Is Casey the real Zenaida?

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If KC is really Zanny the Nanny and she had to come up with a last name-----

does anyone else find it interesting that the remains were discovered on property behind houses where the one side was Fernandez and the other house Gonzales?????


Makes ya kinda think hmmmmmm..........................
 
If KC is really Zanny the Nanny and she had to come up with a last name-----

does anyone else find it interesting that the remains were discovered on property behind houses where the one side was Fernandez and the other house Gonzales?????


Makes ya kinda think hmmmmmm..........................

That's more than a coincidence! That's MAJOR sleuthing. Congratulations, Secretsolver, you may have hit the jackpot on that find.
 
Dem them all...

If I read the reports correctly, Casey spent the evening of June 12 looking up stuff on a Zenaida. Seeing this just chills my blood...
http://www.wftv.com/download/2008/0926/17564976.pdf
about page 10

You are reading the reports incorrectly. The searches for Zenaida took place on July 16th. This is discussed in great detail on the Zenaida time line thread. The files in which the search information was stored were created on June 12th and on October 22nd.
 
Thanks Themis!!

The more I think about this, if ya put yourself in "Caseythink"

she viewed herself as a nanny-someone that had to watch Caylee.

When Caylee was in her resting spot so to say, Casey no doubt figured the Fernandez and Gonzales households now had the job of "watching" over Caylee.

Casey no doubt thought she was soooo clever with this.

And then telling Lee and others that "somewhere between 9 and 1.

These numbers both also fit the addresses of the 2 homes in front of the remains. Just another little sprinkling of "truth" between the lies.
 
Now I'm a bit more confused, because this is from the 2009 handbook yet the link to the October 1, 2008 notice says:

2008 Driver License Handbook Insert
Term Changes (Pages 10 and 11):
For U.S. Citizens and Immigrants with Permanent Legal Presence
• Class E driver licenses for customers under age 80 will be valid for 8 years. Class E licenses for
customers 80 and older will be valid for 6 years.


http://media.nationalsafetycommission.com/handbooks/2008/2008_handbook_insert_english.pdf

Sounds like your mileage will vary...

Okay, to reconcile this in my mind I went back to the Florida Motor Vehicle code for 2001 and 2002.

Since this was an original (new) issuance of a class E license, the code in both years had an expiration date of midnight on the licensee's birthday which next occurs on or after the sixth anniversary of the date of issue. It's not until you renew that the business about less-than-safe drivers getting four year renewals kicked in.

The code changed to eight years for everyone under 80 in October 2008. I'm guessing they put the notice of the change in the on-line Drivers Handbook but left the rest of the text the same, so that it matched the printed version which may have been printed for 2009 already (The PDF document says that it is an "insert")

So assuming ZG2 dob is as on the citation, 01/11/86, and she got her license on her 16th birthday on Friday 1/11/02 and not a few days later, it would expire on midnight of 1/11/08 (otherwise it would expire on 01/11/09). So this is possible.

So depending on the date in May '08 it could have been expired less than four months, so Florida 322.065 would apply.

Were this Casey--aside from a premeditated alibi/Nanny did it defense--it doesn't seem that such a fake id would be of much value to her. The birthdate is only a couple months earlier than hers, so not too much use for under-age clubbin'.

Florida drivers licenses are fairly complex, so I'm guessing that a fake id good enough to fool an officer would be expensive. They have a mag-strip with identification info that's commonly used by more than just LE, there's holograms, an embedded digitized picture and an encoded high density bar-code as well.

Along with the change of license expiration dates on October 2008, there was a tightening of documenting a SSN numbers for licenses that might explain why an SSN for ZG2 was never verified.

Again, aside from a premeditated alibi for defense, I'm stuggling to find utility in paying fines for infractions on an expired license with an address that doesn't seem traceable back to Casey. Why not ditch this ID and start anew with a new fake ID, unless the identity has special value to you.

Pre-emptive edit: I was fixated on the license expiration & fake ID, and hadn't seen the discussion about the finger printing (when did this get in the code? after 9/11?)
 
Didn't Annie live at Sawgrass?

Annie lived there with Dante (who still resides there) but Annie left in 2007, I think.

Does anyone recall if some people who worked at Fusion were also living at Sawgrass? I seem to remember reading it but do not know if it was confirmed...
 
Oh...my.

Thank you!
PS. I loved Moonlighting.

That's funny, I loved Lancelot Link!

Still looking for the JM /ZFG interview, I'll find it!
I've been thinking though. WHAT IF..........KC somehow "lured" ZFG to Sawgrass.....no real theory yet, but I thought I'd share the thought. From ZFG's past lawsuits, we know she had some past evictions, and likely less than stellar credit, so getting approved for a lease was probably difficult. Maybe someone contacted her with a friendly tip to try Sawgrass...

The docs also include info about Tony L. touring Crane's Landing Apts. with Matt C. on 6/19. KC didn't join them on the tour (no ID). I've wondered if she was up to something in their office that day.
 
