J Blanchard Park #1

[Friptzap]

Any resemblance? NO

And if his ex is who I think it is you should probably delete your post..just saying..

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Thank you. I was just about to waste time to prove that these cases are unrelated. It is a distraction to the case and I felt it was unrelated also. In the very least, I feel it's unfairly giving false hope.

NP. I really had strong feelings about the possibility in the begining but since Casey seems to steal information from everywhere and anywhere in her stories I can see why anyone would come up with this same theory but knowing what information I was given I can now sigh with relief that there is no real involvment and the cases have no link between them.

So hopefully Tricia will contact me and maybe this thread can get locked and a new one based soley on the concept of Casey "using" what she may have heard in th news about Nicole's case for use in her story. And perhaps we can get it restricted to that line of investigation until further notice from the "officials" here.

 

[TURBOTHINK]

I have been told by a very reliable source that these are indeed two seperate crimes and not linked. I cannot say who or why I was told, but I feel no need to go down that path anymore based on this information, I was very concerned at first but no longer.

I am not convinced they are not related yet. I am sure your source believes them not related, but there were some other things which align with the two cases which I am checking on now.

 

[TURBOTHINK]

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NP. I really had strong feelings about the possibility in the begining but since Casey seems to steal information from everywhere and anywhere in her stories I can see why anyone would come up with this same theory but knowing what information I was given I can now sigh with relief that there is no real involvment and the cases have no link between them.

So hopefully Tricia will contact me and maybe this thread can get locked and a new one based soley on the concept of Casey "using" what she may have heard in th news about Nicole's case for use in her story. And perhaps we can get it restricted to that line of investigation until further notice from the "officials" here.

Why would Trish lock it? It is about Blanchard Park and NG.

 

[Friptzap]

I am not convinced they are not related yet. I am sure your source believes them not related, but there were some other things which align with the two cases which I am checking on now.

Well once Tricia or a mod PM me perhaps we can resolve your concerns before any real damage is done.

Respectfully my source is not just "any" source and that is all I can say. Once Tricia contacts me I am sure we can lock this thread and proceed on a different path. Perhaps you could table your opinions in the mean time if you choose not to believe me or my source and wait for her to sort this out. Thank you.

 

[Darshana]

Detectives even released a composite sketch hoping to find clues. They got a DNA sample, but they weren't able to name a suspect because there were no matches in the DNA database.

Nichole G was a family/marriage counselor and was murdered the 10th of June. Was KC using this murder for cover for Caylee? Or did she know something about this murder?

Very strange!

 

[LCoastMom]

I thought LE said weeks ago there is no connection?

 

[chicoliving]

Here's the link to our thread about Nicole for discussion.
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=65962&highlight=Ganguzza

 

[LCoastMom]

Sorry, I know this is bizarre speculation....but if Blanchard Park played such a huge part in the discussion between Lee A and KC during the jailhouse call, and Lee has been refusing to give his DNA for the police, maybe there is some connection. If Nicole was the counselor who told Cindy to kick KC out, and we all know what a spiteful B**tch she claims to be, she could have enticed Lee to help her. Then the Chloroform connections would make sense. We don't know that Lee didn't have bad scratches on his body.... He seemed awfully insistent in his conversation with KC regarding the BlackJack phone.

I really thought LA was reading questions to KC from LE in his phone calls...

 

[TURBOTHINK]

Ganguzza, Nicole - murdered at J Blanchard Park June 10. Casey’s date for dropping off Caylee was June 9th at ZG apt 210. Casey Anthony claims she went to June 9-to look for her missing daughter and nanny-ZG.

