Is this case just an ugly domestic dispute between Terri and Kaine..??

  • #101
I feel as though I am thown between a domestic fight between Terri and Kaine..!! Terri's 16 yr old was placed into another home a couple months ago and now Kyron is missing, (hoping he is with a close friend or family).. and the acquesations (sp) goes on and on and on... This case is sickening anymore... If this a battle of the wits for who can get the better of who, I'm out..!! sorry to rant...but this is how I'm feeling??? I feel played into the middle of a domestic dispute that made national headlines... Maybe that is why the family stayed so quite for a week and a half or so... :furious: JMO and a very strong opinion at that...!!!

ETA:: I FEEL LIKE A SH*T FOR USING THE WORD "JUST" .. PLEASE DISREGARD THAT WORD FROM THE THREAD... I FEEL BAD ABOUT IT.. :( :(

Yeah, I feel its a domestic dispute between T & K, but I feel its a dispute kicked off by the disappearance of a child, a child that belonged to her husband who, at one point. she wanted killed, allegedly. I still wonder if TH didn';t want her older son sent away so she could move forward with her plan, a teenager @ home might pick up on her nefarious activities, also if she was successful in getting someone to agree to kill Kaine maybe she wanted her son far away so he would not be suspected in any way. (Reportedly he and Kaine "butted heads) Protecting her own child while plotting to kill her husband, or failing that, killing her husbands child. Its all very sick. She is dangerous IMO. The sooner they get her locked up, the better. Like Casey Anthony, her next move could be "anything". Shes not fessing up to anything. Am sure her high priced atty has advised her they got nuttin' on her at this point but a bunch of circumstantial evidence. She knows the turning point will be the discovery of Kyrons whereabouts.
IS ANYBODY STILL LOOKING FOR KYRON? Are SAR teams looking on and around Logie Road? I feel any tip has to be checked no matter how slim the chance. Kids have been found, bodies have been located, under more undesireable circumstances. I personally am not OK with just siting back and waiting for a hunter or someone collecting cans or someone out waking their dog running across Kyron's body. I want a full scale search of many locations. Right now, and until Kyron is found.

I am opposed to "big brother watching" per se, : and all that, but when cases like this come along, I secretly wish there was a way to turn back satellite imaging in time and see via satellite where someone was at a certain time, and Terri could be followed after the fact via the eye in the sky to see where she put Kyron. I know that opens a whole can of worms, but I still wish it. IMO people not doing anything wrong would have nothing to fear. You are on videocamera anywhere you go just about (except Skyline School and too many other schools) so the expectation of "privacy" anymore is disappearing. Some think its a bad thing, I think in this world of more and more evil behavior and people missing, folks like Terri Horman and Josh Powell and many others, Drew Peterson, might think twice if they knew their actions could be caught by satellite, honed in on later on (saved tape) and reviewed. Maybe the eye in the sky wouldn't be such a bad idea. It could implicate or show someone to be innocent. JMO. I know my idea is "out there".
 
  • #102
I just can't help but wonder.. if Terri lured Kaine away from DY using the same sexting MO. Maybe Kaine is now looking back and remembering how all those years ago, she 'sucked him in'...

I just want to say, it takes two to tango.... I'm not saying you said this. But people always blame one and not the other, which doesn't seem fair when an affair happens.
 
  • #103
sbbm

Similarities to Murder-for-Hire plot
Monday's court filing also stated that police had told Kaine that Terri's "sexual overtures to Mr. Cook resemble those made to the man Respondent (Terri Horman) attempted to hire to murder Petitioner (Kaine)."


http://www.kgw.com/news/local/Court...n-kyron-horman-contempt-sexting-98270654.html


I think it is relevant because the sexual overtures were similar to those in her dealings with the landscaper.

I am sorry RR, I just don't agree.

She never carried through with the alleged murder plot. Kaine is very much alive and that supposed hit was to have happened 7 months before Kyron went missing.

And this man entered the picture after Kyron went missing.

So this is doing nothing to help find Kyron.

Now it is nothing but salacious tidbits about Kaine and Terri's personal relationships imo and nothing about finding Kyron.

Kyron is getting lost in all of this personal infighting between Terri and Kaine imo.

IMO
 
  • #104
Better they should have just kept it like that.....hasn't helped Kyron, and the other children will live with this forever.

They didn't know it wasn't going to help Kyron, and if they still have hope that he is alive, they will do whatever they have to to keep his face out there.

Keeping his face on the screen is DY stated motive, consistently, for the purpose of bringing her son home.

So, whatever keeps the public's, and the media's attention, no matter how ugly it gets.

Pretty sick world, imo.
 
  • #105
I am sorry RR, I just don't agree.

She never carried through with the alleged murder plot. Kaine is very much alive and that supposed hit was to have happened 7 months before Kyron went missing.

And this man entered the picture after Kyron went missing.

So this is doing nothing to help find Kyron.

Now it is nothing but salacious tidbits about Kaine and Terri's personal relationships imo and nothing about finding Kyron.

Kyron is getting lost in all of this personal infighting between Terri and Kaine imo.

