Is There a new development regarding TES?

[mandif3]

I just read this article and now i THINK they may have found something ..

interviewer question: What steps
do you take with your search team at
that point? ( when you think you have found something)

Tim Miller Response;
During my initial briefing of
the search team, I let everyone know
the basics. I tell them that when you
find something, you stop. You don’t
get excited. You just step backward in
the same steps you went forward with
so you don’t take a chance that you
will be contaminating anything. The
team leader stays there, within visual
distance of the body. Everyone else
leaves. But the team leader stays until
law enforcement arrives. And we let
everyone on the team know that you
do not dial 911—because if you do, the
media will probably get to the scene
before the police get there.

Interviewer Question:

So you are
media conscious, right?


Tim Miller Response:

Right. Many times, after a
body has been found at one location,
we have continued our search in other
areas for as long as three hours as if
nothing had been found. That way, the
police can get there and secure the
scene and start their investigation.

The article is from Evidence technology. I will post the link (below) if anyone is interested in reading the complete article Interesting..
It is a pdf. file

http://www.texasequusearch.org/applications/ETM%20V5N4%20EquuSearch.pdf

Great find! Very telling. Even though we all wish Caylee would be found alive, at least she may rest in peace

 

[TxLady2]

but would we find this all that surprising? many WSers believe Caylee is deceased... I think, as PattyG pointed out, it's something other than Caylee

Believing it is one thing... having it confirmed by tests to establish ID is another. Those sometimes take a week or two. "Big developments" coming could mean anything. But my guess is, it is about Caylee.

I would think that if Caylee's remains were found and confirmed, then the SD will inform the Anthonys at the time of Casey's arrest. That's usually the standard procedure. She will not be formally charged until she goes before the judge. When they arrest her, they will do so on suspicion of homicide, and inform her then.

 

[Leila]

I remember thinking how odd it was to have 1,000 searchers on midday Sunday be told to go home instead of taking them to another area and calling off the searches even temporarily. There were plenty of other places to look.

I was thinking that too. There's a lot of areas that I would consider good possibilities in a search for Caylee. Not all areas were impacted by the flooding.

 

[Leila]

Wasn't KC about to go (or had been planning a trip) to CA to see MH just before the 15th of July and she got busted? Wonder how/if that might come into play here

Yes, she was planning a trip to CA. She spoke to MH a couple times on June 26th, the night before she abandoned the car at Amscot. It's been stated that those conversations were lengthy.

 

[HRCODEPINK]

I find the comments from the TES spokesperson a bit confusing. How big could the developments be if TES was "planning on coming back one way or the other"?

When I heard that, I immediately thought they found someone and will be back to search for Caylee if it is not her and will be back for court if it is.

 

[Leila]

Was this the incident with the JetSkis? Where they had the mobile crime lab out, supposedly because some stolen jetskis were found, but they left the jetskis there?

I think the incident with the jetskis took place about 4 or 5 days prior to the search being called off on Sunday, Sept. 7th.

 

[justbetweenus]

I wonder if this "surprise" could be related to the trust fund at all. I know it's said that TES is in no way involved, but they are in a round about way, if people were donating to the HelpFindCaylee fund intending for monies to be used by TES. I'm sure this spokesperson knows about it, and it was said to the reporter off record kinda way. Just thinking out loud. I really hope it's more to do with Caylee being found though.

 

[nursebeeme]

I remember thinking how odd it was to have 1,000 searchers on midday Sunday be told to go home instead of taking them to another area and calling off the searches even temporarily. There were plenty of other places to look.

http://www.texasequusearch.org/applications/ETM%20V5N4%20EquuSearch.pdfIn this article Tim Miller also says:
Here’s the
point: We don’t rely on just the dogs,
or just the horses, or just the ground
searchers. We use everything—and
we do things over and over again.​

In this same article Tim went on to say that in one case in the dark even after search dogs and others had been repeatedly thru an area a man was found by searchers to be hanging in a tree... again emphasizing that it takes all different types of searchers (dogs, horses, people, technology, etc) over and over and over again.... so yes, SS...I too found it odd that he did not use that same technique in this search with the 1200 people out there on that sunny and dry day when it was put on hold before normal close of business. ETA: It makes me think that they did find something of value in that search.​

I did find it interesting in this article also, that Tim is very unbiased (re, starts each search as a blank slate and does not consider even previous LE cleared searches as clear until he has searched them.) Tim is also very fastidious with his searchers about leaks to the media. From this same article as previously posted:​

Right. Many times, after a
body has been found at one location,
we have continued our search in other
areas for as long as three hours as if
nothing had been found. That way, the
police can get there and secure the
scene and start their investigation.​

Tim, again places high standards on his searchers and is an ethical and amazing person. He stated this:​

Texas EquuSearch,
for example, does a lot of mapping.
And we make sure everything is covered.
And we don’t leak information to
the media. And we let our volunteers
know right away that none of us are
detectives. We are searchers—and that
is the only role we will play. That is
the only reason we are here. If anyone
within our group dares to violate those
principles, we let them go. Period.​

 

[reefshadow]

I don't disagree with you - I've only been pointing out that LE does have a duty to notify Casey (unless she's been charged with Caylee's murder,w hich she has yet to be) if they find Caylee - which statement necessarily requires you assume they've identified the body as Caylee.

Yeah, I think they would have notified the family and I think the family has very compelling reasons not to make the info known.

That said, I think that if they had a positive ID on remains the media would have picked up on it somehow, either through LE or a leak at TES.

I think that if TES found any remains they haven't been positively ID'd yet.

 

[Terilee]

If LE has a good idea who the biological father is, they may want to confirm that through doing a DNA on the father. Caylee's DNA is going to be from both parents. Not having the father's DNA might be holding up a 100% identification of any remains found, if indeed there were remains found.

