Is the criminal investigation of LA a red herring?

  • #21
I really don't expect Lee or the A's to be charged with anything. I think the attorney is reacting to all the media speculation and trying to keep Lee convinced that he needs an attorney. Attorney's don't keep the money coming in by telling their clients they don't need attorneys.


I so hope you're wrong, Chilly. I think they have obstructed justice so many times and really need to be charged. If LE doesn't charge them, they are sending a message to everyone out there that they can lie through their dentures and it means nuttin.
 
  • #22
If any of the A fam members are charged with anything, I don't anticipate it having anything to do with the actual crime, maybe lying to investigators or something of that nature. I still think that they are lying about where kc and Caylee were the night of the 15th. That being the starting point of their investigation, I think it is a pretty big deal if they all lied about the facts of that evening and next morning, and I don't see it being overlooked. JMO of course!

That's just fine with me SM!
 
  • #23
Considering the fact that Lee was privy to information from casey before LE arrived, the secrecy in what they said to each other on video, the subtle mumbo jumbo-it would make sense for Lee to be charged with accessory or obstruction in the future. If Caylee had been kidnapped and the truth had been told, there would have been no need for all this secrecy and bizarre behavior. His attorney making a public statement about impending charges is as whacked out as the case itself. This is being labeled a "forensic" case- when it should be called the mother of all "media" cases. Theres an undercurrent about this case that I cant quite name yet.. OJ was at least a celebrity, why has this particular case drawn such attention? Its an interesting thought.
 
  • #24
Has LE announced that they're considering charging Lee with something? I hadn't heard that. Of course, as you know, I don't see where Lee or the As have crossed the line. There's not even agreement here on what, if anything, Lee did wrong, yet everyone is eager to see him hang for it...whatever it is.

Truthfully, not everyone is out to hang Lee or anyone else. The Anthonys have brought suspicion on themselves by their odd behavior. Yes, cleaning a car that smells like a dead body is suspicious behavior, especially when your grandchild is missing. Lies breed mistrust.
 
  • #25
But, whatever happened to Lee staying under the radar? Even "we" didn't know where he was...why pop out this way? And let's not forget the second part of what the attorney initially said. Something must be up 'cause that hasn't been discussed in the press for a very long time.


Yes, LA did "hit the mattresses" as they say in the world of the Mafia. However, I wonder did he do so after perhaps "making the tail" LE had on him.

I think LE has had him in their sights from day one (yeah, I said it!). Him playing cowboy PoPo and all ...... kinda like a pyromaniac who inserts himself in an arson investigation or just gets off on standing in the crowd - watching.

LE even, imo, played him in that interview, wherein he so proudly acknowledged that, yes, he had questioned KC just as LE would do once they arrived @ the residence to "give her a reality check." Sharing information w/ LE he had garnered from his quasi investigation!!

I thought then, as I do now, that's one sick puppy.

I do believe it is highly likely LE was tailing LA & they have the goods on him relative to Tampering With Evidence & Obstruction of Justice. And, they've been letting him sweat. He's getting hot, hence his attorney, more or less, calling LE out.

Now, we'll see, since his attorney has let the cat out of the bag ..... possibly to get LE to "get on with it" ..... if LA cuts a deal and rolls over on dear Sis.

Oh, and the $$$ thingy ............ yep, that's a HUGE speed bump for the boy, also.

Hey, I know this may sound bizarre, but what about this case and these people isn't?
 
  • #26
Yes, LA did "hit the mattresses" as they say in the world of the Mafia. However, I wonder did he do so after perhaps "making the tail" LE had on him.

I think LE has had him in their sights from day one (yeah, I said it!). Him playing cowboy PoPo and all ...... kinda like a pyromaniac who inserts himself in an arson investigation or just gets off on standing in the crowd - watching.

LE even, imo, played him in that interview, wherein he so proudly acknowledged that, yes, he had questioned KC just as LE would do once they arrived @ the residence to "give her a reality check." Sharing information w/ LE he had garnered from his quasi investigation!!

I thought then, as I do now, that's one sick puppy.

I do believe it is highly likely LE was tailing LA & they have the goods on him relative to Tampering With Evidence & Obstruction of Justice. And, they've been letting him sweat. He's getting hot, hence his attorney, more or less, calling LE out.

Now, we'll see, since his attorney has let the cat out of the bag ..... possibly to get LE to "get on with it" ..... if LA cuts a deal and rolls over on dear Sis.

Oh, and the $$$ thingy ............ yep, that's a HUGE speed bump for the boy, also.

