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I never thought it would happen close to home, that’s for sure.
GUILTY IN - Noblesville, school Shooting, In Custody,Two Enroute To Hospital, May 2018
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Agree with this:
Why Americans don't do anything about mass shootings (opinion) - CNN
Why Americans don't do anything about mass shootings
Updated 12:10 PM ET, Thu February 15, 2018
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Everyone knows someone who has been diagnosed with cancer. That's why we give a damn about solving the problem of cancer.
Virtually everyone knows someone who has died of an opioid overdose. That's why we care enough to declare it a public health crisis.
We are dangerously close to a moment in time when every one of us will know someone who has been shot in a mass shooting. And unfortunately, based on the research, that's what it's going to take for us to care. It has to become personal.
Why the apathy?
Until gun violence impacts your family directly, you won't care enough to do something about it. There's a ton of research to explain this apathy.
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Why Americans don't do anything about mass shootings (opinion) - CNN
Why Americans don't do anything about mass shootings
Updated 12:10 PM ET, Thu February 15, 2018
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Everyone knows someone who has been diagnosed with cancer. That's why we give a damn about solving the problem of cancer.
Virtually everyone knows someone who has died of an opioid overdose. That's why we care enough to declare it a public health crisis.
We are dangerously close to a moment in time when every one of us will know someone who has been shot in a mass shooting. And unfortunately, based on the research, that's what it's going to take for us to care. It has to become personal.
Why the apathy?
Until gun violence impacts your family directly, you won't care enough to do something about it. There's a ton of research to explain this apathy.
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An extremely violent act on campus that hospitalized and almost killed a classmate of my youngest daughter (acts that were preceded by & followed by other aggressive acts involving the same violent kid) at her school & the school's refusal to take it seriously is what compelled me to homeschool her. This was/is an affluent school district/community with many resources and supposedly educated parents, yet a blind eye was turned.
The school principal's ridiculous 'solution': The end of year trip for my daughter's class was a ropes course (of all things), so all the kids could learn to "work together". Because a ropes course was the answer to an increasingly violent kid's dangerous behavior, doncha know.
I had a private meeting with the principal to discuss the situation. After hearing what he had to say, my last words to him were "I don't trust that [insert my daughter's name] will be safe if she continues to attend classes with [insert boy's name]. My daughter won't be returning to school next year in this school district." And she didn't.
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When a middle school boy allegedly opened fire at his Indiana school, the science teacher immediately ran and tackled him to the ground, one student in the classroom told ABC News.
'Hero' teacher tackled gunman, student says: 'Most people would never dare'
'Hero' teacher tackled gunman, student says: 'Most people would never dare'
I don't blame you.
The Latest: Student says teacher threw basketball at shooter
The Latest: Student says teacher threw basketball at shooter
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Stonebraker called Seaman "very brave" and a "hero." He said he and other classmates crouched for cover behind a table.
Stonebraker said he also knows the gunman, who he called "a nice kid most of the times." He said he often makes jokes with his classmates and "it's just a shock that he would do something like that."
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The Latest: Student says teacher threw basketball at shooter
- By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
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Stonebraker called Seaman "very brave" and a "hero." He said he and other classmates crouched for cover behind a table.
Stonebraker said he also knows the gunman, who he called "a nice kid most of the times." He said he often makes jokes with his classmates and "it's just a shock that he would do something like that."
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I , of course, have no idea of your district. I know that parents would talk to me about poorly behaved students in my class.
I told them that I could not discuss the student with them the same as I would not discuss their child with other parents.
I could never tell them that we had a team working on evaluating the child which takes a couple of months if all goes well.
If the child is special needs, then a whole new process is required.
Dealing with children’s behavior is a big problem because parents have gone to Congress and gotten all kinds of rights for kids.
There is due process for all kids.
So who knows what your principal was doing. I hope more than a rope course.
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Noblesville neighbors had called the police several times about seeing the 13 year old school shooter outside with guns before yesterday’s tragedy. Indiana has a Child Access Prevention law - let’s see if it’s used to charge the negligent gun owner.
