Irwin Attorney: ‘Jersey’ Bragged About Kidnapping Lisa Irwin

[MissJames]

You make it sound like people like this don't exist in the world. You also make it sound like psychopaths haven't abducted children before if for no other reason then to steal/kill.

I think we all know they exist ,but far more parents are involved in their child's disappearance. So couldn't the same be said of those who are defending the parents? That they make it sound as if parents like this don't exist in the world?

And we know that DB was at the scene. We haven't seen any evidence that Jersey or anyone else that might be a psychopath,was there. JMO

 

[suzilight]

They are supposed to be used to FIND dead people. If a dead person is found, the dog's job is done, and it makes no difference if cadaverine came from vomit or simply death. Right?

What is happening here is different. Some people are trying to say that a HRD hit MUST mean that a dead body was present. It doesn't work that way.

YES- all dead bodies give off cadaverine and putrescine, but NO - not all cadaverine and putrescine hiots mean there was a dead body there.

Of course LE should use dogs as a tool, the same as any of their other tools. And if the dog leads to a dead body, great! But a hit is not the same as a body.

I have not given the cadavar dog hit much weight in this case. Like you say, it is just a tool. As it did not lead to a body in this case, I keep it in mind, but in no way does it prove TO ME that Lisa was dead in that room.

 

[justamommy]

Long ago I came to the conclusion that Defense Attorneys will do and say absolutely anything to deflect from their client. And, I mean anything! They have to be accomplished liars and have no ethics, scruples or a conscience at all in order to do what they are willing to do. Period. If there was any merit to this story it would have gone to LE, not the defense attorneys for the parents. Unless LE makes a statement I don't believe a word that this attorney states.

http://www.kctv5.com/story/16077691/...for-kidnapping


When asked about Picerno's comments Friday, Capt. Steve Young told KCTV5 in an email, "We are following up on everything involving Jersey and all other leads."


Apparently it was a credible enough tip the LE is following up. Now let's see if they continue to "move on" from Jersey or clear him.

 

[Whisperer]

Maybe somebody would like to make a list of all the possible suspects or profiles of the type of person that would steal Lisa Irwin from her crib and not return her.

 

[justamommy]

BBM.

Actually, no. LE has said (link somewhere, already posted several times) that they need questions answered about who came and went from the home.

Also, JMO, but there are probably a lot of other questions that they want to ask the parents.

LE has also said they have been cooperative. jmo :twocents:

 

[Whisperer]

In the most recent baby death case in St. Louis, LE stated the mother was NOT a suspect all the way up to the minute they arrested her.

 

[Whisperer]

LE has also said they have been cooperative. jmo :twocents:

LE has now got to play political with their wording.....all thanks to criminal defense attorneys who are willing and able to nail them to the wall on any particular word they use.

We have to read between the lines nowadays....darn shame too.

 

[natsound]

LE has also said they have been cooperative. jmo :twocents:

They are not doing what police are asking them to do.

 

[tink92]

I think we all know they exist ,but far more parents are involved in their child's disappearance. So couldn't the same be said of those who are defending the parents? That they make it sound as if parents like this don't exist in the world?

And we know that DB was at the scene. We haven't seen any evidence that Jersey or anyone else that might be a psychopath,was there. JMO

Oh i know parents like that exist!...Casey Anthony....Shelby dasher....guilty as all get out...lock em up and throw away the key as far as Iam concerned!

But...DB....I need a little ole thing called ..proof...or even evidence before I will accuse the woman of murder!....Stats or no stats.

 

[justamommy]

Who is BS?

Of course it would show on their phone record. How else would anyone even know about this 50 second call at 11:57?

That is the question... which record would it show on? The more detailed records that FBI obviously has or the records that DB/JI have.

Example, my daughters phone is blocked for certain times of day (school/late night)... she can attempt a number during those times, she will get something to the effect of her call can't be made (not exact), the number she attempted is not going to show on my bill, because it was not connected. I'm sure however if FBI wanted to know any and all numbers called/attempted on her phone then they will get that info.