That's more than a coincidence! That's MAJOR sleuthing. Congratulations, Secretsolver, you may have hit the jackpot on that find.

not trying to steal anyone's thunder, but someone already figured out that connection a while ago. and the next thought following is..."but it still doesn't explain the sawgrass/real zfg connection".

if zfg didn't exist and the whole sawgrass drop-off convo never happened, then it would make sense to explore the property names near where caylee was found. but since all that did happen, it's unlikely that she picked that spot because of the name, or found someone to blame who just happened to have both names because of the location.

it's crazy because they can't be coincidences, but at the same time, they have to be. it just doesn't make any sense.
 
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/17122200/detail.html
Local 6 Locates, Talks To Zenaida Gonzalez In Missing Girl Mystery
Woman: No One Wants To Hire 'Suspected Kidnapper'
POSTED: Thursday, August 7, 2008
UPDATED: 8:23 am EDT August 8, 2008
(quoted from article)
***Gonzalez said she went to the apartments on June 17 to inquire about renting an apartment and filled out a guest card and gave information.***
 
I have caught myself going in this direction as well. Maybe Casey went there on the 17th to make certain "AZenaifa Gonzalez " was at Sawgrass, bolstering her lie. But, Zenaida F-G has said she went there, so I'm once again at a brick wall.
Anyone got a rope?

I'm seriously thinking that in the process of KC stalking the real ZFG to steal her identity for nefarious purposes, that she came across a post or comment or something where ZFG said she was going to look at Sawgrass apartments or that someone suggested that to her. Googling someone's name can bring up any post they make on any site on the net.
 
If KC is really Zanny the Nanny and she had to come up with a last name-----

does anyone else find it interesting that the remains were discovered on property behind houses where the one side was Fernandez and the other house Gonzales?????


Makes ya kinda think hmmmmmm..........................

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Yes it is very interesting,maybe thats how she remembered exactly where she placed her.
 
I want to know who went to the court house on 8/18/08 and paid for those copies of the ZG traffic violation. Don't you have to sign for those when you pick them up? Man, If I lived in Orlando I would LOVE to go to court house and view that information! I wonder if it could have been Lee - or someone from Baez's office?

ETA - no way it could have been anyone from Baez's office. He's too lazy.
A sleuth?
 
Dem them all...

If I read the reports correctly, Casey spent the evening of June 12 looking up stuff on a Zenaida. Seeing this just chills my blood...
http://www.wftv.com/download/2008/0926/17564976.pdf
about page 10

So, what we are finding out here is that 3 days before June 15, 2008, the date we suspect that Casey murdered Caylee after the family fight, Casey was looking up stuff on the internet on a "Zenaida." This is in addition to searching for "How to make chloroform" and "neckbreaking." This is in addition to finding the body located between two houses where the family names are apparently Fernandez and Gonzales. This is in addition to finding duct tape with a heart wrapped around the skull, over the hair and with a heart sticker on the mouth, no less. This is in addition to the risk of a custody battle with her mother. This is in addition to wanting to be independent and free of CA and GA and telling Amy that she would be getting the A family house. Premeditation anyone?!?
 
Add this "indirect" communication via myspace between CA & KS on 7/3 & 7/8.
You may have read em before but this is a short .pdf and they're on pgs 6 & 7, and the picture gets clearer.
CA dropped the ball too! Grrr
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1603690/casey-anthony-computer-report

I've always felt that KC posted that sinister picture with the why do people kill people with the Tupac poem in response to CA's July 3rd post. Why that didn't freak CA out is beyond me!
 
I haven't read all of the posts - I'm just starting through them all. But, one thing stands out at me and maybe you guys have thought more about it:

If KC is ZG22, then why even appear in court or make payments...? It's all fake. They have no way of finding her. Why not just skip out on the whole thing? I personally would be afraid that the more I showed my face, the more I would be "found out" and would want to stay far away from this whole fake person thing where the law is considered. KWIM?
Not if it was part of her assuming this new identity...the last thing she would want would be to call her attention to herself. This all had to go down around June, right?
 
So, what we are finding out here is that 3 days before June 15, 2008, the date we suspect that Casey murdered Caylee after the family fight, Casey was looking up stuff on the internet on a "Zenaida." This is in addition to searching for "How to make chloroform" and "neckbreaking." This is in addition to finding the body located between two houses where the family names are apparently Fernandez and Gonzales. This is in addition to finding duct tape with a heart wrapped around the skull, over the hair and with a heart sticker on the mouth, no less. This is in addition to the risk of a custody battle with her mother. This is in addition to wanting to be independent and free of CA and GA and telling Amy that she would be getting the A family house. Premeditation anyone?!?
I thought we figured out the Zenaida search was made after Caylee went missing. A poster explained how it all works with the creation of files and such, but I'm computer illiterate so will be of no help in explaining it any better.
 
I'm seriously thinking that in the process of KC stalking the real ZFG to steal her identity for nefarious purposes, that she came across a post or comment or something where ZFG said she was going to look at Sawgrass apartments or that someone suggested that to her. Googling someone's name can bring up any post they make on any site on the net.
Except a ZFG didn't got to SG Apts. A ZG did.
 
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