GUILTY IN - Shaylyn Ammerman, 14 mos, Spencer, 23 March 2016 #2

[J4cknsal1y]

I stopped posting after Shaylyn was found, mainly because it was starting to look like Kyle acted alone and well, I had nothing nice to say about the family even if that was the case. IMO it makes more sense that this was yet another "family friend murders child" incident than some sort of family conspiracy. I was waiting for the formal charges to be announced. Ugh, maybe not too surprising but so ugly nevertheless.

Having said that, after reading the following I don't think I can muster up the expected sympathy for the family - or at least some of the family members:

Adam Ammerman told police that he saw Kyle Parker leaving the house between 3:00 and 4:00 am. Adam saw that Parker was carrying something. Adam told investigators he yelled to say good-bye to Parker, but Parker would not turn around. Adam said he thought he saw a foot dangling from Parker's side but wasn't sure. He went back to bed at that point.

Adam Ammerman also told police that his mother walked into the house one day and found Kyle Parker sitting in a rocking chair drunk, holding Shaylyn in his lap. He told police Kyle liked to watch pornographic movies which featured people being spanked. Police interviewed some of Kyle Parker's other friends, who said he liked pornographic videos with sadistic and masochistic themes, and that Kyle Parker was attracted to younger girls 12 to 14 years old, something Parker denied when he was being questioned by police later.

http://www.wthr.com/story/31576523/new-details-possible-monday-in-shaylyn-ammerman-investigation

RIP little Shaylyn. :rose:

i am absolutely sick after reading all of that.

I do have to wonder, though, didn't AA initially say in an interview that Kyle was NOT to his knowledge carrying anything/didn't have
shaylyn when he saw him leaving the house around 3-4am?

Why did tamera recently say at least Shaylyn was found with her clothes on, if, in fact(?) she was found naked & her clothes are believed to have been burnt nearby
her body?

Also curious as to why it was initially mentioned that Kyle had once rocked Shaylyn to sleep, & seemingly that was the family tying to reiterate that Kyle was a good guy? Now it says tamera found him rocking Shaylyn, drunk, one morning. I'm sorry, but if I was in her position, I wouldn't probably let that creep in my home ever again-especially not when the baby was there. And I certainly wouldn't be making it seem like he was somewhat unknown, but a decent guy from what I did know, when he was in my home during the timeframe the baby went missing. I'd be on the mountain tops screaming about what a creep he was the second I noticed she was gone, making sure LE & everyone else was looking for him.

i feel like Kyle is guilty, but the family twisting their stories, that portrayed Kyle as an ok, trustable guy initially after shaylyn's disappearance, to what they are saying now, just screams to me that they are trying to cover the involvement of at least one more person; IMO at least one of them.

i see it says AA passed his polygraph. <modsnip>

 

[AnnaGrace]

In one of the early interviews (maybe the phone call with the journalist?), Justin said he thought Shaylyn's abduction might be in retaliation for something. I wonder if there was a reason that Kyle took Shaylyn and subsequently raped and murdered her? Was he trying to get back at the brothers for some (real or perceived) misdeed, or is he just a sick, perverted SOB?

IMO. He's just a sick and perverted SOB.

 

[J4cknsal1y]

There is quite a bit I don't understand. I thought maybe the coroner was holding back on a lot and that unfortunately, has proven to be true. If someone disagrees, or has an explanation for the following, I would love to hear it.

They destroyed her crib with a hammer? Why wasn't the crib taken as evidence? Wouldn't you think LE would go over that with a fine tooth comb for blood, semen, hair, fingerprints? Now it is lost? Physical/forensic evidence could prove that Kyle touched the crib, left skin cells as he took baby, etc. Now it is destroyed? I wouldn't be surprised to hear that the family put it in the burn barrel out back which I'm guessing they have one. I don't get it...that crib is HUGE EVIDENCE. Unless Kyle was in a HAZMAT suit, he left evidence of himself in that crib. I think that is a pretty important thing to prove.

I was thinking the same thing... Did the family decide to bust apart the crib & burn it (burning=my assumption) because now that Kyle is charged, they didn't want any evidence to be found (or not found) via the crib, that could implicate that Kyle did not act alone? IMO they seem like they may believe that to be a 'smart' move & would be the key to getting away with anything any of thdm
may be guilty of?

 

[Bravo]

I have given some thought to this Family and their lifestyle. Most of us here have never lived it or would even entertain doing so with a young child. I know Hubby and I never did. If we had a function to attend when our kids were young they went to the Grandparents for the night. Now are kids are grown adults. One married and one about to be next month. A few times over the years our kids have dropped in while hubby and I have the 80's tunes blaring from the Family room while we dance our sox off. And an open bottle of Pinio. To which they say "what the sam hay is going on here" And we reply "having the odd occasion to make up for lost time "LOL Sorry to derail. I just get some folks don't provide a safe environment for young children. Sadly.

 

[birdsmomma]

I see that KR wrote on JA picture on facebook "we are no longer together now, he broke up with me. I moved on"

I'm guessing this is her way of speaking out.

 

[pepelepolecat]

"Parker, who appeared from the jail over a video link, asked for a public defender. Parker said he has not worked since last year when he had a job at a Terre Haute nursing and rehab center."

http://www.indystar.com/story/news/...arged-rape-murder-1-year-olds-death/82336526/

More access to easy victims ...

