Is George lying?

[Tuffy]

I can say without a doubt that I would act in no way like the Anthonys did. It's just not in my nature no matter how stressed I get.

 

[carole]

]Why did he testify that he didn't ID at first the smell was decomp? (If I member right)[/B] Then later did ID same. If you ever smell decomp you will not forget it. And why not call the police immediately? This is a man who was a cop for a number of years an that trainin doesn't just up and depart.

I find it hard to believe he molested anyone and would ask for prove he did.

Edit: Thank you Pip. I think I had just better read huh.

BBM

When did he testify that he didn't think the smell was decomp? As far as everything I had seen and heard, he was honest with police that he thought it was decomp.

 

[ButForFortune]

I'm sure we'll never know the truth...thought that then...think that now. IMHO he was/is not connected to the crime, but rather was trying to protect his daughter. Look where that got him. The family has to live with that...but it doesn't negate the fact that Casey...and only Casey...is responsible for Caylee's death.

I agree with you wholeheartedly. I don't believe for a minute that George was involved in Caylee's death or that he had ever molested KC. The evasiveness and deceit from the family throughout these past three years had everything to do with trying to save KC from a conviction. Now these past statements and actions are being twisted and perverted by the defense to save their client. And everyone, and I mean everyone, knows it. Including each and every member of the defense team. And that is the second tragedy affecting this family because of KC.

I have felt sick ever since hearing that opening statement by JB. What a life lesson was taught that day. How lying, even done with good intentions (if there is such a thing) can never be beneficial. I hope there are severe repercussions for JB. Please let it be so!

The above is just my opinion, for what it is worth.

 

[pip]

Stockholm Syndrome victim, courtesy of CA. The poor man doesn't own a though or opinion of his own. He is but a puppet with CA's hand controlling everything. She tried to make puppets of ICA and LA also and was successful to some degree, yet ICA broke loose in a fury. Not sure how much insight LA has. I am still nervous that GA will falsely admit to the defense's claims during the trial. Not sure.

 

[Dr.Fessel]

BBM

IMO -- George was thinking that JB was trying to get him to say the smell was greater in the trunk because that is where the bag of garbage was, and George knew the garbage had nothing to do with the smell.

I also think that was what JB was trying to insinuate.

I also think that George is much smarter than most people seem to give him credit for. Let's just see how any of us would have reacted knowing our tiny granddaughter had decomposed in her mother's (our daughter's) car.

JMHO.

After sitting in that car and rolling down a window and trying to start it I really doubt if George could tell the difference in the strength of smell in the car vs trunk. His nose was saturated with the smell.

 

[Justin Tyme]

They didn't have the nation of followers at the time that they took the car home from the tow yard. They "A"s said, "smell's like a dead body's been in the car", hey, they descibed it, washed stinky pants, removed items, wiped down items with clorox wipes, aired out the car, sprayed fabreeze, added scented dryer sheets, etc. all while ICA & Caylee were missing. All done before they called the law. They BROUGHT the attention to themselves. That's not normal behavior of someone whose trying to locate missing family members when the car was found abandoned and towed. He was and ex cop and she was a nurse. He above all would know if your family is missing and the car is found abandoned and it smells like a dead body was in the car, you first call the law, not go into house cleaning mode upon the car and items inside of the car.

 

[Tulessa]

Im a lurker mostly... I want to thank you all for your wonderful insight and just being here.

I cant hep but think George was "Hinky" at best on the stand. All of his answers (And I cant remember verbatim but...) Didnt he answer all of the questions concerning the morning of June 16. in "General" terms.... Like "I usually wake up right after Cindy "Would" leave"
"I usually give Caylee Breakfast" etc.
IMHO he never answered the question specifically about that day other that the way over the top description of what Caylee was wearing. I find it so oddd that he is so general with his answers about the happenings of the day and so specific about Caylees clothing. It doesnt fit.

I was looking @ the timeline over at A candy Rose and the general answers he gives in the first hearing ias the same and are just not sounding truthful.

From the beginning I have thought Casey killed her child, IDK if accidental drowning or something more sinister. But I do think George knows a LOT more OR he is scared that Casey knows something on him. He has always struck me as a weasel of a guy but now Im thinking why is he lying.
Your thoughts?

I totally disagree, but I will leave it at that, because I don't want to get a time out.

 

[pip]

BBM

IMO -- George was thinking that JB was trying to get him to say the smell was greater in the trunk because that is where the bag of garbage was, and George knew the garbage had nothing to do with the smell.

I also think that was what JB was trying to insinuate.

