Is Casey the real Zenaida?

[MAMABEAR]

On each of these threads everybody is talking about scams and lies and they are all going down the same road

 

[Cat13067]

I've had the theory for quite a while that KC may have been involved in or been around an idenity theft ring. Florida, like California, is a prime location for false/stolen idenity info due to influx of illegals. Car dealerships are a prime location for obtaining this info, since they can access credit info, get necessary info from potential buyers, etc. Many of these idenity thieves start very young, with their first objective being false ID's to get served in bars, liquor stores, etc. Some go on to use the false id's or sell them to others. Some start once they realize they have access to info needed to create stolen idenities. I still think one reason we have not seen certain witness interviews, etc., is because LE has an ongoing investigation into something like this, that originated with info they obtained from some witnesses/evidence in this case....maybe even the license/ card/id that the officer snatched 7/15 or 7/16 from KC's wallet that was behind her DL (mentioned in CA or LA's interview and not heard about since- CA took the $, then LE saw something behind the DL and snatched it before CA or LA saw what it was).

For those who think this id theft stuff is farfetched- it's not...my son had his idenity stolen while in college in California over 10 yrs ago. He didn't even know until he decided to stay in Calif and applied for a Calif license to replace Maryland one. Was told that he already had one and that he lived in northern Calif, not L.A.!! By the time he got that straight, there were several more IDs out their with his name, dob, ss#, etc. thoughout Calif and Nevada, etc., including traffic violations, tickets, defaulted credit cards etc. There are STILL versions of him that show up every once in a while, and he has to constantly be on guard and check all his records constantly, to make sure some bozo in Texas or Oregon hasn't gotten a FTA warrant or anything else illegally in his name!

ETA- As near as LE could figure- his info was hacked from a college database!

I think you are right on with this. GREAT POST!

 

[christee]

We gotta add a few things to that timeline too. On June 10th a young woman was murdered in Blanchard park. She was a grad student helping counsel troubled families at UCF

(http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=65962

A composite sketch of a person seen near the park was put out, and it looks eerily like LA
http://.net/index.php?topic=4198.1740

On June 16th Channel 9, the most widely watched newscasters on Central Fla aired a story about the FBI doing forensics in Blanchard park to find clues re N. Ganduzza murder.

http://www.wftv.com/news/16623103/detail.html

Could LA & KS be evil partners in crime against humanity? Did CA really see a therapist at UCF? Did KS want her bumped off and LA does her bidding? Did Lee try incest with KS when they were little and KS knows he's a perv but still trusted him to babysit (explains where baby was on dates that aren't accounted for) and she's covering for him? Isn't it better if only one of them took the rap rather than both, and that's his secret CMA promise, and is why KS said to her parents on jail video "well at least you have Lee"?

The sketch of the young man doesn't look like LA but it does look a little like RM

JMO

 

[MAMABEAR]

There is another sketch that looks like KC. Has a hood on.

 

[shgrbkr]

No. She was pulled over for running an intersection and was unable to produce a license.

I'm just disappointed that the officer didn't put the type of car or lic plate number on the citation. Where I live, they do that for EVERY traffic ticket. That would certainly add a lot of info to this possible theory.

 

[Valhall]

I understand, but why would Casey have created this persona in the first place? To get into clubs? The persona was only 3 months older than Casey. Why create a false ID at 17 that would allow her to get into clubs 4 years later and only 3 months before she could legally do it anyway?

I think I might have a possible answer to this. KC's driver's license was not issued until July 2, 2002...that's almost 4 months AFTER she turned 16. And it doesn't surprise me. When you asked this question I got to thinking about the controlling CA issue and I had a suspicion that KC wasn't allowed to get a learner's permit. If she had been able to, it would have been issued as early as September 2001.

Whether the ZG22 license was issued first as a learner's (which would have been as early as July 2001, or whether it was issued in January 2002 when ZG22 turned 16 it would have given her a license a full 7 months before she ended up getting one, and maybe as long as a year.

 

[Valhall]

I'm just disappointed that the officer didn't put the type of car or lic plate number on the citation. Where I live, they do that for EVERY traffic ticket. That would certainly add a lot of info to this possible theory.

I'm sure he did. We just don't have a copy of the actual citation and the person who says they went and looked at it didn't write that information down.

 

[Valhall]

P.S. By the way, KC's real driver's license is due to expire on March 19th. Wonder if she'll get to renew it? lol

 

[tx_Dot]

I personally do not believe a DL was produced on 05/24/08. I believe the "ZG22" stated she did not have her driver's license, gave her name and dob (01/11/86). She got a citation for not have a valid driver's license, was fingerprinted...etc.

Maybe she produced a 'matricula card' with the name ZFG on it ??

They're cheap, & can be 'bought' on any street corner.....also hard for local LE to verify as 'real'.

