GUILTY IN - Zuhur, 4, & Zakariya Hassan, 3, found dead in closet, Indianapolis, 19 Sept 2010

[Belinda]

She knew enough not to allow anyone into her apartment after she put the bodies of the children on the couch.

 

[Paintr]

http://www.theindychannel.com/news/25179531/detail.html

Judge Orders Psych Exam For Woman Charged In Kids' Deaths
Ebyan Farah Barred From Contacting 3 Surviving Children

Defense attorney Mark King said he asked for the psychological exam and a physical checkup because he's worried that Farah wasn't eating properly before the Sept. 19 deaths and might still not be eating well because her Muslim beliefs could bar her from eating some jail food.


King said the fact that Farah has been separated from her surviving children is "killing her, emotionally and physically."

 

[Belinda]

King said the fact that Farah has been separated from her surviving children is "killing her, emotionally and physically."

From Paintr's link. I'm sorry, but spare me the sob story. We are always supposed to feel so sorry for these people after they murder their children. These children were subjected to continuous abuse.

 

[Paintr]

http://www.wibc.com/news/Story.aspx?id=1285187

The Indianapolis woman charged in the deaths of two of her children will stand trial November 29.

snip...

Borges will hold a hearing next week on a defense request for a gag order in the case.

 

[Paintr]

http://www.fox59.com/news/wxin-ebyan-farah-back-in-court-092710,0,660044.story


Judge refuses to lower bond for mother of dead children
An Indianapolis mother accused in the death of two of her children will not be getting out of jail.

Farah is not allowed to attend her children's funerals.

 

[RoseWhite]

From Paintr's link. I'm sorry, but spare me the sob story. We are always supposed to feel so sorry for these people after they murder their children. These children were subjected to continuous abuse.

Exactly! "Boohoo! I miss the rest of my children that I didn't manage to kill."

??? Seriously???

 

[believe09]

Waiting to see if the next line of defense is her own malnutrition. Which was voluntary, I might add as opposed to her children's.

She has some sharp lawyers and I am wondering how that came about.

 

[Paintr]

Waiting to see if the next line of defense is her own malnutrition. Which was voluntary, I might add as opposed to her children's.

She has some sharp lawyers and I am wondering how that came about.

believe...you guessed it....


http://www.therepublic.com/view/story/5a9f5e7bb7204347bbe2776b47cc9a3f/IN--Child_Deaths-Indianapolis/

Defense attorney Mark King said he asked Marion Superior Court Judge Lisa Borges to order the exam and grant a physical checkup because Ebyan Farah wasn't eating properly before the Sept. 19 deaths of her 4-year-old daughter, Zuhur Farah Hassan, and 3-year-old son, Zakariya Farah Hassan.

"Based on the fact she's Muslim and what the jail normally feeds, I don't believe she's eating properly while in the jail. I'm very concerned that her chemical imbalances may be off, which will hurt ability to understand what's happening around her," King said.

 

[Lovejac]

http://www.fox59.com/news/wxin-ebyan-farah-back-in-court-092710,0,660044.story


Judge refuses to lower bond for mother of dead children
An Indianapolis mother accused in the death of two of her children will not be getting out of jail.

Farah is not allowed to attend her children's funerals.

Bolded by me.

Well, Good! I'm GLAD. She didn't "attend" to them during their life, why should she after their death!!! :furious:

 

[sorrell skye]

According to the 7 year old daughter's statements to LE, being barricaded in the closet as a punishment, or to keep them from being "underfoot" while the mother was *cooking*, was nothing new.

Farah's claim that she "wasn't in her right mind" on that fateful day holds about as much water as Dear Liza's bucket, as far as I'm concerned. This wasn't an isolated event - it had happened before. Is she going to claim that she wasn't in her right mind all those other times that she locked them in the closet, as well?

The way she treated her children was despicable & inexcusable. It was child abuse - no ifs, ands, or buts.

I'm not buying the "I wasn't in my right mind" defense.

Those little children suffered for 10+ hours while Farah was doing who knows what with who knows who @ the neighbor's apartment.

One thing is certain - she WASN'T tending to her young children & seeing to their well-being.

Another thing that's certain is that 2 of her children died because of her ongoing abuse.

I'll save my pity & sympathy for the helpless little ones who trusted their *mother* to care for them.

ETA: And another thing - she's now allegedly starving herself while incarcerated because the jail food isn't Halal? She's obviously in enough of a right mind to observe religious dietary law (which indicates to me that she has a sense of right & wrong, at least in terms of her upbringing).

Which begs the question: was she not brought up to believe that the neglect & abuse of children is evil, and that to do so might put her mortal soul in as much (if not more) danger, as swallowing food that isn't Halal?

Does she believe that her children (and their treatment) are less sacred than religious dietary law?

IMO, it would appear so, based on her actions.

 

[Paintr]

http://www.indystar.com/article/20100928/NEWS02/9280333/Judge-OKs-exams-in-locked-closet-deaths?odyssey=tab%7Ctopnews%7Ctext%7CIndyStar.com

More than 20 friends and family members from the local Somali Muslim community, including Farah's husband, attended the hearing.
Also Monday, defense attorneys reiterated their desire for an independent autopsy of the two children. The judge gave them until Thursday, when the children's bodies would be released to family members for burial.