Hey, I know this may sound bizarre, but what about this case and these people isn't?


:clap: At the very beginning of this whole thing, I suspected Lee had more involvement than what he was letting on. He hid from the limelight for way too long to not arouse suspicion. And, the Anthony's in general have made complete spectacles of themselves. I mean, come on? Who lies to LE when their granddaughter is missing, for crying out loud?
 
  • #27
Well, LE is supposed to be investigating all of the A's for one thing or another. His lawyer suggests that Lee may be charged with obstruction of justice for things he did during his own investigation. As I stated on another thread, one pundit suggested that Lee may have attempted obstruction of justice when he advised his parents to not take a polygraph. It could be that his personal investigation interferred with LE's investigation by tipping off witnesses.

Although he gives me the creeps, I just do not see him jumping on the KC train to Nanny's when he has so much to lose; his job, his home, his pregnant girfriend and his future. He was able to make it out of the house and function on his own and quite successfully. He seems to have a brain located in his skull and as facts emerged and the Nanny story dissolved, he made himself scarce. Surely he knew that if he wasn't on KC's side, supporting her lies, he was out. Maybe he stayed away so as to not fight with his parents over their blind devotion to KC.

At this point all the A's are in jeopardy of being charged with interferring with the investigation or worse. We have heard from LE that others may be charged; I suppose LE meant the family. Although I have suspicions about CA and GA from their actions and inactions and lies upon lies, I think Lee stayed out of that loop.

I guess what I am saying is, I will wait for the charges before I jump on Lee as a bad guy.
 
  • #28
Do Cindy and George work anymore? If not, I guess they need attorneys to handle their money and future holdings. One questionable activity is the plea for donations for the past 5 months. Set up multiple accounts, pay pals and start a kc defense fund, penning a name, all under the guise of searching for a "live" Caylee. Lee has exhausted all of his donations with his investigation...hmmm. Are phone calls that expensive? Gasoline prices are down...don't know but he probably also has hired an accountant by now before the IRS hits him.

Well, in my world, I let the police do their work...investigate crimes, as I am not qualified. This family has a deep rooted hatred of police. They do not trust them. I could say why but I would be banned. It goes along with their outlook on the world and their persuasion. They would not hesitate to use LE for protection but nothing else.

We have a saying in my family....If anyone needs attorney's services more than twice in a lifetime, it is time to sit down a take a serious look at your life. I think the Anthonys have used up all their coupons.

They are in this for the long haul and I suggest they will not work again but will find a way to support themselves through this tragedy. Personally, I don't care to read anything they write, and I have no use for anything they say. Others can sustain them in their new life plan.

All the attorneys are there to protect their interest (money). Conway is there also to help them look like a kinder and gentler family.. a task no one wants to take on but he is running for political office so he knows what to say to the public and this is a cause that can help him.

I don't think this is a "red herring". I think the Anthonys like having them around for protection, in case, the government comes along and questions them about their charities and income. They like talking to them and bouncing ideas off of them....makes them feel important...till they get the bill. The purpose it serves is to make themselves look like "victims" because of the big bad detectives.

If the lawyers can keep all three corraled, they may pull it off...IMO, not likely...Cindy will get loose sooner or later. :behindbar
 
  • #29
Do Cindy and George work anymore? If not, I guess they need attorneys to handle their money and future holdings. One questionable activity is the plea for donations for the past 5 months. Set up multiple accounts, pay pals and start a kc defense fund, penning a name, all under the guise of searching for a "live" Caylee. Lee has exhausted all of his donations with his investigation...hmmm. Are phone calls that expensive? Gasoline prices are down...don't know but he probably also has hired an accountant by now before the IRS hits him.

Well, in my world, I let the police do their work...investigate crimes, as I am not qualified. This family has a deep rooted hatred of police. They do not trust them. I could say why but I would be banned. It goes along with their outlook on the world and their persuasion. They would not hesitate to use LE for protection but nothing else.

We have a saying in my family....If anyone needs attorney's services more than twice in a lifetime, it is time to sit down a take a serious look at your life. I think the Anthonys have used up all their coupons.

They are in this for the long haul and I suggest they will not work again but will find a way to support themselves through this tragedy. Personally, I don't care to read anything they write, and I have no use for anything they say. Others can sustain them in their new life plan.

All the attorneys are there to protect their interest (money). Conway is there also to help them look like a kinder and gentler family.. a task no one wants to take on but he is running for political office so he knows what to say to the public and this is a cause that can help him.

