

If they haven’t by now will they ever?

Doubtful. Those boys lawyered up quickly & nothing definitive linked them to her disappearance. BPD aren’t known for their stellar investigations IMO. Just ask Joseph Smedley’s sister.

MOO

 

[threesevenninefour]

I’ve been following this one for a long time. I’ve never believed that Lauren’s guy friends had anything to do with her disappearance—they were a bunch of sheltered, rich college kids, not criminal masterminds. Not to mention they were all also very intoxicated that night. The likelihood that they would have been able to not only dispose of a body in a manner that kept it hidden for so long, but also keep such a large, dark secret all these years seems slim to none. The lawyering up never bothered me because, again, they all came from well-off families who know the importance of obtaining legal counsel before talking to the police, even when “innocent.” Now, that doesn’t excuse the fact that they should have been looking out for Lauren and never should have let her leave that apartment alone—but again, youth, naivety, drunkenness, and possible drug use all factor in here.

I’ve always believed that Lauren either had the extreme misfortune of running into killer that night when she was walking alone visibly unwell or that her intoxication/possible drug use/heart condition led to her wandering off and possibly passing away somewhere due to natural causes.

If this does end up being her, I pray that there is enough information to be found that can definitively give some closure to her family. No matter what happened, it’s extremely tragic. She was so young and had a bright future ahead of her and a family who has never given up on finding her.

All MOO.

 

[DS2021]

Federal Agents Conduct Operation at Home on Xavier Court Friday in Bloomington - The Bloomingtonian

Update: Since publication, the Bloomingtonian obtained a termination letter dated March 28, 2025, from IU Provost Rahul Shrivastav, officially ending the professor’s employment on the same day as an FBI raid; however, a source previously told the Bloomingtonian the professor was suspended in...

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Fwiw, I don't think these remains are hers.

There's another case that stands out much more

 

[DS2021]

Oh WOAH

Federal Agents Conduct Operation at Home on Xavier Court Friday in Bloomington - The Bloomingtonian

Update: Since publication, the Bloomingtonian obtained a termination letter dated March 28, 2025, from IU Provost Rahul Shrivastav, officially ending the professor’s employment on the same day as an FBI raid; however, a source previously told the Bloomingtonian the professor was suspended in...

bloomingtonian.com

However, property records show the house is owned by a former IU professor—whose online profile has since been removed—and another individual who still has an IU employee page. We are withholding their names, as there is no indication either has been charged with a crime, and the reason for the FBI’s presence at the property Friday remains unclear.

A source shared with the Bloomingtonian that the professor, who worked in Luddy at Indiana University was fired in early March 2025 and then all the websites at the University with his name were scrubbed out of existence. No explanation was given to his university colleagues for his firing.

 

[INfisherman]

Looks like the FBI were looking at a home in Bloomington & also in Carmel yesterday. Hard to tell if this is even related to the remains found Thursday.

Unsure if this will end up being behind a paywall after one visit:

The FBI searched homes in Bloomington and Carmel belonging to an IU professor and an IU Libraries analyst Friday. The agency declined to comment on the nature of the search.

An IU spokesperson did not say whether the professor, Xiaofeng Wang at the Luddy School of Informatics, Computing, and Engineering professor, was still employed at the university — and referred the Indiana Daily Student to the FBI for information.

FBI searches two homes belonging to IU Luddy professor and library analyst

The FBI did not comment on the nature of the searches.

www.idsnews.com

This will be free but doesn’t name the professor:

FBI seizes boxes of evidence after searching Carmel, Bloomington homes

The agency will not say why or who they are investigating.

www.wthr.com

 

[ssarahbg]

I believe it’s the area circled in red, just north of Bloomington North High School, indicated by the red arrow. Acuff used to cross SR37 before it was turned into I-69. Would be west of Walnut St. & north of SR46 & south of the Walnut St. exit.

I hope it’s Lauren but it could be anyone - Morgan & Monroe counties are likely full of missing people.
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Joseph Giza is another possibility along with several others missing in the area. He went missing in Bloomington in 2009.

 

[INfisherman]

Joseph Giza is another possibility along with several others missing in the area. He went missing in Bloomington in 2009.

Thank you for the information. Hopefully an ID can be made. I saw another body had been found down there in a van recently as well.

I was born in Bloomington & lived there until 1980 - a ways north on Old SR 37, out past Marlin Elementary. Still go down there frequently to fish & visit a few friends who have lived there all their lives. My mom taught at Eastern (Greene) & Edgewood prior to us moving just south of Indy.

