Interesting article on Linda Arndt

[IrishMist]

Comfort, security, recognition, affirmation, all the things a little girl wants and needs when threatened by the boogieman.

Good point.

Very good point.

 

[narlacat]

<<The day after the 23d of Christmas party, Grandpa Paugh flew to Atlanta standby...makes you wonder if either John or Patsy told him that he was not invited to spend Christmas with them.>>

Why would he fly out on the 24th?

So close to Christmas day, you'd think he was there for Christmas day if he was there for the party on the 23rd.
He flew back to Atlanta to spend Christmas day by himself?

 

[IrishMist]

<<The day after the 23d of Christmas party, Grandpa Paugh flew to Atlanta standby...makes you wonder if either John or Patsy told him that he was not invited to spend Christmas with them.>>

Why would he fly out on the 24th?

So close to Christmas day, you'd think he was there for Christmas day if he was there for the party on the 23rd.
He flew back to Atlanta to spend Christmas day by himself?

Where was Nedra?

 

[UKGuy]

The day after the 23d of Christmas party, Grandpa Paugh flew to Atlanta standby...makes you wonder if either John or Patsy told him that he was not invited to spend Christmas with them.

Linda Arndt spoke with Patsy whom I believe was a master manipulator. LA is not the brightest person, having said she counted her bullets after looking at John.

Now she believes the Ramseys are innocent??? Like UKGuy says...it's all about money.

My belief is that things began to spin out of control on the 23d, when someone had their way with JonBenet. Whether John and Patsy had a falling out over it or if Patsy alone was aware that her daughter was being molested by Daddy Paugh, she began unravelling.

Patsy's memory of her childhood with her Daddy came flooding back on the 23d when JonBenet became the focus of Grandpa's loving attention.

The Christmas video thing is highly suspicious as was mentioned, Patsy loves to record every aspect of these childrens lives.

Toltec,

I just wonder if the tape to be used on xmas day had already been partially used, and he was on it, or something related to the events of xmas day, such as clothing, even someone stating something on tape that contradicts something later.

This is another curious aspect to this case ...

 

[capps]

All I know is my hinky meter went up when I realized that in an upper crust neighborhood where the Ramsey's lived,which probably didn't receive many police 911 calls,there were three in a very short time.

First - the 911 call that FW made for his "missing" daughter. (to be fair,all I know about this call is what I learned on the forums,I wish there was more credible info as far as dates etc.)

Second - the 911 hang up call on the 23rd

Third - the 911 call for the kidnapping/murder.

I think there was something going down before the day JB died. I think this was planned.

 

[narlacat]

Where was Nedra?

Not sure Irish.
Maybe someone else knows.

 

[mjak]

I find it very hard to believe that Patsy Ramsy would confide anything to Linda Arndt.
Why would she confide anything to the policewomen who is responsible for how contaminanted the crime scene became. Even though Ms.Arndt, is not soley to blame for her lack of skills that day I am sure Patsy would have felt some negativity ( or at least not friendship) towards Ms. Arndt. I somehow do not think she would choose her as a confident. Makes no sense to me. I think Ms Arndt's book if she publishes one will come from her own head. This dosen't mean the book might not might not have valuable information in it. It just don't think it will be Patsy's words.

mjak

 

[trixie]

Not sure Irish.
Maybe someone else knows.

In ALL the books I've read Nedra was in Atlanta on Christmas and Don went home to have Christmas with her. Also, regarding the missing video of Christmas morning, I'm sure you will remember when they did check out what was on the tape in the camcorder it was of the children washing fruit in the summertime. That's all. My thought on the missing Christmas video is if Patsy had had cancer and thought she might not be here for her children some day it seems she would want to have herself on video as much as possible for the children to look at as they were growing up. But that year she was cancer free and maybe wasn't thinking of it that way. I am curious to know if any other Christmas' were recorded by John since Dec. 1996.

 

[Camper]

I recall reading on this forum, about a video tape being found behind a rather unmoveable high backed entertainment center. As if someone had pitched it over the top behind the unit. Anyone have a source for that tidbit.

The video was found by a moving man, who went to his boss to ask what he should do with it. When he returned to the room, the tape was gone, and no one knew where 'it' went.

Wonder how the moving ceremonies happened,
a. Was the moving company left without supervision to load the van?

b. I don't remember the source for this tidbit.

c. My common sense says to me, 'Someone from the family most likely was there to supervise'.

Anyone remember the date that their home in Boulder was vacated?

-----Maybe Linda Arndt only had one bullet, I couldn't resist sorry.

Grandpa Paugh was involved in the Boulder bussiness as I recall, so perhaps Nedra had gone on to GA (IF she was in Boulder any part of that December) to prep for their family Christmas there. I don't know what her activities consisted of when she was in Boulder, the Boulder apartment was empty.

Christmas tradition suffered greatly in the Ramsey house 'that' Christmas.

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[BBB167893]

"If John thinks the book is bad news then John will try and shut it down, litigation is the means."

Well, UKGuy, if it's what I think, he'd better watch his rear end!

 

[UKGuy]

"If John thinks the book is bad news then John will try and shut it down, litigation is the means."

