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  • #101
My best guess is that Casey is somehow trying to connect Caylee's disapearence with Nicole's murder - or she may have planned on doing that in the begining

She may have even told her parents that "The Body" that was in her trunk was Nicole
 
  • #102
~BUMP~

I find it strange that kc keeps referring to this park. Didnt she say her mom warned her not to go there because it was so dangerous? Im not sure if it was a rumor, but I heard kc changed her story and said she met z and zs sister at that park and Caylee jumped into the car with 2 other kids.

She seems to be setting the story up for a tragedy that could happen there with "someone she no longer trusted"

The jogger was killed on june 9-10? Hmmm that is the date that Caylee ORIGINALLY was last seen according to several statements made to LE. Only after the pic and video of Caylee were discovered on the A's computer (or laptop Im not sure). They determined the pic was taken on Father's day. THEN the A's remembered it was the following week that they had last seen Caylee.

ARGH!

BRING CAYLEE HOME!


So , why not say she dropped her off at the prak from the start?
 
  • #103
My best guess is that Casey is somehow trying to connect Caylee's disapearence with Nicole's murder - or she may have planned on doing that in the begining

She may have even told her parents that "The Body" that was in her trunk was Nicole

Immpossible, her car was abbandoned weeks after NG's body was found by police.

And NG was pulled of the trail, the police described the scene as grusome, which means the location was the murder scene :( so the body was not moved afterwards.

I think unless she is lnked to the Anthony family via counseling that the ONLY real link here is the use by Casey to use this park as a location/cover up for her daughters dissapearance/murder osomthne...
 
  • #104
:coffeecup::coffeecup: dude! This case confuses me all the time lol....even coffee doesn't help my mental processing of it!

I know....Have you ever seen like this?

If you blink you're a week behind
 
  • #105
If you check out pix of Nicole G, you also can see she does look of "mixed" races.

And a little like Casey? Could it have been mistaken identity? Someone looking for Casey? She knew this girl jogged at this park, she could have set her up? She could have owed drug money? Makes me ponder..
 
  • #106
My best guess is that Casey is somehow trying to connect Caylee's disapearence with Nicole's murder - or she may have planned on doing that in the begining

She may have even told her parents that "The Body" that was in her trunk was Nicole

I agree. George thinks that was some other body in the trunk - and there aren't that many dead bodies to go around.

Except she can't even make up a decent story. Why not go with - Zanaida (or someone close to her) killed Nicole. She could say ZG asked to borrow her car and she let her. ZG used Casey's car to get rid of Nicole's body. Casey found out about it somehow and was threatened by ZG - and she took Caylee to make sure Casey would not talk. Casey knew that if enough time (31 days or whatever)passed she would gain the trust of ZG enough for ZG to know that Casey would not talk - then she would get Caylee back.


See my made up story is better than Casey's made up story - Ha.


Seriously - I'm beginning to wonder if Casey had ever even been to J. Blanchard Park. She's the only one to say she was ever there and that Caylee loved it there.

Though - Lee did not flinch when she mentioned it in the phone call - and Casey did say that Caylee had been to that park with someone other than herself most recently (in the docs).

I'm so confused. Will it ever end?
 
  • #107
Immpossible, her car was abbandoned weeks after NG's body was found by police.

I know it's impossible but I'm just thinking of the statement George made to the media when he said that ...

"The Body that was in the trunk was not my Grand daughter"

It sounds to me like Casey told him somebody else was in the trunk besides Caylee

I don't believe any of it but Casey has to explain the decomp odor somehow

If not Caylee then lets say it was the dead jogger

Also,
I don't believe that GA was ever in the trunk on the 24th so he wouldn't know how long the decomp smell was in the car anyway
 
  • #108
Yesterday on several different sites I read or saw something about Casey changing her story to dropping Caylee of at Blanchard park to ZG & her cousin Sam. I've so overwhelmed with info and mind is so full I can't remember where/who I heard this from. Was it Leonard last night on NG or somewhere else. Anyone hear about this?