 

[IslandGirlOBX]

Joseph Giza is another possibility along with several others missing in the area. He went missing in Bloomington in 2009.

Margaret Hayes, who had completed seven semesters at Indiana University at the time of her disappearance, was last seen at 11 p.m. on March 10, 1977, after leaving her home in the 700 block of Atwater Avenue in Bloomington, Indiana. The last sighting of her at this location is about 4.2 miles (or approximately 11 minutes by vehicle today (per Google Maps) to the location where the human remains were found off West Acuff Road in Bloomington.

Here is the thread for Margaret Hayes: IN - IN - Margaret Ann Hayes, 22, Bloomington, 10 Mar 1977

From the Charley Project:
"Hayes left behind all her clothes, her luggage, her checkbook, and her Indiana University student identification card. Her apartment was in an orderly condition when she left it. Hayes had completed seven semesters at Indiana University at the time of her disappearance, majoring in social services. She was unsure as to whether she wanted to continue with that major and had taken a semester off to decide whether to complete her degree or start again with another major."

Margaret Ann Hayes – The Charley Project

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All MOO, IMO.

 

[ssarahbg]

Margaret Hayes, who had completed seven semesters at Indiana University at the time of her disappearance, was last seen at 11 p.m. on March 10, 1977, after leaving her home in the 700 block of Atwater Avenue in Bloomington, Indiana. The last sighting of her at this location is about 4.2 miles (or approximately 11 minutes by vehicle today (per Google Maps) to the location where the human remains were found off West Acuff Road in Bloomington.

Here is the thread for Margaret Hayes: IN - IN - Margaret Ann Hayes, 22, Bloomington, 10 Mar 1977

From the Charley Project:
"Hayes left behind all her clothes, her luggage, her checkbook, and her Indiana University student identification card. Her apartment was in an orderly condition when she left it. Hayes had completed seven semesters at Indiana University at the time of her disappearance, majoring in social services. She was unsure as to whether she wanted to continue with that major and had taken a semester off to decide whether to complete her degree or start again with another major."

Margaret Ann Hayes – The Charley Project

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All MOO, IMO.

My mom was living there then and remembers when this happened.

 

[ssarahbg]

Thank you for the information. Hopefully an ID can be made. I saw another body had been found down there in a van recently as well.

I was born in Bloomington & lived there until 1980 - a ways north on Old SR 37, out past Marlin Elementary. Still go down there frequently to fish & visit a few friends who have lived there all their lives. My mom taught at Eastern (Greene) & Edgewood prior to us moving just south of Indy.

When I lived there for college 99-02, we loved to go to that area to the Cascades park. Right around the corner from here.

 

[INfisherman]

When I lived there for college 99-02, we loved to go to that area to the Cascades park. Right around the corner from here.

Yeah, I know where the area is.

I lived out near Dolan twice & for a short while off of Bethel Lane, which are all north & out in the country, until I was 9. I didn’t spend much time over in Cascades other than when my dad was playing softball for a couple of years & I probably wasn’t even in elementary school. My dad owned an insurance business on North Walnut just south of the Create A Smile dentist’s office, which wasn’t there back then, neither was the Speedway gas station. I returned for a couple of years when I was at IU in the early 90s. It’s changed so much since back then.

 

[IceIce9]

The firing of the IU professor appears to be about grants and funding

https://www.idsnews.com/article/2025/04/nianli-ma-wang-xiaofeng-fbi-iu



A document previously obtained by the IDS, written by a close collaborator, shows IU was looking into a 2017-18 Chinese grant proposal Wang was listed on in December.
The university asked Wang to explain why he was listed on that grant, which he allegedly had not disclosed to IU, according to the document. The university notified Wang in February it would investigate further.
Then in early March, the document said, Wang told IU that he had accepted an offer from an unidentified Singaporean university and was set to start in June. The document alleges the university responded by putting him on administrative leave, wiping his IU web page and disabling his email.
On March 28, the FBI searched Ma and Wang’s homes in Carmel and Bloomington

 

[Unalienable Rights]

Fourteen Years After IU Student Lauren Spierer Vanished, the Search Continues

The heart-wrenching disappearance of Lauren Spierer remains unsolved. Her family is still searching for answers.

wkdq.com

June 3, 2025

 

[DS2021]

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Bloomington human remains confirmed to be man missing since 2022

BLOOMINGTON, Ind. — Human remains discovered at a dig site in Bloomington in late March have finally been identified. The Monroe County Coroner’s Office confirmed that dental records matched …

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The Monroe County Coroner’s Office confirmed that dental records matched the remains to John E. Baker Jr., 40, of Bloomington.