2ND LIE Casey states later that Caylee was abducted from J Blanchard Park by ZG and her sister Samantha. -June 9th-had a horrible rain storm that afternoon/early evening. Casey said Zany was 26 years old 5′6 - 5′7 Brown Hair, Brown Eyes 140 pounds; Nicole was 26 years old 5′4 Brown Hair, Brown Eyes 130 pounds…

Nicole went missing June 10th, body found June 11th with her purse in front seat of her car. Nicole was finishing her master degree at UCF and was a family/marital counselor there.. Casey claims to friends she had applied to enter fall semester at UCF. Nicole G was jogging in J Blanchard Park -but her body was found in Econlockhatchee Trail; Casey says her mom didn’t want her jogging in JB Park, not even along “Econlockhatchee Trail”….Casey left her purse in the front seat of her car abandoned it on June 26. Chloroform may have been used in both cases as surmised by the news media and le. Casey states Caylee loved it at JB Park. And the reason she changed her story was because she remembered LE saying that they had Sawgrass on video cam…and she was ‘not there’. She knew the jig was up.

She chose Blanchard out of random information. So… if Caylee’s body is found, she can accuse the murderer. KC just took the fear that everyone was feeling and tried to weave the BP rapist story into her own timeline. Casey and Nicole both have the same shamrock tattoo. Casey weaved this ladies reality into Casey/Caylee life. Pathological liars assimilate other people life into their own reality.

 

[TURBOTHINK]

I thought LE said weeks ago there is no connection?

I looked for that and can not find it, but they may have. That doesn't mean it is true. Many times they will say cases are not connected when they know they are to get the suspects to feel safe.

 

[reefshadow]

Ganguzza, Nicole - murdered at J Blanchard Park June 10. Casey’s date for dropping off Caylee was June 9th at ZG apt 210. Casey Anthony claims she went to June 9-to look for her missing daughter and nanny-ZG.

2ND LIE Casey states later that Caylee was abducted from J Blanchard Park by ZG and her sister Samantha. -June 9th-had a horrible rain storm that afternoon/early evening. Casey said Zany was 26 years old 5′6 - 5′7 Brown Hair, Brown Eyes 140 pounds; Nicole was 26 years old 5′4 Brown Hair, Brown Eyes 130 pounds…

Nicole went missing June 10th, body found June 11th with her purse in front seat of her car. Nicole was finishing her master degree at UCF and was a family/marital counselor there.. Casey claims to friends she had applied to enter fall semester at UCF. Nicole G was jogging in J Blanchard Park -but her body was found in Econlockhatchee Trail; Casey says her mom didn’t want her jogging in JB Park, not even along “Econlockhatchee Trail”….Casey left her purse in the front seat of her car abandoned it on June 26. Chloroform may have been used in both cases as surmised by the news media and le. Casey states Caylee loved it at JB Park. And the reason she changed her story was because she remembered LE saying that they had Sawgrass on video cam…and she was ‘not there’. She knew the jig was up.

She chose Blanchard out of random information. So… if Caylee’s body is found, she can accuse the murderer. KC just took the fear that everyone was feeling and tried to weave the BP rapist story into her own timeline. Casey and Nicole both have the same shamrock tattoo. Casey weaved this ladies reality into Casey/Caylee life. Pathological liars assimilate other people life into their own reality.

"Chloroform may have been used in both cases as surmised by the news media and le."

Where? Please provide a link. This misinformation keeps getting brought up and I have been able to find NO mention of it in the NG case. The only "information" I can find on this is a rumor from another board.

"Casey and Nicole both have the same shamrock tattoo"

No they don't. You're thinking about J. Kesse, a different missing person case from the area.

"She chose Blanchard out of random information. So… if Caylee’s body is found, she can accuse the murderer."

Totally agree with this. Or so she can accuse the nonexistent ZFG that she placed at Blanchard for the hand-off of Caylee.

I think the only connection to the NG case is in the mind of KC.