IMO

Kyron isn't getting lost because of personal infighting between Terri and Kaine.....he's been "lost" since June 4th.
 
  • #106
I really don't know what to think other than it feels like i'm watching a train wreck about to happen........and I can't stop watching.
 
  • #107
Someone seems intent on showing Terri in the worst possible light. I'd love to know their motive for such.
 
  • #108
I have not read this entire thread, however I have to say yes this is an ugly family dispute, BUT!!!!! at the center of all this is a missing 7 year old child. It is my opinion that Kaine did not realize there were all these things going on prior to Kyron missing. Ofcourse he did not know that his wife was sending texts to landscapers and other men, he didn't know that his wife tried to hire someone to kill him, all these things are new revelations to him that have been brought up since Kyron went missing. What is it he is suppose to do, stay with her? Of course not.
It is the media that has released theses things, Kaine and Desiree were staying out of the camera until all these things were brought out by the media. For instance Kaine had the restraining order sealed as not to let it be known about the murder for hire plot. It was the media that hounded the courts to unseal it, but before it was released we knew it was about the MFH plot, but not because of Kaine apparently Terri was the one who revealed what was in the restraining order about the MFH plot by showing her boyfriend who showed to other people, so it is TERRI that is continuing to take the focus off Kyron.

Good point.

I said this before and now I'm even more convinced of it, but I think TH likes all this drama, and is wallowing in the self made soap opera that SHE, and SHE alone created. TH doesn't seem to care that a little boy is missing, and her daughter's life and home has been ripped apart.
 
  • #109
Someone seems intent on showing Terri in the worst possible light. I'd love to know their motive for such.

Must be self hate because Terri keeps putting herself in the worst possible light.
 
  • #110
Does anyone remember KH saying that they were not going to talk about things not pertaining to Kyron because they didn't want the focus off of Kyron? Ever since that statement it has been domestic drama not pertaining to Kyron. All that is on the TV is about TMH, murder for hire and now the affair... Now some of the crap being released may lead to some "state of mind" evidence at a trial if they ever get to one but most of this has absolutely nothing to do with Kyron.

DY says that she had her suspicions about TMH early on but....

KH says she was treated for PPD but....

A lawncare person says TMH solicited him to kill KH but the LE sting fails and...

Now it comes out that a former best-friend or friend in highschool (whatever you want to call the man named in the affair) of KH's comes swooping in after Kyron goes missing and starts an affair with TMH...

The only thing I might can take from this last fiasco is that the explanations for the supposed "pings" on Sauvie Island is an affair. I somehow doubt the affair started after Kyron was missing...

This has become all about the domestic issues and not about Kyron...

I never said I was talking about KH but since you ask. The PPD interview and the "marriage souring" interview had nothing to do with Kyron. It just seems to me all these people were living in their own little world not paying attention to someone (TMH).

Most of us watched the first family interview and thought "hmmm", regarding TMH's behavior even though we weren't allowed to discuss it on here. They were in the picture on that stage for 5 minutes, maybe? Most of us here thought there was definitely something wrong with TMH and had a good idea about DY's feelings towards her. 5 minutes, just 5 minutes..


My parents always told me that the only people that know whats going on "behind closed doors" are the people who live behind them. My mom also told me that you don't know someone to you are living and sleeping with them. People can "not" want to see things (denial) or they can look over them (denial).

The sad thing is that this drama in overshadowing somebody, KYRON!

I am finding it hard to believe that the LE is running back and forth with domestic drama and telling KH titillating pieces of info just to... what??? (Before anyone says anything I am not talking about the blown murder-for-hire scheme.)

That is all I am saying on this subject before I get a time-out.

This is just frustrated venting and my own personal observations and opinions.

All the stuff mentioned in the presser about TH, IS about getting Kyron back because they think she knows where he is, so it's related.
Kaine said he didn't want to discuss the MFH plan, because he wanted to talk about finding Kyron and bringing him home. That's the context of the "keeping the focus" comment.
Terri, in THEIR opinion, is the key to solving this case, so mentioning her in a bad light during pressers might not be too pleasant to hear for the fence sitters, or for people who don't think she had anything to do with Kyron's disappearance, but it does pertain to getting Kyron back in the minds of DY, KH, and apparently LE.

And I have to be honest, really, this is about what side people come down on in this case. I think those a little sympathetic to TH or don't think she's involved are the ones upset this is coming out about her. I get it, but to try and dismiss all of it as a distraction is mind boggling to me.
You don't think the domestic stuff and this woman TH acting out is showing you anything about her judgement, honesty, character, lack of impulse control, and vindictiveness? I think it's very much related to Kyron's disappearance.
 
  • #111
Must be self hate because Terri keeps putting herself in the worst possible light.

What has she done Amster? There are no MFH charges, no 🤬🤬🤬🤬 charges, no child abduction charges, etc. She's no saint, but I've not seen her charged with a crime.


Not tying to be snarky at all, just trying to keep an open mind, free of personal judgment toward her.

:banghead:
 
  • #112
Someone seems intent on showing Terri in the worst possible light. I'd love to know their motive for such.

