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[TURBOTHINK]

Now also compare the composite sketch to these two pictures of Ricardo Morales (who also supposedly had the chloroform picture on facebook) Based on the docs, he says that the last time he saw Caylee was when he left for work on June 10 and when he left Casey and Caylee were on the couch. He says Casey texted him the next day June 11 that she couldn't go clubbing with him & Amy as she had to work. He says he leaves after work on the 12th and goes to Tampa and returns to Orlando on the 13th:

The problem with the hispanic angle is that was from a woman who got away and that one may not be related to Nicole G. Not to mention that woman was not hispanic.

I am not sure where you are going with RM - Caylee was alive on the 15th they know. I believe she was killed in the early morning hours after the 17th and 18th.

 

[Pink Panther]

Turbo - What is this composite sketch from? Who is it supposed to be? NG's assailant? If so, what about the other three sketches that were VERY different and that looked a bit like that Casanova guy?

 

[What'sThatClue]

Here's one sketch: http://www.wftv.com/news/17193081/detail.html

More: http://www.local6.com/slideshow/news/16635563/detail.html

And different ones: http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2008/06/investigators_in_orange_county.html

Edited to add link to local6 mugshot of a suspect: http://www.local6.com/slideshow/news/16595784/detail.html

 

[Seranade]

It sounds to me like NG could have been specifically targeted and the "East Side Rapist" used as a cover.

 

[TURBOTHINK]

Turbo - What is this composite sketch from? Who is it supposed to be? NG's assailant? If so, what about the other three sketches that were VERY different and that looked a bit like that Casanova guy?

The three others were dismissed. There were also three suspects they picked up who were cleared which matched the others evidently.

This was what they called the "final sketch". I would bet that one was made from the post office tapes because it is so detailed.

I don't have the media links to this, but they are all on the NG case.

 

[TURBOTHINK]

Here's one sketch: http://www.wftv.com/news/17193081/detail.html

More: http://www.local6.com/slideshow/news/16635563/detail.html

And different ones: http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2008/06/investigators_in_orange_county.html

Edited to add link to local6 mugshot of a suspect: http://www.local6.com/slideshow/news/16595784/detail.html

There is a media report where all of these were cleared from suspicion.

 

[What'sThatClue]

There is a media report where all of these were cleared from suspicion.

Thanks. I thought they were just all the sketches that were put out, not actual pics (except the last one). Sorry....

 

[Friptzap]

I really think you are stretching this too far. As humans we have limited features, there are a limited amount of noses, eyes, chins etc. Many people will share the same features. Following is a random sample of "People in Hoodies" That I googled and many of these looks similar also. Esspecially the female! The police have stated they feel certain this is a homeless person who wanders around. I have also been informed these two cases are completly independant. You are laying some heavy suspicions on people whom are most likely very innocent. A better effort would be to go to the area and photograph the homeless men traveling to and from the area. Plus if you are searching for possible suspects it should probably be taken to her dedicated thread as this thread is really in regards to Casey and her possible reasons for using Blanchard Park in her story.

Remember I said similar not identical. And the quaker is for balance to show what the hoodie guy certainly dose not look like!

 

[TURBOTHINK]

I really think you are stretching this too far. As humans we have limited features, there are a limited amount of noses, eyes, chins etc. Many people will share the same features. Following is a random sample of "People in Hoodies" That I googled and many of these looks similar also. Esspecially the female! The police have stated they feel certain this is a homeless person who wanders around. I have also been informed these two cases are completly independant. You are laying some heavy suspicions on people whom are most likely very innocent. A better effort would be to go to the area and photograph the homeless men traveling to and from the area. Plus if you are searching for possible suspects it should probably be taken to her dedicated thread as this thread is really in regards to Casey and her possible reasons for using Blanchard Park in her story.

Remember I said similar not identical. And the quaker is for balance to show what the hoodie guy certainly dose not look like!

LOL - It most likely is a stretch, but there is "something" about LA which is not quite right. His employment has one of the same phone numbers as a callgirlring had posted on a web site before they pulled the site down, and the street address is the same complex as where CA works. If you go to the pings thread, it is all there.