 

[reefshadow]

Nicole G was jogging in J Blanchard Park -but her body was found in Econlockhatchee Trail

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This is something else that keeps being brought up, and IMO it's not at all significant. There is a large string of parks in the area that are all connected by biking and running trails. The Econ trail is directly connected to JB park, and her car was a couple of miles from where she was killed and found. So the probable scenario is that she jogged along the linked trails for a couple of miles and unfortunately was nabbed just as she neared the end of her run- I believe she would have turned around shortly and started back to her car. Here is a map I made of the site of her murder to illustrate the probable nab point and how the trails connect.

 

[Friptzap]

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This is something else that keeps being brought up, and IMO it's not at all significant. There is a large string of parks in the area that are all connected by biking and running trails. The Econ trail is directly connected to JB park, and her car was a couple of miles from where she was killed and found. So the probable scenario is that she jogged along the linked trails for a couple of miles and unfortunately was nabbed just as she neared the end of her run- I believe she would have turned around shortly and started back to her car. Here is a map I made of the site of her murder to illustrate the probable nab point and how the trails connect.

I can agree with that for sure. Allthough that arial view is not exactly how the woods next to the post office look today, there is much more of a clearing there now, the parking lot of the post office next to econ looks out over somewhat of a clearing and the roadway along Econ right there is a bit different. I will try and swing by this weekend and take some pictures.

Also, I walk this area off and on and I have noticed many of the joggers/walkers have different turnaround points. This entire trail is probably 10+ miles end to end and it all connects accross/under the roadways that intercect it. Many people will travel from the Lee road parking lot to econ and back some will travel farther some park here at the post office end and travel the opposite direction and some travel from lee road the opposite way to Rouse and some may go past Rouse to the opposite end still.

But considering her timing upon arrival she probably had just enough time to reach Econ and return before the Lee road exit closed, or an additional half hour before the Rouse road exit closed. Blanchard park itself has Two entrances, Lee Road and Rouse Road. The rest of the "trail" has some parking areas that are open 24/7 as those areas are only on the "trail" portion and not at the park itself. Park closes 7:30 Lee Road 8:00 Rouse road. There are neumerous homes and apartments along much of the trail as well, this is not strictly an isolated wooded park many homes and apartments have gates in the back yard leading directly to the park.

 

[Pink Panther]

I can agree with that for sure. Allthough that arial view is not exactly how the woods next to the post office look today, there is much more of a clearing there now, the parking lot of the post office next to econ looks out over somewhat of a clearing and the roadway along Econ right there is a bit different. I will try and swing by this weekend and take some pictures.

Also, I walk this area off and on and I have noticed many of the joggers/walkers have different turnaround points. This entire trail is probably 10+ miles end to end and it all connects accross/under the roadways that intercect it. Many people will travel from the Lee road parking lot to econ and back some will travel farther some park here at the post office end and travel the opposite direction and some travel from lee road the opposite way to Rouse and some may go past Rouse to the opposite end still.

But considering her timing upon arrival she probably had just enough time to reach Econ and return before the Lee road exit closed, or an additional half hour before the Rouse road exit closed. Blanchard park itself has Two entrances, Lee Road and Rouse Road. The rest of the "trail" has some parking areas that are open 24/7 as those areas are only on the "trail" portion and not at the park itself. Park closes 7:30 Lee Road 8:00 Rouse road. There are neumerous homes and apartments along much of the trail as well, this is not strictly an isolated wooded park many homes and apartments have gates in the back yard leading directly to the park.

friptzap - The road on the left hand side that runs from the top to the bottom of the map...It crosses over a river/water. Have you ever crossed this? Is this somewhere that one could dump a body over into the water???

 

[Friptzap]

friptzap - The road on the left hand side that runs from the top to the bottom of the map...It crosses over a river/water. Have you ever crossed this? Is this somewhere that one could dump a body over into the water???

Sure - easily really and I have crossed it many times, but Orlando is known as the City of Lakes. there are hundreds of lakes and dozens of similar bridges this could be done at. And wooded areas around each. You could easily park in the dirt parking lot next to the post office and probably not be spotted if you were trying to dump something in the lake as well, or the woods for that matter, it's rather dark back there at night.