It's not so much showing Terri in the worst possible light, it's just that bringing Terri's activities into any light looks bad for her. I think a lot of people are intent on clearly seeing Terri's behavior both before and after Kyron went missing -- and her behavior is not so good.

I think she's used to keeping a lot of her activities in the dark and presenting a facade. Much of the information we knew about Terri at the beginning of this case came from her mother and best friend, and their portraits of her have turned out to be clouded by factual errors and much "spin." (Like the romantic fiction that she was DY's very good friend, who, out of selflessness and generosity, moved in with Kaine to take care of Kyron when DY was ill and then fell in love with him.)

The stark light of court documents, LE investigations, LDTs, etc., are revealing her true nature.
 
  • #113
The dirty laundry gets aired in all cases like this, especially when the dirty laaundry, may be what caused the event, or when the dirty laundry may show a pattern of behavior, or when the dirty laundry is being used to apply pressure.
I beleive all of this is for the ultimate goal of finding Kyron, especially if one of Terri's many affairs may be linked to Kyron not being here any more. I dont think this takes the focus off Kyron at all.
 
  • #114
What has she done Amster? There are no MFH charges, no 🤬🤬🤬🤬 charges, no child abduction charges, etc. She's no saint, but I've not seen her charged with a crime.


Not tying to be snarky at all, just trying to keep an open mind, free of personal judgment toward her.

:banghead:

True, she hasn't been charged...yet. If all of what has been reported in court docs and by Kaine and Desiree is discounted, then there is nothing on Terri except LE saying she was the last person to see Kyron that morning. We do have the admission from Mr. Cook that he was involved in sexting with Terri which, IMO, shows her lack of good judgment. In Kaines court filings, he does say his info comes from LE.....

I don't think you are being snarky. We just seem to look at things concerning Terri differently....no problem.
 
  • #115
Someone seems intent on showing Terri in the worst possible light. I'd love to know their motive for such.

That was my thought at first, but now I'm thinking it's showing her in her true light, and she just keeps digging herself further in.
 
  • #116
Someone seems intent on showing Terri in the worst possible light. I'd love to know their motive for such.

I have been very reticent to jump on the Terri done it side of the fence. From the get go I have staunchly refused to further the rumors, innuendos, etc. And while I agree that IMO MORE than one someone is indeed intent on showing Terri in the worst possible light, The woman refuses to help herself.

She seems determined to provide them with fodor to use in the vilification process. This gives me genuine pause. Terri continues to appear to show serious bad judgment.

Reminds me of someone I know IRL that cannot seem to live a day without some sort of drama or life crisis, most of which is self-created.

The above is not a comment on whether I feel she harmed Kyron in some way, simply my viewpoint on what is adding up to some really, really bad judgment by the last person to have seen little Kyron.
 
  • #117
I think that right now what we are seeing is mostly a PR war between KH and TH. It is worth noting that the allegations are all on KH's side at this time. Look for that to change. As Bette Midler says " Mud will be flung " Hate to say it,but there will no doubt be eye popping allegations from both sides ....

I would venture to speculate that none of what is being stated or implied has anything at all to do with Kyron's disappearance. Except that a pedophile who knew the family would have used this dysfunction to his advantage.....

All JMO
 
  • #118
I think that right now what we are seeing is mostly a PR war between KH and TH. It is worth noting that the allegations are all on KH's side at this time. Look for that to change. As Bette Midler says " Mud will be flung " Hate to say it,but there will no doubt be eye popping allegations from both sides ....

I would venture to speculate that none of what is being stated or implied has anything at all to do with Kyron's disappearance. Except that a pedophile who knew the family would have used this dysfunction to his advantage.....

All JMO

I have wondered about this, what if she volunteers at the school shares with someone at the school that things are a HOT MESS in their lives, maybe complains about bio parents not being involved enough and her raising Kyron, someone at the school shares this with someone just in chit chat, like this weekend at our pool party we talked about several families with "issues" going on...yes we were engaging in gossip...oops.....what if the "wrong" person knew about the dysfuction has used it to their advantage, and that is not saying TH has done some stupid things and some things that make you think she is looking guilty but with what we know now she could have been out having some afternoon delight and that's what she was trying to hide....I don't trust LDT because I failed one telling the truth so I can't hold those LDT against her or anyone else.....
 
  • #119
What has she done Amster? There are no MFH charges, no 🤬🤬🤬🤬 charges, no child abduction charges, etc. She's no saint, but I've not seen her charged with a crime.


Not tying to be snarky at all, just trying to keep an open mind, free of personal judgment toward her.

:banghead:

IMO, she will be charged. With all of the above and more. She'll be charged when LE is good & ready. They want more from their investigation before they charge her - and she's proving to be one tough cookie - so they are going to hold out for the physical evidence - but eventually ... they'll have to go with whatever they have. JMHO
 
  • #120
Someone seems intent on showing Terri in the worst possible light. I'd love to know their motive for such.

Yeah I guess that tends to happen when you don't cooperate in finding your missing step son, fail a few polys, hire someone to off your hubby, and violate a court order. It seems she doesn't need much help in shining in the worst of light. JMO.
 

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