 

[believe09]

believe...you guessed it....


http://www.therepublic.com/view/sto...e2776b47cc9a3f/IN--Child_Deaths-Indianapolis/

Defense attorney Mark King said he asked Marion Superior Court Judge Lisa Borges to order the exam and grant a physical checkup because Ebyan Farah wasn't eating properly before the Sept. 19 deaths of her 4-year-old daughter, Zuhur Farah Hassan, and 3-year-old son, Zakariya Farah Hassan.

"Based on the fact she's Muslim and what the jail normally feeds, I don't believe she's eating properly while in the jail. I'm very concerned that her chemical imbalances may be off, which will hurt ability to understand what's happening around her," King said.

How did I know you ask...:innocent:

I think the defense is pulling out the stops-should they be offering her muslim food at the jail in order to ensure a fair trial? I think the points raised above regarding Halal are EXCELLENT and are absolutely indicative of reasoned choices. She also put a bed against the door and decided that one of the children would not be placed inside the closet. There is certainly some reasoning there. And most telling, IMO, is her determination not to let anyone call 911 or let them into the apartment.

How about when she was free before this tragedy when she was (not) choosing to cook for herself and her children? When she was free to exercise food choices more in line with her beliefs? This will be quite a hurdle for the defense, and I also believe they will go for some type of PTSD and chemical imbalance/hormone imbalance issue.

 

[Paintr]

How did I know you ask...:innocent:

I think the defense is pulling out the stops-should they be offering her muslim food at the jail in order to ensure a fair trial? I think the points raised above regarding Halal are EXCELLENT and are absolutely indicative of reasoned choices. She also put a bed against the door and decided that one of the children would not be placed inside the closet. There is certainly some reasoning there. And most telling, IMO, is her determination not to let anyone call 911 or let them into the apartment.

How about when she was free before this tragedy when she was (not) choosing to cook for herself and her children? When she was free to exercise food choices more in line with her beliefs? This will be quite a hurdle for the defense, and I also believe they will go for some type of PTSD and chemical imbalance/hormone imbalance issue.

Judging by the way friends, family, and the community has gathered around, she had access to all kinds of support. Help was within reach.

She also has very clever lawyers. They aren't missing any possible mitigating circumstances. I have a feeling that before this trial has ended, Ms Farah will end up being painted as the victim here.

 

[Belinda]

I'm rather curious about the halal food in jail. I know there are many muslims in prison, so I would think this is an issue already dealt with. Does anybody know anything about this? Maybe it is handled in the prison system, but not local jails. Also I would think this would be an issue for kosher food as well.

 

[Paintr]

Does anyone know if, for the psych exam and medical, Farah will be escorted to the doctors or if the doctors come to the jail?

 

[tlcya]

King said the fact that Farah has been separated from her surviving children is "killing her, emotionally and physically."

Really? Really? I realize everyone is entitled to a proper defense but is this dude serious? Did he say it with a straight face? Cause that is the definition of unmitigated gall in my book.

 

[Paintr]

King said the fact that Farah has been separated from her surviving children is "killing her, emotionally and physically."

Really? Really? I realize everyone is entitled to a proper defense but is this dude serious? Did he say it with a straight face? Cause that is the definition of unmitigated gall in my book.

King is trying to make the public see the mother as the victim here.:banghead:

 

[Paintr]

http://www.wthr.com/story/13224119/mental-exam-ordered-for-mom-charged-in-deaths-of-two-children

"Obviously, what the police have told us thus far gives us rise to believe that something happened that day and that something happened may involve mental illness on her behalf," said Mark King, defense attorney. King would not say whether or not he thought his client was competent to stand trial. "I don't know that yet. I'm waiting for the psychological exams to come back."

 

[tlcya]

King is trying to make the public see the mother as the victim here.:banghead:

I realize it is strategy and tactic but it can still leave an awful taste in my mouth.

The only victims here are her two dead children and all the other children who will be unimiaginably scarred by their experiences both that day locked in teh closet with their dead siblings and countless other days when everyone in the neigbhorhood could see somethign wasn't right but not a soul said so much as a word.

 

[sorrell skye]

http://www.indystar.com/article/20100928/NEWS02/9280333/Judge-OKs-exams-in-locked-closet-deaths?odyssey=tab%7Ctopnews%7Ctext%7CIndyStar.com

More than 20 friends and family members from the local Somali Muslim community, including Farah's husband, attended the hearing.
Also Monday, defense attorneys reiterated their desire for an independent autopsy of the two children. The judge gave them until Thursday, when the children's bodies would be released to family members for burial.

BBM

I wonder why the defense attorney's are insisting on an independent autopsy of the two children? Do they really believe that another ME will reach a different conclusion than has already been determined? IMO, insisting on an independent autopsy clearly implies that they distrust the results of the official autopsy.

This is ridiculous. It's a fact that Farah barricaded her children in the closet for over 10 hours. It's a fact that two of her children died during the time they were barricaded in the closet - due to the heat and lack of oxygen (not to mention dehydration and malnutrition).

Are Farah's attorneys trying to blame her deceased children's siblings for their deaths?