Well, UKGuy, if it's what I think, he'd better watch his rear end!

Patsy as a victim ?

 

[Brefie]

Did you all see this?

Ex-officer reached out to Ramsey

Snippets:

"She was imprisoned by secrets. This whole case has been imprisoned by secrets."



"I gained nothing and risked everything to contact her. And it was just the right thing to do," Arndt said.

She said 90 percent of the case details have not been disclosed accurately.

"If anyone wants to understand and make sense of this case, yes, the information I have allows them to do it," Arndt said. "You can make an informed decision, rather than uninformed speculation."

(Bold emphasis mine)

I find this to be an interesting interview- but the lines bolded above really caught my eye...

The whole "I gained nothing....." really irks me. When you reach out to a person on their deathbed, do you expect a royalty check?? WTF???

Doing an interview seems like a cheaper alternative to a book tour.

 

[LinasK]

Well, I just read Linda Arndt's testimony on A Candy Rose website. She's a real piece of work! She admits she thinks John is the murderer (She also claims she can't comment on an ongoing investigation- yet says the murderer will never be brought to justice, Thanks Linda!), yet she doesn't believe preserving the crime scene was her job!!! She's a cop first and foremost, yet she believes her mission was to intercept a kidnapper's phone call despite the fact it turned into a murder scene! She didn't stop John from bringing the body upstairs, didn't stop him from throwing a blanket over the body, and didn't stop Patsy from laying on top of the body. I think she's a lousy detective, despite the fact they say she was experienced!:razz:

Linda Arndt is no different from Lou Smit... their lack of professionalism was appalling. How did either of them ever manage to become detectives?

She also neglected to file police reports and took home her notes! That's grounds for automatic firing I'd say!

 

[BBB167893]

She'd better have something Earth-shattering to say.

 

[Holdontoyourhat]

Well, I just read Linda Arndt's testimony on A Candy Rose website. She's a real piece of work! She admits she thinks John is the murderer (She also claims she can't comment on an ongoing investigation- yet says the murderer will never be brought to justice, Thanks Linda!), yet she doesn't believe preserving the crime scene was her job!!! She's a cop first and foremost, yet she believes her mission was to intercept a kidnapper's phone call despite the fact it turned into a murder scene! She didn't stop John from bringing the body upstairs, didn't stop him from throwing a blanket over the body, and didn't stop Patsy from laying on top of the body. I think she's a lousy detective, despite the fact they say she was experienced!:razz:

She also neglected to file police reports and took home her notes! That's grounds for automatic firing I'd say!

LA was the first to see thru the fake kidnapping, and question the earlier searches of the house.

 

[LinasK]

LA was the first to see thru the fake kidnapping, and question the earlier searches of the house.

Then why didn't she search the house herself instead of sending John to do it?:banghead:

 

[aussiesheila]

Did you all see this?

Ex-officer reached out to Ramsey

Snippets:



In her first in-depth print interview, Arndt remembered Ramsey as "a lady of grace and courage and spirit, particularly in the face of such unrelenting adversity."

"She was imprisoned by secrets. This whole case has been imprisoned by secrets."

Arndt was reluctant to reveal many details of her contact with JonBenet's mother in the final year of her life.

"I gained nothing and risked everything to contact her. And it was just the right thing to do," Arndt said.

"There's no way to undo the wrong that was done (to the Ramsey family). But (it was) just to acknowledge what you could or couldn't do, and apologize for any error on my part and to offer myself in any way that was helpful to her."

Arndt would not discuss her theories of the case, saying only that she doesn't hold the "prevailing view" within the Boulder Police Department, which increasingly keyed on Patsy Ramsey. "I'm able to confirm a lot of things that Patsy was maintaining for 10 years," Arndt said.

And:

Arndt admitted she doesn't have the answers as to who did what that Christmas night to the 6-year-old who, in death, became the nation's most famous child beauty queen.


"Nobody does," Arndt said. "But I have the information, for somebody else who might. All the information is there."

She said 90 percent of the case details have not been disclosed accurately.

"If anyone wants to understand and make sense of this case, yes, the information I have allows them to do it," Arndt said. "You can make an informed decision, rather than uninformed speculation."

(Bold emphasis mine)

I find this to be an interesting interview- but the lines bolded above really caught my eye...

Yes, and my thanks for the article too, IrishMist.

Maybe after Arndt's bad experiences with the case and the BPD she was so traumatised that she sought out another traumatised woman, namely Patsy, and gained a lot of insight into what was going on for Patsy and ended up sympathising with her.

The snippets you quote are interesting. Yes I have always believed Patsy had a lot of secrets to do with her own childhood sexual abuse at the hands of her father which I am sure did happen, and how it insidiously extended to her own 3 year old daughter at a time when she, Patsy was gravely ill, and in no fit state to deal with yet another trauma.

 

[aussiesheila]

I mean, is it the same as if Arndt herself accused John of molestation and murder?

I don't think it is. I think she has done an about turn. It can happen. She was no longer a detective when she approached Patsy.

 

[BBB167893]

I guess we'll have to wait.