I am looking at him to see what his connections are in the Orlando areas. That I believe is important because him and KC are tied together obviously against their parents in many of the things they have done. (at least with GA)

 

[Unsolved]

I am not sure where you are going with RM

I know, I'm not going anywhere with RM but I just thought out of all the players around Casey maybe his picture looked more like the sketch than LA.

I can believe Casey used or was planning on using bits and pieces of the NG story in her own plans (i.e. purse and keys left in NG's car, purse and keys left in Casey's car) but I guess I also I would like everyone in Casey's circle looked at by LE in the NG case too, just to ensure there wasn't some kind of master plan "run through" happening there.

I also realize that LE is sure that these are two independent cases, but then I think, what if?

I so wish there was some way of finding out what counselor was helping George & Cindy and who suggested that they get custody of Caylee. What if it was NG? Casey would have a grudge if so. NG worked at the UCF Marriage and Family Research Institute - and Zenaida Gonzalez Kotala (there she is again!) wrote an article back in December 2007 about an open house there that included this partial info:

UCF's Marriage and Family Research Institute Holds Open House Dec. 12
By Zenaida Gonzalez Kotala
Dec. 11, 2007

The Florida Marriage and Family Research Institute has completed renovations to its new home on campus, and the staff invites the community to check it out from 3 to 5 p.m. on Wednesday, Dec. 12. The institute is housed in the Early Childhood Center, located between the Recreation and Wellness Center and Creative School for Children on UCF’s main campus.

The institute conducts a variety of research on marriage and provides free couples education, enrichment and counseling.

I don't think George & Cindy had a lot of money to put toward expensive counselling, so if they were going I could picture them using a free service such as this one.

Maybe Casey (and an accomplice) did have something to do with the NG murder and carefully staged it to look like the work of the rapist? I would much rather have LE really investigate that and say "absolutely not" than not look at the possibility at all.

 

[TURBOTHINK]

I know, I'm not going anywhere with RM but I just thought out of all the players around Casey maybe his picture looked more like the sketch than LA.

I can believe Casey used or was planning on using bits and pieces of the NG story in her own plans (i.e. purse and keys left in NG's car, purse and keys left in Casey's car) but I guess I also I would like everyone in Casey's circle looked at by LE in the NG case too, just to ensure there wasn't some kind of master plan "run through" happening there.

I also realize that LE is sure that these are two independent cases, but then I think, what if?

I so wish there was some way of finding out what counselor was helping George & Cindy and who suggested that they get custody of Caylee. What if it was NG? Casey would have a grudge if so. NG worked at the UCF Marriage and Family Research Institute - and Zenaida Gonzalez Kotala (there she is again!) wrote an article back in December 2007 about an open house there that included this partial info:

UCF's Marriage and Family Research Institute Holds Open House Dec. 12
By Zenaida Gonzalez Kotala
Dec. 11, 2007

The Florida Marriage and Family Research Institute has completed renovations to its new home on campus, and the staff invites the community to check it out from 3 to 5 p.m. on Wednesday, Dec. 12. The institute is housed in the Early Childhood Center, located between the Recreation and Wellness Center and Creative School for Children on UCF’s main campus.

The institute conducts a variety of research on marriage and provides free couples education, enrichment and counseling.

I don't think George & Cindy had a lot of money to put toward expensive counselling, so if they were going I could picture them using a free service such as this one.

Maybe Casey (and an accomplice) did have something to do with the NG murder and carefully staged it to look like the work of the rapist? I would much rather have LE really investigate that and say "absolutely not" than not look at the possibility at all.

That is some good research there, unsolved. I immediately had the question if NG was CA's counselor when I read where the counselor had suggested she confront KC and get custody of Caylee.

It was funny it jumped out at me because I had read the story about NG and wondered about her counseling at UCF and how that connected to this case.
Then I saw the ping at the back parking lot at UCF and the more I started thinking about this. There are thick woods next to that parking lot.

I am with you on this, it may need another look.

 

[Theonly1]

Hey Turbothink,

I just don't think they look similar at all. Lee's eyebrows are majorly bushy. He doesn't usually seem this clean shaven. The nose is wrong. Lee's face is more square-shaped.