Neighbors say police were aware of suspected shooter's affinity for guns
Neighbors say police were aware of suspected shooter's affinity for guns
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It looks like that happened the Friday before Santa Fe, going by the date on the article. So school shootings three Friday’s in a row. Sounds about right.
I was still thinking about this alarming story when I went to sleep last night... trying to figure out what I would have done had I been in your shoes. I'm now ashamed to say that I would have almost certainly not removed my only child... a son... from the school.
I tried to figure out what I would have done had my only child been a daughter instead. (In either case, I would have raised holy hell with the school board!) I feel sure I would have been more concerned/worried about her safety, but would I have pulled her out of that school??? That's the question that kept me awake...
The only conclusion that I found easy to come to is that you are one gutsy lady and I applaud your putting a potential danger to your daughter's wellbeing above any inconvenience to yourself !!
Hero teacher who played at SIU out of hospital
"The ex-college football player turned high school teacher who played hero during a school shooting Friday in Indiana has been released from the hospital.
Jason Seaman was released from an Indianapolis hospital a day after helping stop the shooter who had opened fire at Noblesville West Middle School on Friday morning. Seaman, a former defensive lineman at Southern Illinois, underwent surgery after he was shot three times -- in his abdomen, hip and forearm."
So glad Hero JS is well enough to leave the hospital.
"The ex-college football player turned high school teacher who played hero during a school shooting Friday in Indiana has been released from the hospital.
Jason Seaman was released from an Indianapolis hospital a day after helping stop the shooter who had opened fire at Noblesville West Middle School on Friday morning. Seaman, a former defensive lineman at Southern Illinois, underwent surgery after he was shot three times -- in his abdomen, hip and forearm."
So glad Hero JS is well enough to leave the hospital.
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With all due respect, I have found this thinking to be part of the problem in the US regarding shootings of any kind.
One has to have a school shooting happen close to home in order to appreciate the magnitude of it?
If so, how many more school shootings will it take for US citizens to come together and deal with the problem? It is a problem, right?
It's called apathy. Most people don't genuinely CARE until it affects them personally.
I posted this opinion yesterday (post #22 on this thread):
Why Americans don't do anything about mass shootings (opinion) - CNN
Why Americans don't do anything about mass shootings
February 15, 2018
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Why the apathy?
Until gun violence impacts your family directly, you won't care enough to do something about it. There's a ton of research to explain this apathy.
After World War II, the famous Cambridge psychologist J.T. MacCurdy studied an interesting phenomenon about the bombings in London in 1940 and 1941.
He found that people affected by the bombings fell into three categories: those who died, those who were a "near miss" (who closely witnessed the horror of the bombings but lived), and those who had a "remote miss" (people who may have heard the sirens, but were removed from the direct scene of the bombing).
Here's what's interesting. MacCurdy found the people who witnessed a "near miss" were deeply affected by the bombing -- while the "remote miss" group felt invincible and even excited.
They were far enough away from the event and had survived, leading them to feel invulnerable and no longer scared.
Until you've experienced a "near miss," it's easy for your mind to compartmentalize mass shootings that you hear about -- thinking they will never affect you.
A great example of this is country musician Caleb Keeter, who performed at the concert in Las Vegas and experienced a near miss. He now cares:
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We must admit that we have a problem that we want to solve. Because if we don't start now, we'll all be waiting like sitting ducks for the next psycho with too many guns, accessories and ammo to pick off our friends, family and children one by one. You'll face a direct hit. Then you'll care.
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Teacher who tackled gunman speaks out for the first time since getting shot - CNN
When an armed student entered his Indiana classroom and started firing, the teacher lunged at the shooter and stopped the gunfire.
"My actions on that day, in my mind, were the only acceptable actions I could have done," said Seaman, a 7th-grade science teacher at Noblesville West Middle School.
"I deeply care for my students and their well-being. So that is why I did what I did."
When an armed student entered his Indiana classroom and started firing, the teacher lunged at the shooter and stopped the gunfire.
"My actions on that day, in my mind, were the only acceptable actions I could have done," said Seaman, a 7th-grade science teacher at Noblesville West Middle School.
"I deeply care for my students and their well-being. So that is why I did what I did."
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