Yeah, she did say that, and it was on NG. She said NG and Sam jumped her and stole Caylee, and gave her a 30-day scrip of lies to tell LE.
 
  • #109
Damn, they may have to hire this girl to get into the minds of sociopaths while she's in prison for the rest of her life. I really like the "purse left in the car" ploy. Yes, it is surprising the dates had not been connected until now.
The dates had been connected awhile back.
 
  • #110
hi I would like you to pm me the report if you will thanks a bunch also a newbie

HI- I would love to see this report also. Thanks for sharing!
 
  • #111
my brain is so tired- just trying to figure out how that statement (from Cindy, CA, whoever it came from) would make any difference. Why would she (CA) add that on now? Esp. after the BodyFarm info.

confused

Because LE did not buy the Sawgrass story.
 
  • #112
OK, Im a little suspicious after looking into this case.

Let's use this thread to set some facts straight about that case and how it could pertain to this case. I know quite a few people have thought that Caylee's disappearance could have started with the murder of the jogger, Nicole G, in Blanchard Park.

here's what i found that makes me real suspicious:

-Nicole G went missing June 10th, body found June 11th. Casey's date for dropping off caylee was June 9th.
-Nicole G was jogging in blanchard park
-but her body was found in Econlockhatchee Trail
-if IRC, casey says her mom didn't want her jogging in B park, not even along "Econlockhatchee Trail"
-Nicole G was a marriage counselor, could this be what ties the anthony family and Nicole G together!? Could this be who cindy talked to about casey and caylee? and back in 2005 cindy and george had a seperation filed. Could this be a counselor they were told to go see?
snipped from http://www.theledger.com/article/20.../1410&title=Missing_Fla__Jogger_Is_Found_Dead

-Nicole G was 26, which would make it unlikely that casey and her went to the same school, but it's possible they partied around each other. Nicole G did seem to have her head on better than casey and Nicole G was married, so i can't say for sure if Nicole G partied at all.

Could this all just be coincidence???

I haven't found any recent reports that say they know who killed the jogger or how she died. Please add info if you find it.

I don't think there was any tie, at all to the As. I think KC just thought it might be a useful reference to use, to explain Caylee's disappearance.
 
  • #113
Because LE did not buy the Sawgrass story.

Right. He told kc they had video tapes and she was NEVER at Sawgrass.
 
  • #114
So, when did kc change her story to the "drop off/jumped by Z" story?
 
  • #115
I don't think there was any tie, at all to the As. I think KC just thought it might be a useful reference to use, to explain Caylee's disappearance.

Right. Since there had been a recent murder at the park, she decided to change the story to make it look like that was where Caylee was kidnapped.
 
  • #116
Im starting to wonder if everything casey has been saying are clues. I know, i am finding it hard to "defend" her. Let's say these "boys" used her car and went to Bpark, Nicole's Body was dumped over on that E-trail, when they got back, casey flips out like why did you use my car to do this!? Im going to police, they take caylee, she shuts her mouth, tried to clean her car out so that if she gets stopped or someone goes in her trunk for whatever reason, when the car's smell still kept geting stronger she ditches it. This would explain george's statement of "the body in my daughter's car was NOT my granddaughter" Maybe casey confided in G and CA about this, and that would explain CA's shock during the 911 calls, still freaking out about the safety of caylee.

HER "CLUE" SPEAK:
~taking them to sawgrass, the guy in the sketch lived there
~now spinning it to blanchard park, where the guy was last seen and the jog murder was
~mentioning BOTH places the jogger was last seen - clueing to placements and ties to that case
~the date - focusing on the week before, yes caylee may have gone missing the week of the 15th, but she wants LE to focus onthe week before, of the 9th, when everything with the jogger happened.
 