I think the call was attempted, FBI knows it was (more detailed records), but it is not showing on customer's phone log.:twocents:

 

[suzilight]

IIRC yesterday wasn't the first time the attorneys have said that if LE has any questions just submit them to the attorneys and the attorneys will get back at them.

It seems to me that every time the attorneys speak about the case, they say that LE can submit questions to them and they will convey the questions to DB & JI.

 

[Donjeta]

"It is important to note that there is no right or wrong way to respond to the disappearance of a child, nor is there a right or wrong way to feel."

"Finally, as hard as it may seem, try to remain hopeful. Remember that hope is more than a wish, helping you to clear this hurdle. Hope is essential to your survival."

http://www.missingkids.com/en_US/pub...s/fam_surv.pdf

SBM.

There may not be any one right way to respond to a missing child but I'm 100 % positive that there are several wrong ones.

 

[MissJames]

I don't need to be verbose about coulda/shoulda/woulda. At this point, JI/DB are innocent; they have spoken with police. There is no one under arrest and no POIs or suspects in the case. No amount of rethoric on a website is going to change these facts.



jersey/MW/Dane are the suspicious ones, if anyone is.



"The actions of parents and of law enforcement in the first 48 hours are critical to the safe recovery of a missing child, but the rawness of emotion can seriously
hinder the ability of parents to make rational decisions at this crucial time."

"It is important to note that there is no right or wrong way to respond to the disappearance of a child, nor is there a right or wrong way to feel."

"Finally, as hard as it may seem, try to remain hopeful. Remember that hope is more than a wish, helping you to clear this hurdle. Hope is essential to your survival."

http://www.missingkids.com/en_US/pub...s/fam_surv.pdf

I couldn't get the link in your post to work,but found the PDF here:

http://missingkids.com/missingkids/...?keys=family+survival+guide&sitenbr=152657769

There is much more advice included in the pdf that Irwin's might want to take to heart,if they are innocent. JMO

It's a little late,though .

 

[justamommy]

Cazzie,
What an easy question to answer-who was outside and inside the house with you the night BL disappeared?

It appears DB is afraid to answer the question. moo

This could be one of the questions answered. It just might not have been answered on LE's turf. Link to Steve Young saying they are answering questions is a few posts back.:twocents:

 

[tink92]

SBM.

There may not be any one right way to respond to a missing child but I'm 100 % positive that there are several wrong ones.

This is true....and if Deb enters any hot body contests any time soon...i might just change my mind about her.:floorlaugh:

 

[cityslick]

Matter of fact,there is. It is extremely rare for a child under the age of one to be abducted by a stranger...95%+ are killed by a parent.

Many older children are abducted by family members. Stranger abductions are usually sex related and the child is murdered. Occasionally they are enslaved, but rarely.

It's extremely rare that you can die in an airplane crash and yet people die in airplane crashes.

I don't get your point.

 

[cityslick]

I think we all know they exist ,but far more parents are involved in their child's disappearance. So couldn't the same be said of those who are defending the parents? That they make it sound as if parents like this don't exist in the world?

And we know that DB was at the scene. We haven't seen any evidence that Jersey or anyone else that might be a psychopath,was there. JMO

But yet there is evidence that DB is a psychopath?

 

[cityslick]

I'm all ears if you care to share....

Jessica Lunsford case
Elisabeth Smart case
Jaycee Dugard case

Just off the top of my head.

 

[MissJames]

Oh i know parents like that exist!...Casey Anthony....Shelby dasher....guilty as all get out...lock em up and throw away the key as far as Iam concerned!

But...DB....I need a little ole thing called ..proof...or even evidence before I will accuse the woman of murder!....Stats or no stats.

Is there proof Jersey or anyone else was involved?

 

[cityslick]

Is there proof Jersey or anyone else was involved?

No, there isn't. That's why it's called 'on the fence'. :fence: