Is Casey the real Zenaida?

[TURBOTHINK]

AD, RM and SD all worked at the dealership.

I have always felt there was some connection to that dealership. Look at all the calls there right after Caylee was killed. I just have not been able to connect the dots if there is any.

 

[jjgram]

HOLY CRAP!!! I cannot believe it has taken me this long to catch this. IT COULDN'T BE PHOTOS OF THE ZENAIDA GONZALEZ THAT VISITED SAWGRASS APARTMENTS!

THIS WAS ON JULY 16TH! When they went to Sawgrass and spoke to the manager is when they first learned about the real ZG!

holy mother of pffffffft

:clap::clap::clap:
I feel the same way....
I seeeee said the Blind man....
as he picked up his hammer & SAW ! ! !

Cause of ALL of KC's :liar::liar::liar::liar::liar::liar::liar::liar::liar:'s

she and her little doggies... totto2's

have driven us all N U T S !!!

*** Oh yes... we R Not in Kansas any more !!!

~~~~~~~~~~~~~
we are NOT going to let her get by w/this !!!

We are reading her LIKE a BOOK now....

yes................ I suppose the 12 shots were of KC
12 shots/pics etc....

~~~ dang that KC get's me ticked off !!!!


Thanks for all the work HELPING ~ Seek ~ Justice ~ for Little Angel CAYLEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

God Bless !
jjgram


****** Hey... rember ~ B sure U R ~Sins will find U OUT ! ! ! !

 

[ClockWatcher]

HOLY CRAP!!! I cannot believe it has taken me this long to catch this. IT COULDN'T BE PHOTOS OF THE ZENAIDA GONZALEZ THAT VISITED SAWGRASS APARTMENTS!

THIS WAS ON JULY 16TH! When they went to Sawgrass and spoke to the manager is when they first learned about the real ZG!

holy mother of pffffffft

Not trying to rain on your parade, but... the interview was on August 6th. Here is link to the statement made by Mr. Garcia:
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1080375/0825-Casey-Anthony-Documents-released-part-1
scroll down to page 55

 

[LisaNY]

Interesting The "zg" that visited sawgrass didn't fill out the card herself. So that fixes parts of cindy's deposition.

Where she claims the spelling isn't even the same...

Yes, that would debunk that theory. ZG - whoever that was - definitely did not fill out the card. I would believe that it was not a REAL ZG, except the one in the civil suit states that she was there (doesn't she???)

If it were someone pretending to be a ZG, I could see them putting on a fake spanish accent, when the agent asks for her name it comes out Cenida Gonzalee - and he says, as he begins writing -- C E -- and she says, no it's Z-A-N- etc etc.

Would be interesting to know who's picture they were. LE has access to drivers license photos (of all the ZG's), I do not know if they can use them in a photo lineup.

MOO

 

[Valhall]

Not trying to rain on your parade, but... the interview was on August 6th. Here is link to the statement made by Mr. G.:
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1080375/0825-Casey-Anthony-Documents-released-part-1
scroll down to page 55

No, you're getting things mixed up. Harry G.s formal statement was transcribed on August 6th. Read his actual statement (page 58 of your link). He states "On July 16th..." and he recalls the visit by OCSO to the office and them showing him 12 photos on that date.

 

[ClockWatcher]

No, you're getting things mixed up. Harry Gs formal statement was transcribed on August 6th. Read his actual statement (page 58 of your link). He states "On July 16th..." and he recalls the visit by OCSO to the office and them showing him 12 photos on that date.

Holy Crap!! You're right!! I can't believe I missed that!!

:blowkiss:

 

[Valhall]

Holy Crap!! You're right!! I can't believe I missed that!!

:blowkiss:

I think what threw us off was the date of the statement by Garcia...and we didn't notice he was talking about July 16th. Because I had not noticed it at all until Turbothink put up the screencap of the actual statement.

Thank you, Turbo!!!

 

[MAMABEAR]

LOVE IT HERE! That was always on my shelf. The 12 pis of the same woman.:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:
:blowkiss:

 

[MAMABEAR]

Poot--------now I can't member if the guy picked one ovem out. Do you think that was some lind of misprint?

 

[cecybeans]

I think what threw us off was the date of the statement by Garcia...and we didn't notice he was talking about July 16th. Because I had not noticed it at all until Turbothink put up the screencap of the actual statement.

Thank you, Turbo!!!

Hmmm - maybe LE was on to this long before we thought. They obviously had several pix of KC at that point. I don't understand the reasoning of having 12 of the same person, but can see mixing several of her in with other photos.

If that mysterious white "id card" pulled out of her wallet was a ZG22 id - then LE had to know right then and there the night it all hit that her ZFG story was a fake and they wanted to know if KC had been trolling around Sawgrass for some reason.

If not, and that was the first day LE was able to interview Sawgrass employees, they may have simply wanted to know if anyone had seen KC and a child coming and going recently. And hey couldn't possibly have pix of Morgan's ZG that early if they had not even established if she existed until that very day.

 

[Valhall]

Poot--------now I can't member if the guy picked one ovem out. Do you think that was some lind of misprint?

He said "I looked at the photographs and believed I recognized one of the pictures. I told Detective Melich one of the pictures looked familiar to me and I believed the pictured person may have visited the community as a prospect. He told me all of the pictures were of the same person. He never mentioned the person's name."