I also think that George is much smarter than most people seem to give him credit for. Let's just see how any of us would have reacted knowing our tiny granddaughter had decomposed in her mother's (our daughter's) car.

JMHO.

But he had already said it was the smell of human decomp, not garbage. By saying the smell was not stronger in the trunk, it also supports the notion that the body was never in the trunk. The truth of the matter was that, yes, it did smell stronger, as he had previously stated in his depo's. So, tell the truth. It seemed a no brainer, but of course, JMO.

 

[Tipstaff]

Anybody on the witness stand facing JB and the 'story' he told regarding ICA would have to be very concerned that JB is trying to pin anything he can on anybody but ICA.

Now imagine being George...don't know that I would be comfortable giving JB my full and correct name at this point.

After 2 1/2 years JB/ICA come up with this story and George is the accomplice....if I were in George's shoes I can't say how well I would fare on with stand looking at JB...Give him credit for even trying to answer JBs convoluted cross exam.

 

[Tig]

BBM

When did he testify that he didn't think the smell was decomp? As far as everything I had seen and heard, he was honest with police that he thought it was decomp.

Why when he recognized the smell didn't he immediately call the police (after driving the car home)?

(I would go see and check my if I member right statement, but don't know where to go to do so. You sleuthers are utterly amazing at knowing where to go, all the statements, testimony etc My compliments.)

 

[katydid23]

If I thought my daughter was INNOCENT, which I would at first for sure, then I would probably try and make the story be better for her if possible. I would not want to talk about a family fight that might make her look guilty if I was sure she was innocent.

Of course the big problem with that is I would be locked into that original version of events from then on. And IF I found out later the awful truth of who she was and what she did, I would be unable to change my original statements to fit the truth of the events. I think that is where George and Cindy are at right now.

I think they lied about the night of the 15th, so they cannot tell anyone about the fight that night. And I am not sure that anyone saw Caylee on the morning of the 16th either.

 

[Dr.Fessel]

George remembering what Caylee was wearing is just like a home decorator being able to remember the colors of your walls after being in your home a month before. George was a cop for 10 years and worked security for many years. He was trained to notice what people wear.

 

[txanmom]

Im a lurker mostly... I want to thank you all for your wonderful insight and just being here.

I cant hep but think George was "Hinky" at best on the stand. All of his answers (And I cant remember verbatim but...) Didnt he answer all of the questions concerning the morning of June 16. in "General" terms.... Like "I usually wake up right after Cindy "Would" leave"
"I usually give Caylee Breakfast" etc.
IMHO he never answered the question specifically about that day other that the way over the top description of what Caylee was wearing. I find it so oddd that he is so general with his answers about the happenings of the day and so specific about Caylees clothing. It doesnt fit.

I was looking @ the timeline over at A candy Rose and the general answers he gives in the first hearing ias the same and are just not sounding truthful.

From the beginning I have thought Casey killed her child, IDK if accidental drowning or something more sinister. But I do think George knows a LOT more OR he is scared that Casey knows something on him. He has always struck me as a weasel of a guy but now Im thinking why is he lying.
Your thoughts?

I can see where you are coming from. I do think in general he is not the most honest of people. Gambling (lieing to ca about it), not working (lieing to ca about it), alleged affairs, etc... on and on. He is a hard nut to crack. I think those comments I just made are what made him turn a blind eye to some of ICA shenanigans. JMOO
But, I do not think he sexually molested ICA. I think he might have been verbally inappropriate with her at times. My dad can be that way sometimes, over the top "guy talk" if you will. I do not think he covered up any accident either.
I do however think something went down on father's day and there was a motive in his mind for what ICA ultimately did with caylee. I think he and CA figured out much sooner than they have let on that they determined caylee was dead and ICA had something to do with it and I think they realized she could possibly go to prison for life or worse. At that point, I think they went into cover-up mode. Once they had sworn depositions on those matters they had to stick to those words whether or not they still feel that way. I can kind of understand that, I mean I cannot really say how I would act if my beloved children were ever accused of a crime. I would hope I would be honest, forthright and not cover for them, but I really don't know for sure.

So yes, I agree with you. He is hinky alright, so is Lee and CA. But, I think the reasons why are not because they had anything personally to do with it, but because their love for their daughter has distorted their thought processes and reactions.

 

[carole]

Anybody on the witness stand facing JB and the 'story' he told regarding ICA would have to be very concerned that JB is trying to pin anything he can on anybody but ICA.

Now imagine being George...don't know that I would be comfortable giving JB my full and correct name at this point.