Because I don't think he's a pedophile. I think he's an opportunistic monster.

 

[desert-blue]

I am so damn angry right now and can't write in a public forum what I want to say. I will tell you, however, that Kyle isn't the only being I'm cursing.

At best, the family members living at that house were grossly negligent in their care of Shaylyn; at worst, they could be directly or indirectly involved in one or more of the crimes that KP has been charged with. These people all disgust me.

 

[Bravo]

More access to easy victims ...

Because I don't think he's a pedophile. I think he's an opportunistic monster.

Agree. I don't think he cared as long as he could carry out his sick fantasy with those who were vulnerable and unable to speak out. Did he move on to murder because the act no longer provided the same thrill????? Or did the act move on to a level of violence that he had to?

 

[AnnaGrace]

Needless to say I've thought of nothing but this since I read the charges earlier. I can't bear to think about what little Shaylyn suffered at the hands of this devilish monster. There's no punishment that's severe enough for what he has done.

As for the four adults living in the household, they should be charged at the very least with neglect and child endangerment. This was so preventable and they so miserably failed to protect their innocent baby. I just can't wrap my head around any of their actions. I have no faith at all in anything they've said because of the contradictory statements given in every interview. Poor little Shaylyn never had a chance to live the life she so deserved and it's heartbreaking.

 

[LaborDayRN]

The comments on Justin's SM page are horrific.

Wow......the comments on his page! I don't know how much of it is true, there are several screen shots in the comments. If any of them are true, I would think there would be more arrests.

 

[Bravo]

Are the comments on FB? TIA I don't do FB so I cant see what is being said.

 

[Wolf Dreamer]

With all due respect, do you think someone who could look into a baby's face, beat and rape her as she cries, then murder her, has the ability to care and suffer?

Of course they do. It's only others they don't care about, they are the centre of their own world. He's probably drowning in self-pity as I type.

 

[Butler]

As SOON as I read that I had the exact same thought!! How does that conversation even go, anyway? Oh, by the way dad yeah, I did that. Okay son, let's you and I mosey on down to the PD and have a chat with the homicide detectives.

Sorry but, I'd have to call 911 myself and inform them I was about to do something awful and they'd better get a cop out to my house NOW if they wanted him alive and in one piece.

They were already at the police station. The step father was the one who got KP to tell police what he had done. I think he is one of the good guys in all this, the step father I mean.

 

[SuzDuJour]

I still don't understand how the family could destroy the crib and why wasn't it taken as evidence??

He raped her in the car...what evidence would you expect in the crib?

 

[kammiemc]

If seeing KP leave in the wee hours with the baby (who else's dangling foot would it be?) wasn't a big enough deal to make AA get up and do anything about it, I can't help but wonder what else he (and possibly others) turned a blind eye to. I have a terrible feeling that it's possible that there isn't much that would strike him as a big enough deal to require intervention.


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[Trident]

i am absolutely sick after reading all of that.

I do have to wonder, though, didn't AA initially say in an interview that Kyle was NOT to his knowledge carrying anything/didn't have
shaylyn when he saw him leaving the house around 3-4am?

Why did tamera recently say at least Shaylyn was found with her clothes on, if, in fact(?) she was found naked & her clothes are believed to have been burnt nearby
her body?

Also curious as to why it was initially mentioned that Kyle had once rocked Shaylyn to sleep, & seemingly that was the family tying to reiterate that Kyle was a good guy? Now it says tamera found him rocking Shaylyn, drunk, one morning. I'm sorry, but if I was in her position, I wouldn't probably let that creep in my home ever again-especially not when the baby was there. And I certainly wouldn't be making it seem like he was somewhat unknown, but a decent guy from what I did know, when he was in my home during the timeframe the baby went missing. I'd be on the mountain tops screaming about what a creep he was the second I noticed she was gone, making sure LE & everyone else was looking for him.

i feel like Kyle is guilty, but the family twisting their stories, that portrayed Kyle as an ok, trustable guy initially after shaylyn's disappearance, to what they are saying now, just screams to me that they are trying to cover the involvement of at least one more person; IMO at least one of them.

i see it says AA passed his polygraph. <modsnip>

Good post. You make a lot of good points, ones I was thinking about myself. "Oh what a tangled web we weave . . ."

:cow:

 

[verbonica]

Are the comments on FB? TIA I don't do FB so I cant see what is being said.

Yeah, I'm not on FB either. Some FB pages are public and anyone can read them (but not comment). If not, though, we are pretty much SOL, because IIRC, quotes from personal FB are not allowed here?

 

[Bravo]

Not saying I could do this but a friend of mine has a form of Justice for like this. Nail the Family Jewells to a tree stump. Douse the Jewells and stump with gasoline. Then you light a match. Just sayin......

 

[birdsmomma]

Wow......the comments on his page! I don't know how much of it is true, there are several screen shots in the comments. If any of them are true, I would think there would be more arrests.

What is a SM page? I'm sorry, not familiar.

 

[verbonica]

He raped her in the car...what evidence would you expect in the crib?

True, but would they have known that from the start of the investigation? Someone else suggested that perhaps LE took the bedding... that's possible, I suppose.