  • #117
I'm just thinking aloud here too- trying desperately to find/believe a scenario in which Caylee is alive. Maybe NicG's killer was found out by Casey- either used her car or planted some part of NicG's body in there and at her home (gruesome scene might mean dismemberment). He took Caylee to keep her quiet. He used chloroform soaked rag to get NicG off the trail- left it in Casey's car? You have to really stretch.

But I actually think this makes more sense as a story in Casey's mind bc IF it were true- that would explain (in Casey's mind) not going to LE...but once LE is involved- you better come clean as quickly as possible - THAT would be the best thing for finding your daughter. Strange case! I fear the simplest solution is the most plausible. I think Caylee was "lost" in the "care" of her mother. :(
 
  • #118
Lot's of info about Nicole's situation here - http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2008/06/slain_exclifton_woman_found_in.html


snip Ganguzza did not run regularly at Blanchard Park and might have chosen it Tuesday as a break from her routine, Orange County Sheriff's Sgt. Allen Lee said. snip


snip Her body was found at 5:15 p.m. Wednesday, not far off the trail. It was badly scratched from the briars and other prickly brush in the thicket where she was found, Lee said. The officers who found her were also badly scratched, he said, and investigators believe the person who killed her probably is, too. snip


snip Brendan Ganguzza, who used to live in Wayne, owns a window-tinting business called SunKing Tinting. The company's website lists Nicole Alexander as his "friendly assistant." snip

The last bit about she and her new husband owning the window tinting place struck me a bit - just because we've been talking about guys associated with this case who are into their cars and probably have tinted windows. The address for their business is 6923 Narcoossee Road #623 - less than 1 mile from the towyard where Casey's car ended up.
 
  • #119
Im starting to wonder if everything casey has been saying are clues. I know, i am finding it hard to "defend" her. Let's say these "boys" used her car and went to Bpark, Nicole's Body was dumped over on that E-trail, when they got back, casey flips out like why did you use my car to do this!? Im going to police, they take caylee, she shuts her mouth, tried to clean her car out so that if she gets stopped or someone goes in her trunk for whatever reason, when the car's smell still kept geting stronger she ditches it. This would explain george's statement of "the body in my daughter's car was NOT my granddaughter" Maybe casey confided in G and CA about this, and that would explain CA's shock during the 911 calls, still freaking out about the safety of caylee.

HER "CLUE" SPEAK:
~taking them to sawgrass, the guy in the sketch lived there
~now spinning it to blanchard park, where the guy was last seen and the jog murder was
~mentioning BOTH places the jogger was last seen - clueing to placements and ties to that case
~the date - focusing on the week before, yes caylee may have gone missing the week of the 15th, but she wants LE to focus onthe week before, of the 9th, when everything with the jogger happened.

That still doesn't explain why she wouldn't tell police everything. I think she is trying to link Caylee's disappearance to Blanchard Park. I don't think her disappearance has anything to do with the park, but Casey wants there to be a connection. JMO
 
  • #120
SNIPPED
I have always, always, always wondered in the back of my mind why the entire family forgot when Father's Day was. I chalked it up to stress and shock.

On the other hand, I'm pretty sure Cindy always said "30 days"! And Casey said "31 days" at the same time they were saying June 9th.

Exactly. Casey said, "31 days."

After listening to the interview recordings, it seems to me Casey grasps onto and internalizes things other people say. The interrogator said, "Zanny," and after that, Casey said, "Zanny."

She also seems to have taken parts of her story from friends' lives.

I think this may pertain to the mix-up in dates.

Cindy said "June 9." If she was in a highly emotional state, frightened and shocked that her granddaughter was missing, getting a date wrong is understandable. She corrected it later.

I think Casey may have internalized "June 9," even though she was saying 31 days.

The more I read, the more I think Casey lives in a fantasy world. I don't think she's just a liar. I think she lives in an altered state of reality.

The alleged death of her daughter could have pushed her further into her own world.
 
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