Right ON !!! They took plenty of statements over the phone already. They need to go to California to collect some sort of evidence or pick-up something. I also think they need some missing DNA to confirm 100% (This has had to be done before)

 

[Samijeansg]

Hope the say something more about TES on NG tonight, it's almost time and I hoping she rocks the house!

 

[NJ Lawyer]

On the video linked on this thread, in which Fox quotes a TES spokeswoman.....Padilla mentions the likelihood of Casey having help b/c the phone calls from her phone stopped on June 28? Does anyone have a log of who she called that day, especially the last call? I have only seen logs for June 17 and 18 (the "flurry of calls" day). Thanks.

 

[LetJusticePrevail]

Right ON !!! They took plenty of statements over the phone already. They need to go to California to collect some sort of evidence or pick-up something. I also think they need some missing DNA to confirm 100% (This has had to be done before)

I think sometimes when they don't know who the father is, they'll do a reverse paternity on the child to help lead them at least. I looked up Reverse Paternity and found this from a company site that does it.

LabCorp also analyzes forensic cases where evidentiary items need to be connected to an individual for whom no reference sample is available. These may be the result of homicide where no body has been recovered, but where blood stains have been located at the crime scene. In these cases, LabCorp uses a reference sample from at least one parent to perform a reverse paternity test for purposes of linking identity.

 

[EastSideOfSaddness]

Yes, she was planning a trip to CA. She spoke to MH a couple times on June 26th, the night before she abandoned the car at Amscot. It's been stated that those conversations were lengthy.

I know this question is far fetched however, can LE pull calls from cell phones? I know that sounds really dumb but I'm just curious.

 

[Suzie002]

Just a theory, but....maybe someone took Padilla up on his $50,000 reward for a lead on the location of Caylee body. I havent heard him mention it the last couple of nights and that would certainly be a good reason for them to want to speak with Padilla

Wow, you know you could be right, I haven't heard him mention the $50,000 and he mentioned the other reward all of the time. The other thing I was thinking is that the reason the FBI is going as well is to give them lie detector tests as well. Leonard has been mentioning them alot and they did give her friends a test too.

 

[Georgia PI]

Found this on http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2008/0...e-in-caylee-anthony-investigation/#more-16034 Maybe this was the big news



Caylee Look-Alike Leads Deputies To Swarm Volusia County Home

UPDATED: 6:01 pm EDT September 18, 2008

Caylee Anthony doesn’t have a twin, but a second little girl named Kaylee looks a lot like her and investigators thought so, too. They secretly swarmed a family home in Volusia County about an hour’s drive from where the Anthonys live.

Deputies said they were checking out an anonymous tip and they said the only way to get to the bottom of it was to go to the house in question. It turns out they found Kaylee, but not the one everyone is looking for.
It was the striking similarity between missing Caylee and this Kaylee that brought deputies to the home of Wayne and Kim Tupper in the middle of the night.

“They all filed in. There was about five deputies and then they asked if they could see my daughter,” Wayne Tupper told Eyewitness News.
That’s when they got the real surprise.

“So, I’m waking her up, ‘Kay-kay, wake up.’ And then the last thing I said was ‘Kaylee,’” Wayne said.

The Tuppers needed family photos and a birth certificate to prove she isn’t the little girl who’s been missing for so long.

“We don’t know if somebody saw us at a store, if they were driving by,” Kim said. “Could you imagine if I was at a store one day and somebody thought it was her and they didn’t let me leave?” But the Tuppers said they’re most frustrated by the Anthonys’ accusations that authorities aren’t looking for Caylee. She says their experience proves otherwise.

“If it was our daughter, I would expect them to do the same, but they are doing their jobs,” Kim said.

Even in his report, a deputy wrote that the girl looked a lot like the missing child. Of course, there are some differences. The Volusia County Kaylee is a little older and spells her name with a “K.”

 

[technicalconfusion]

maybe they need the DNA from the father first to make sure its a match before they release anything to public and media. I know if the body is badly decomosed it can be all kinds of problems -and they have to find alternative methods to properly id..

They would have to go there to gather DNA - is there any reason why determining paternity would help the case? Like would the father gain instant rights that would help them hold Casey if he wanted to press certain kinds of charges or something?

I may be wrong about this, but doesn't everyone who is enlisted in the service get a DNA test to have on record just in case?

 

[JayBee1940]

If LE has a good idea who the biological father is, they may want to confirm that through doing a DNA on the father. Caylee's DNA is going to be from both parents. Not having the father's DNA might be holding up a 100% identification of any remains found, if indeed there were remains found.

If LE suspects the marine is the father, his DNA may be already available to LE. The military has a DNA database on all military personnel. I wonder if they would need a subpoena to access this database. Here is a snippet of some of the information I found:

"The DOD claims this database, including records of all U.S. military personnel, is solely for the purpose of identifying the bits and pieces they find on the battlefield. But then again, they have also agreed to furnish material to criminal investigators...."

Everything I post is just my opinon.

 

[Maui4me]

You know I had been wondering why LP had not mentioned his reward, never thought about it might be because she is found....

 

[Jolynna]

Found this on http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2008/0...e-in-caylee-anthony-investigation/#more-16034 Maybe this was the big news



Caylee Look-Alike Leads Deputies To Swarm Volusia County Home

Respectfully snipped.

Georgia PI,

That Caylee was alive WOULD have been the ONLY thing to surprise people at this point.

I assume that LE had the home under surveillance for some days before swarming it. If from afar that Kaylee looked like "our" Caylee, I bet they expected to be heroes.

:blowkiss: Gotta love them for trying.

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