 

[shgrbkr]

I'm sure he did. We just don't have a copy of the actual citation and the person who says they went and looked at it didn't write that information down.

Really? Did I misunderstand when another poster put up a link that said you could view the citation there and the info wasn't on the ticket? I tried the link, but couldn't figure out how to get to the ticket. Then again, maybe I didn't understand the reply post.
I thought it would be interesting if the car were a white Sunfire or some other car that could be traced to KC friends...

 

[Valhall]

Maybe she produced a 'matricula card' with the name ZFG on it ??

They're cheap, & can be 'bought' on any street corner.....also hard for local LE to verify as 'real'.

Well, keep in mind, ZG22 (whomever that may be) DID (I have to say did now because they suspended it on 02/19/09) DID have a REAL driver's license. So we're not talking about a "fake" driver's license...we're talking about a "real" one based on false information.

 

[Valhall]

Really? Did I misunderstand when another poster put up a link that said you could view the citation there and the info wasn't on the ticket? I tried the link, but couldn't figure out how to get to the ticket. Then again, maybe I didn't understand the reply post.
I thought it would be interesting if the car were a white Sunfire or some other car that could be traced to KC friends...

No, see, the electronic record on the citation is limited in information. The REAL citation (hardcopy) is going to have all the pertinent information. Some one claims they got to look at it, but didn't write down the tag number.

 

[shgrbkr]

No, see, the electronic record on the citation is limited in information. The REAL citation (hardcopy) is going to have all the pertinent information. Some one claims they got to look at it, but didn't write down the tag number.

Is it possible for "someone" to go back and have another go at it? That info could be very telling...I'd try, but live probably 700 miles away.

 

[tx_Dot]

Well, keep in mind, ZG22 (whomever that may be) DID (I have to say did now because they suspended it on 02/19/09) DID have a REAL driver's license. So we're not talking about a "fake" driver's license...we're talking about a "real" one based on false information.

I'm sure the traffic cop made her produce something with the ZG name on it.

Seems like a 'phoney' matricula card might be some of the first steps in creating a 'phony' US identity.

U.S. born 'crooks' have also been known to use 'phony' foreign issued ID's.

 

[Clock's Tickin]

Bold & red by me. I don't know how car insurance works in fl, but here in NY, if one of my kids gets a moving violation (citation), MY car insurance goes up temendously. KC did have other traffic violations in the past, if ca gave her a hard time about it, I could see why she would not want any other tickets on her "real" license. I can also understand why she would have paid the fine as zg22. This could explain why she had the "fake" id from the start.

moo

Or....she may have been somewhere she was not supposed to be. If this was one of the occasions where she was supposed to be "working" or "out of town", I can SO see her faking it to keep it off the radar for CA and GA.

 

[justbeachy]

Is it possible for "someone" to go back and have another go at it? That info could be very telling...I'd try, but live probably 700 miles away.

How does someone get a copy of someone else's citation? Do they just stroll in there and ask to see the citation?

Since this citation could be part of this high profile case, would it even be available to the general public (assuming LE has made any connection between this citation and KC)?

I'm a newbie sleuthie...walk me through it!

 

[lin]

How does someone get a copy of someone else's citation? Do they just stroll in there and ask to see the citation?

Since this citation could be part of this high profile case, would it even be available to the general public (assuming LE has made any connection between this citation and KC)?

I'm a newbie sleuthie...walk me through it!

Check your telephone book or look online for where traffic information is held. In my county, it is separate from the clerk's office but that would be my first call. Then yes, waltz into that office and ask to see a copy of it. You'll be better off having as much information as possible to help them find it, such as date, time, citation number, correct spelling of the name(s) and anything else you can give them. Good luck!

 

[lin]

Here's a start for you:

http://orangeclerk.onetgov.net/traffic/

 

[natsound]

Someone stating they were "Zenaida Gonzalez" - dob 01/11/86 - got stopped on 05/24/08 and couldn't produce a valid driver's license....they got fingerprinted.
Zenaida Gonzalez - dob 01/11/86 has not reappeared relative to the citation since some time after 8/15/08 <=== last payment date on traffic citation

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If KC was pulled over on May 24 and misrepresented herself as ZG, wouldn't that officer remember that?

The fingerprints could easily be matched to KC if this is all true.

I'd think SA would be all over this. Why aren't they?

 

[RR0004]

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If KC was pulled over on May 24 and misrepresented herself as ZG, wouldn't that officer remember that?

The fingerprints could easily be matched to KC if this is all true.

I'd think SA would be all over this. Why aren't they?

The one thing that keeps popping into my head...in a very early interview when questioned if Casey had any kind of "history" or background that LE was aware of they acknowledged there was "something". I always thought it had to do with stealing from Cindy, but maybe it was something else.