After 2 1/2 years JB/ICA come up with this story and George is the accomplice....if I were in George's shoes I can't say how well I would fare on with stand looking at JB...Give him credit for even trying to answer JBs convoluted cross exam.

BBM

A B S O L U T E L Y ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !

JB has just said in opening statements that not only had George molested Casey since she was eight years old, he also said George was involved in the coverup of Caylee's death.

Why would George NOT be concerned about JBs questioning??

 

[Tuffy]

If I thought my daughter was INNOCENT, which I would at first for sure, then I would probably try and make the story be better for her if possible. I would not want to talk about a family fight that might make her look guilty if I was sure she was innocent.

Of course the big problem with that is I would be locked into that original version of events from then on. And IF I found out later the awful truth of who she was and what she did, I would be unable to change my original statements to fit the truth of the events. I think that is where George and Cindy are at right now.

I think they lied about the night of the 15th, so they cannot tell anyone about the fight that night. And I am not sure that anyone saw Caylee on the morning of the 16th either.

This is exactly what I think George did. I think he lied about Casey leaving to go to work to make it fit nicely with the "everything's normal" theory. I'm not saying he was involved at all, just that he (like Cindy) tried to cover for Casey. I think he knew Casey wasn't going to work for a looooong time before then. So there is no way this day happened as he says it did.

 

[Scamperoo]

IMO George is lying and I'm sure it is about seeing KC leave with Caylee, too much detail. George implied he gave Caylee breakfast etc. because it was of no importance and in no way memorable.

When George gets detailed it is because he is trying to save his daughters a**, but as we all know, no good deed goes unpunished and in this case it is deserved.

George continues to lie but he has no choice he is locked into his statements, his daughters DT know this and have chosen to take full advantage of George putting himself front and center on the 16th. Fortunately his daughters reputation as a prolific liar will get him a pass on this accusation. I don't believe George touched his daughter in any way either.

 

[pip]

Why when he recognized the smell didn't he immediately call the police (after driving the car home)?

(I would go see and check my if I member right statement, but don't know where to go to do so. You sleuthers are utterly amazing at knowing where to go, all the statements, testimony etc My compliments.)

Ask Cindy why. She runs the Anthony family show.

 

[Baznme]

Stockholm Syndrome victim, courtesy of CA. The poor man doesn't own a though or opinion of his own. He is but a puppet with CA's hand controlling everything. She tried to make puppets of ICA and LA also and was successful to some degree, yet ICA broke loose in a fury. Not sure how much insight LA has. I am still nervous that GA will falsely admit to the defense's claims during the trial. Not sure.

He certainly had an opinion when he was interviewed and told LE in his opinion that the odor in the car was the smell of decomp. I wouldn't go QUITE so far as to diagnose "Stockholm Syndrome" because he didn't call police on the 16th.

 

[LawRig]

I think George is only lying about certain details at this point , and in keeping with his GJ testimony because he knew the DT was gunning for him, looking for impeachment opportunities. Having already given statements, I think GA is doing the best he can with what he's already said, and not digging himself any deeper holes to have to climb out of.
As for what he saw and when, the entire family is having trouble remembering who what when and where.... even ICA didnt remember when exactly the Mt. Dora visit took place and they all predated the last time they saw Caylee prior to that. so I am not all that worried about what dates GA gives.

They've had 3 years to forget dates, misremember what was already said and try to keep the new claims from ICA from running them down.

George is remembering what he honestly remembers and is denying what he never did...

he still doesnt like JB and doesnt want to agree with him on anything and it comes across badly but I dont think he's deliberately lying... he's trying to avoid being blamed for something he'd never do.

 

[kathyn2]

I haven't read thru the other answers yet but I do not believe George is lying and neither do I believe he had anything to do with Caylee's death or hiding her body or molesting Casey.

He may not remember exactly what he did on that morning. Who of us remembers every detail of some morning 3 years ago or even a week ago if it seemed like a normal day to you. Get up, make coffee, talk to your grand child, make them some breakfast etc, watch tv and say goodbye to them as they leave. It was an ordinary day to George. He seemed to remember what Caylee was wearing and her backpack etc which is more that I would remember.

I think GA was a hapless, quiet man that was ruled by his wife and daughter. Those 2 stuck together and opposed him on things. I think George was suspicious of KC and her actions for years and would say things to Cindy and would get shot down. The 2 were always against him. In order to get along with Cindy he kept his mouth shut most of the time and did his own thing. Thats why he sounds a little strange here and there. Cindy and Casey ruled the roost there, not George. Casey actually ruled that house by her outbursts and everyone cowtowing to her all the time. I think it actually PO'd George off.