Oh and that road is Enconolatchee it parralells the river from this point south, well somewhat anyway.

 

[Unsolved]

Nicole went missing June 10th, body found June 11th with her purse in front seat of her car. Nicole was finishing her master degree at UCF and was a family/marital counselor there.. Casey claims to friends she had applied to enter fall semester at UCF.

I am a new poster, so please be kind

With all these UCF references, I can't put out of my mind that a News & Information spokeswoman for UCF is Zenaida Gonzalez Kotala (this is not the same ZG who lives in Kissimmee and is suing CA), and so is another UCF mention.

And I also can't forget that the UCF ZG's office in Melbourne was robbed and computer stolen around June 9.

 

[waltzingmatilda]

Realist, Sorry and embarrassed that I offended you and deleted the post. With that said....OUCH! Did you have to be so brutal in your verbage. I understand this is an emotional case for everyone but we shouldn't resort to name calling and turning against one another. Also, that is not my site, I don't know the difference in a pay site and any other site. How does one know? I don't receive $$$. I am disabled and do not work. Thanks for your honesty and peace be with you. Respectfully, Matilda

 

[shannon718]

Hi everyone! I'm new to posting, but I've been lurking for awhile and after reading all the reports last night, something has been eating at me all day, and I was wondering what you all thought.

In Casey's interview at Universal, she said that she went to Blanchard Park to look for ZG and Caylee after she wasn't at Sawgrass. This was on June 9th, the day she claims she last saw Caylee. Now, first of all, I live in Orlando, and on June 9th, we had a horrible rain storm that afternoon/early evening. I remember that because it was also the day that the jogger, Nicole Ganguzza, was murdered at Blanchard park. They said on the news that the trail was much less busy that day because of the bad storm and that had it not stormed so badly, the trail probably would've been more crowded.

What struck me is that it would've been pouring at the time she says she went there to look for her, and a very high publicized murder took place at that park on the day and close to the time period that she says she was there looking for ZG. Now, I seriously don't think she had anything to do with the murder of the jogger and I really don't think she had even gone there, but I do think she may have made a mental note to somehow latch on to it, so maybe she could blame Caylee's death on the jogger's murderer, or something like that. Like the murderer killed the jogger, and then got ahold of ZG and Caylee, too, or something like that. For a few weeks after that murder, it was top news here in Orlando, and there is no way she wouldn't have heard about it. The fact that she picked June 9th as her last day seeing Caylee, when later it was determined to be a lie, and the fact that she said she went to Blanchard Park, which isn't even really that close to Conway, it just makes me think that it was part of her master plan of trying to prove she didn't do it. And, had it not been proven that Caylee didn't disappear on June 9th, I really think that we would've been hearing this connection sooner.

Casey also left her purse in the front seat of her pontiac (no keys in purse) This always perplexed me but then someone made the comparison that The Joggers purse was found in her car after she was murdered also.

I think you are right...she was latching onto it somehow. Maybe it was a lame attempt at staging some major detail in the joggers murder.

 

[amethyst]

Casey also left her purse in the front seat of her pontiac (no keys in purse) This always perplexed me but then someone made the comparison that The Joggers purse was found in her car after she was murdered also.

I think you are right...she was latching onto it somehow. Maybe it was a lame attempt at staging some major detail in the joggers murder.

I had thought that maybe she was staging her dissappearance to seem like it was connected to NG's murder and then she was going to flee to California and meet up with that marine and try to continue on with her pathetic little life.

 

[CrimeBella]

I think Casey took specific "clues" from Nicoles murder, and incorporated them into her own story about Caylee. I'm sure Nicoles dissapearance and subsequent demise was all over the local news, so casey's brain just started ticking... This was FIVE days prior to Caylee going missing - that speaks volumes of premeditation IMO.