 

[Valhall]

More important information comes from Amanda Macklin's statement:

"On July 16....[they tell her they are investigating a missing child case and that they have reason to believe she was left at apt 210]...I checked our database and informed the detective that Kayley [sic] nor her mother were listed as ever being a resident or applicant for residency of Sawgrass....I was questioned as to whether or not I recognized the name of Zenaida Gonzalez, which I did not. I checked for her information in our database and found she had inquired about an apartment at Sawgrass apartments in June 2008."

Okay, couple this with the statement made by Harry Garcia...

"I told him we fill out a guest card for every person who visits the property as a prospect."

If the photo is KC, and Harry Garcia really did remember her as being a prospect at Sawgrass, does this mean she didn't use her real name when she came to look at apartments???

 

[cecybeans]

He said "I looked at the photographs and believed I recognized one of the pictures. I told Detective Melich one of the pictures looked familiar to me and I believed the pictured person may have visited the community as a prospect. He told me all of the pictures were of the same person. He never mentioned the person's name."

This must either mean that CA gave them 12 different pix of KC or LE had already downloaded her photobucket stuff. A lot of those pix had KC in different hair colors and do's. I think I'd visualize the latter. It would have been a "red flag" to CA if LE asked for pix of KC that were not recent especially since this was more about Caylee missing to her at this point.

 

[Valhall]

Could some one please point me to the document that had the erroneous April date as the day Zenaida Gonzalez visited the Sawgrass apartments?

Please. I'd like to see what date that statement (saying it was April) was made.

 

[Duckley]

HOLY CRAP!!! I cannot believe it has taken me this long to catch this. IT COULDN'T BE PHOTOS OF THE ZENAIDA GONZALEZ THAT VISITED SAWGRASS APARTMENTS!

THIS WAS ON JULY 16TH! When they went to Sawgrass and spoke to the manager is when they first learned about the real ZG!

holy mother of pffffffft

I dont get it?
Help!

 

[cecybeans]

More important information comes from Amanda Macklin's statement:

"On July 16....[they tell her they are investigating a missing child case and that they have reason to believe she was left at apt 210]...I checked our database and informed the detective that Kayley [sic] nor her mother were listed as ever being a resident or applicant for residency of Sawgrass....I was questioned as to whether or not I recognized the name of Zenaida Gonzalez, which I did not. I checked for her information in our database and found she had inquired about an apartment at Sawgrass apartments in June 2008."

Okay, couple this with the statement made by Harry Garcia...

"I told him we fill out a guest card for every person who visits the property as a prospect."

If the photo is KC, and Harry Garcia really did remember her as being a prospect at Sawgrass, does this mean she didn't use her real name when she came to look at apartments???

Okay, now I'm having flashbacks of what I wanted to ask the last time you were here and this thread got fun. Has the real ZG actually admitted being there that specific day or is that just something we assumed because of KC's description of the car with NY plates etc and the other evidence that has emerged.

If she has admitted to being there that day, then I would think she was "invited" to look at an apt by "someone" and in that case the guest log would have been a description of the real ZG. I had also heard something about her maybe visiting in April and that the guest log card was lost.

If not, then perhaps KC could have come up with the car description and plates from one of her trips to the tattoo parlor and transposed it because she knew there had already been a ZG22 at Sawgrass and it would crosscheck. Didn't a close friend of the real ZG work there?

 

[Valhall]

If she has admitted to being there that day, then I would think she was "invited" to look at an apt by "someone" and in that case the guest log would have been a description of the real ZG. I had also heard something about her maybe visiting in April and that the guest log card was lost.

The real ZG was really there on June 17th (she says so).

Would you happen to have a link to documents about the April guest card? I'm starting to wonder about that particular issue at this point.

 

[Valhall]

I dont get it?
Help!

Yuri Melich went to the office of the Sawgrass apartments at 8:45 a.m. on the 16th (less than 12 hours into the investigation). He had no idea when he got there that a real "Zenaida Gonzalez" had visited the apartments on June 17th. He learned it after getting there. Yuri Melich came to that office with a page of about 12 photos of the same woman. It wasn't the real Zenaida, because he didn't even know about her yet.

In fact, I doubt seriously he could have gotten 12 photos of ANY Zenaida Gonzalez by that time. But he darned sure could have gotten 12 photos of KC....peeing, humping, barfing or showing her butt.

 

[cecybeans]

The real ZG was really there on June 17th (she says so).

Would you happen to have a link to documents about the April guest card? I'm starting to wonder about that particular issue at this point.

Yikes! I knew you would ask that. I have been looking through old interviews; honestly I can't remember where I first heard that. Perhaps a more organized WS'er can dig that up. I apologize for bringing that up without my source in hand.:doh:

 

[cecybeans]

Yuri Melich went to the office of the Sawgrass apartments at 8:45 a.m. on the 16th (less than 12 hours into the investigation). He had no idea when he got there that a real "Zenaida Gonzalez" had visited the apartments on June 17th. He learned it after getting there. Yuri Melich came to that office with a page of about 12 photos of the same woman. It wasn't the real Zenaida, because he didn't even know about her yet.

In fact, I doubt seriously he could have gotten 12 photos of ANY Zenaida Gonzalez by that time. But he darned sure could have gotten 12 photos of KC....peeing, humping, barfing or showing her butt.

I think we need a Thanks-LMAO button!

The fact that YM was over at Sawgrass with 12 photos of KC about six hours after she rode them around Orlando in the wee hours of the night "pointing out" places she had left Caylee means either she gave them that many pix of herself or they had already downloaded them from the laptop Lee returned despite the "blue screen of death" incident (or just got into her photobucket remotely). Because they didn't confiscate either the car or the family computer until later that day IIRC. This was right before her little wild goose chase to Universal.