If the lawyers can keep all three corraled, they may pull it off...IMO not likely...Cindy will get loose sooner or later. :behindbar
Good post. :clap:
 
  • #30
Well, LE is supposed to be investigating all of the A's for one thing or another. His lawyer suggests that Lee may be charged with obstruction of justice for things he did during his own investigation. As I stated on another thread, one pundit suggested that Lee may have attempted obstruction of justice when he advised his parents to not take a polygraph. It could be that his personal investigation interferred with LE's investigation by tipping off witnesses.

Although he gives me the creeps, I just do not see him jumping on the KC train to Nanny's when he has so much to lose; his job, his home, his pregnant girfriend and his future. He was able to make it out of the house and function on his own and quite successfully. He seems to have a brain located in his skull and as facts emerged and the Nanny story dissolved, he made himself scarce. Surely he knew that if he wasn't on KC's side, supporting her lies, he was out. Maybe he stayed away so as to not fight with his parents over their blind devotion to KC.

At this point all the A's are in jeopardy of being charged with interferring with the investigation or worse. We have heard from LE that others may be charged; I suppose LE meant the family. Although I have suspicions about CA and GA from their actions and inactions and lies upon lies, I think Lee stayed out of that loop.

I guess what I am saying is, I will wait for the charges before I jump on Lee as a bad guy.
Wait a minute... did I miss something? His girlfriend Mallory is pregnant? Hmmm... I didn't know that.... not that it matters... I've just been wondering why he had to be supoenaed to give fingerprints and DNA.... I've been suspicious of him ever since I heard him laugh about the smell in the car during his police interview. "The smell in the car" wasn't funny... how can you laugh about that when your family member is missing? There's just something not right about him. I didn't know though that now the A's would be expecting another grandchild.
 
  • #31
I think this lawyer just wants to have his face on TV and try and make a name for himself.....if I was LA I would fire him for talking to the media at all.
 
  • #32
It wouldn't surprise me to hear that LA had been charged with obstruction or accessory after the fact. I didn't read what the attorney said, but it is possible that he may be trying to begin negotiations for a plea deal, and that could be his opening statement. Perhaps LA was lying to investigators but has now told the truth, and knows that he will be charged but is hoping for leniency because he is now being honest.

The parents have said they have made contradictory statements, I think, and they won't do that anymore. If that's all it is then I think they would have said so in the PC.

It does seem odd that he would say that publicly. What if LE changes their minds?

I've said it before and I'll say it again, LA makes my hinky meter go out the door! I can't imagine why his attorney would make these statements unless something is going to happen. I think he's going to look up Rob P's phone number soon for bail money.

:boohoo:

I agree my hinky meter is off the charts with this guy. He's managed to lay very low in this whole thing. It's odd especially when he was obviously talking in code to KC.

I was thinking about his lawyer announcing that charges could be filed against Lee and I thought how strange it is for a lawyer to tell the public.
Could it be possible that the atty's are in cahoots, to throw out there that the police are suspecting everyone, not just Casey? Is his not fully co-operating a well orchestrated attempt at placing doubt to a potential jury?
Not sure what to make of it. I haven't heard the police announce formally that they are anticipating charges filed against him.
Any thoughts? :confused:

I can't imagine them working together to muddy the waters. I can't see any attorney allowing his client to look like the possible murderer.

Well, LE is supposed to be investigating all of the A's for one thing or another. His lawyer suggests that Lee may be charged with obstruction of justice for things he did during his own investigation. As I stated on another thread, one pundit suggested that Lee may have attempted obstruction of justice when he advised his parents to not take a polygraph. It could be that his personal investigation interferred with LE's investigation by tipping off witnesses.

Although he gives me the creeps, I just do not see him jumping on the KC train to Nanny's when he has so much to lose; his job, his home, his pregnant girfriend and his future. He was able to make it out of the house and function on his own and quite successfully. He seems to have a brain located in his skull and as facts emerged and the Nanny story dissolved, he made himself scarce. Surely he knew that if he wasn't on KC's side, supporting her lies, he was out. Maybe he stayed away so as to not fight with his parents over their blind devotion to KC.

At this point all the A's are in jeopardy of being charged with interferring with the investigation or worse. We have heard from LE that others may be charged; I suppose LE meant the family. Although I have suspicions about CA and GA from their actions and inactions and lies upon lies, I think Lee stayed out of that loop.

I guess what I am saying is, I will wait for the charges before I jump on Lee as a bad guy.