T

 

[Theonly1]

I know, I'm not going anywhere with RM but I just thought out of all the players around Casey maybe his picture looked more like the sketch than LA.

That's funny. If I had to choose someone from all these players who looked like that sketch I would choose AL! [Not that I think AL had anything to do with NG I just don't think Lee or Ricardo look anything like this sketch!]

 

[reefshadow]

Maybe Casey (and an accomplice) did have something to do with the NG murder and carefully staged it to look like the work of the rapist? I would much rather have LE really investigate that and say "absolutely not" than not look at the possibility at all.

I really don't think this is possible. For one, it is almost certain that they have a DNA profile on the killer, my guess is from semen. Kind of hard to fake a rape and leave semen behind. Next, if you read my last post, I detail reasons based on what LE has said and done in the NG case that make me think that some extreme form of sadism and/or mutilation was involved, almost certainly the latter. IMO only a person motivated by a love of the act itself could do that.

Whoever did it, this was a sexual crime and very extreme. LE is looking into hundreds of area offenders (literally hundreds). They wouldn't do this if the crime wasn't overtly sexual in nature.

 

[reefshadow]

This was what they called the "final sketch". I would bet that one was made from the post office tapes because it is so detailed.

There has been no confirmation that tapes even exist or that there is CCTV, that's just my theory based on federal buildings usually having them.

 

[reefshadow]

The problem with the hispanic angle is that was from a woman who got away and that one may not be related to Nicole G. Not to mention that woman was not hispanic.

Yes, he has most likely been ruled out, as I believe they have a DNA profile of her killer and we know that's how they caught him for the other rape. It's weird how he has a face full of bruises though.

It is true that predators tend to hunt within their own ethnicity, but this is not a hard and fast rule. The perp could very well be white. The composite looks Asian to me :crazy:

I don't think they are going to catch this unless he gets collared for another crime and his DNA matches. Hopefully that will occur before he kills again.

 

[karen7868]

I know, I'm not going anywhere with RM but I just thought out of all the players around Casey maybe his picture looked more like the sketch than LA.

I can believe Casey used or was planning on using bits and pieces of the NG story in her own plans (i.e. purse and keys left in NG's car, purse and keys left in Casey's car) but I guess I also I would like everyone in Casey's circle looked at by LE in the NG case too, just to ensure there wasn't some kind of master plan "run through" happening there.

I also realize that LE is sure that these are two independent cases, but then I think, what if?

I so wish there was some way of finding out what counselor was helping George & Cindy and who suggested that they get custody of Caylee. What if it was NG? Casey would have a grudge if so. NG worked at the UCF Marriage and Family Research Institute - and Zenaida Gonzalez Kotala (there she is again!) wrote an article back in December 2007 about an open house there that included this partial info:

UCF's Marriage and Family Research Institute Holds Open House Dec. 12
By Zenaida Gonzalez Kotala
Dec. 11, 2007

The Florida Marriage and Family Research Institute has completed renovations to its new home on campus, and the staff invites the community to check it out from 3 to 5 p.m. on Wednesday, Dec. 12. The institute is housed in the Early Childhood Center, located between the Recreation and Wellness Center and Creative School for Children on UCF’s main campus.

The institute conducts a variety of research on marriage and provides free couples education, enrichment and counseling.

I don't think George & Cindy had a lot of money to put toward expensive counselling, so if they were going I could picture them using a free service such as this one.

Maybe Casey (and an accomplice) did have something to do with the NG murder and carefully staged it to look like the work of the rapist? I would much rather have LE really investigate that and say "absolutely not" than not look at the possibility at all.

Wow, that is great investigative work Unsolved. Makes sense to me. I'm going to have to look at the ping thread again. Also, where did you get the info. about the phone # and address assoc. with the callgirl ring?

I have often thought KC was into this kind of stuff and she was working for LA. The name of his busniness "Universal Ventures" and KC's shred of truth that she worked for "Universal."

 

[twomanywords]

Bump- they have new suspect...

 

[twomanywords]

 

[twomanywords]

http://www.wesh.com/news/18188421/detail.html