I don't see how they could charge LA with obstruction of justice for advising his parents to not take a lie detector test. I think anyone can make suggestions to them.

Obstructing justice would be, IMO, hiding evidence or deliberately telling lies to LE.
 
  • #33
Wait a minute... did I miss something? His girlfriend Mallory is pregnant? Hmmm... I didn't know that.... not that it matters... I've just been wondering why he had to be supoenaed to give fingerprints and DNA.... I've been suspicious of him ever since I heard him laugh about the smell in the car during his police interview. "The smell in the car" wasn't funny... how can you laugh about that when your family member is missing? There's just something not right about him. I didn't know though that now the A's would be expecting another grandchild.
If they are, it might help explain why they seemed willing to toss Caylee overboard for KC. After all, they are getting a replacement. As sick as that is, nothing about this family surprises me.
 
  • #34
this is just a continutation of the pattern - they cant have any more Caylee sightings so they do this - a doc dump or something else is coming down the pike

Of course when you have tampered with evidence and obstructed justice you would
be worried about being charged - their guilty conscience is showing .

I believe LE is applying the pressure very effectively ............

It was only a matter of time before they turned on each other -

I agree this is primarily about protecting their future sources of income

if they are convicted of anything regarding this case there goes

the movie and book deals
 
  • #35
I've said it before and I'll say it again, LA makes my hinky meter go out the door! I can't imagine why his attorney would make these statements unless something is going to happen. I think he's going to look up Rob P's phone number soon for bail money.

:boohoo:

I think you're right too. No reason for his lawyer to up and offer that info to the public/media/LE via the media, otherwise. My only other thought was that he might have a very inexperienced lawyer, but after looking at his attorneys site, I don't think that's the reason. So, it's wait and see time now.
 
  • #36
I think this lawyer just wants to have his face on TV and try and make a name for himself.....if I was LA I would fire him for talking to the media at all.

Don't underestimate Lee's awareness of what his lawyer was going to say. He may have ad libbed a bit, but no doubt Lee was very aware that his attorney was going to be proactive and put this info out there.
 
  • #37
Has LE announced that they're considering charging Lee with something? I hadn't heard that. Of course, as you know, I don't see where Lee or the As have crossed the line. There's not even agreement here on what, if anything, Lee did wrong, yet everyone is eager to see him hang for it...whatever it is.

:clap::clap::clap:
 
  • #38
If they are, it might help explain why they seemed willing to toss Caylee overboard for KC. After all, they are getting a replacement. As sick as that is, nothing about this family surprises me.

So you're suggesting that this whole family, or at least LA and his girlfriend, figured that who cares about Caylee and if she's dead or alive or how she died since the gf is pregnant and they'd get a new baby?

Wow. I don't know what else to say to this except that I disagree profoundly. We have no evidence whatsoever to suggest that LA ever had a cavalier attitude about his niece's life.
 
  • #39
I first had bad vibes about LA during his interview with LE. Did anyone else notice how he recited his story about the conversation with KC in the bedroom, and what she related to him? He chanted that conversation just as though he had memorised it from a script. I don't think anyone uses inflections that way when they are telling something for the first time. Listen to the tape again and I'm sure you will catch what I mean.

I also find it strange that the uncle of a missing child would set forth on their own investigation. Offering to help LE in any way is normal, but actually investigating possible witnesses? Hinky.

Lots of things, including the infamous High Five, have compounded my suspicions. I don't think he was actively involved in any "body moving", but I do think he has deliberately covered up relevant information from the get-go.

There must be something to the lawyer coming out with the possible charges statement. We all know that even the hint of an accusation leaves a stain on a person's character that most can't get past, even when proven unfounded.
 
  • #40
Well, LE is supposed to be investigating all of the A's for one thing or another. His lawyer suggests that Lee may be charged with obstruction of justice for things he did during his own investigation. As I stated on another thread, one pundit suggested that Lee may have attempted obstruction of justice when he advised his parents to not take a polygraph. It could be that his personal investigation interferred with LE's investigation by tipping off witnesses.

Although he gives me the creeps, I just do not see him jumping on the KC train to Nanny's when he has so much to lose; his job, his home, his pregnant girfriend and his future. He was able to make it out of the house and function on his own and quite successfully. He seems to have a brain located in his skull and as facts emerged and the Nanny story dissolved, he made himself scarce. Surely he knew that if he wasn't on KC's side, supporting her lies, he was out. Maybe he stayed away so as to not fight with his parents over their blind devotion to KC.

Lee gives me the creeps as well.
 

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