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I'm really bad this- how old do you think JH is? Because there is a SR and a JR, and I don't want to post things about the wrong one

He is 66! Which I find amazing. Mamabear guessed late 40s, I would have put him early 50s at the oldest.
 
My only thought on all these people attracted to this case is "money is the magnet"
Wish I could believe that people involved really cared about little Caylee. There are so many children who disappear every year. Why this facination by the press, the money flowing in and out? Who is backing all this activity..paying all the lawyers.. the hanger ons are looking for money or getting their faces on TV.
I feel as if I am watching some reality show.. and it will all turn out to be a fraud on the public. O.K, I know it is real but the characters in this "mystery" are just to strange.
 
He is 66! Which I find amazing. Mamabear guessed late 40s, I would have put him early 50s at the oldest.

Thanks! I was shocked at his age. Am afraid his looks will catch up with his age before all this is over. I bet he wishes he had stayed out of this. Sure hope he learned a lesson about when and where one puts their nose.

He really seems like a likable guy. He doesn't come across (to me anyway) as a sneaky fellow like Casey PI. Now that man gives me the creeps.
 
Thanks! I was shocked at his age. Am afraid his looks will catch up with his age before all this is over. I bet he wishes he had stayed out of this. Sure hope he learned a lesson about when and where one puts their nose.

He really seems like a likable guy. He doesn't come across (to me anyway) as a sneaky fellow like Casey PI. Now that man gives me the creeps.

I couldn't agree more about JH being an ok guy, and DC being rather snakelike. :snake: I am so anxious for Morgan to get DC on that depo hot seat, too bad his own attorney will have to be there tho.
 
I couldn't agree more about JH being an ok guy, and DC being rather snakelike. :snake: I am so anxious for Morgan to get DC on that depo hot seat, too bad his own attorney will have to be there tho.

Yes, that will be a very interesting depo, but the ultimate depo will be CA. When Hoover left the depo and was questioned by the press, he looked ok. I doubt if JB got anythang of use from him.
 
I couldn't agree more about JH being an ok guy, and DC being rather snakelike. :snake: I am so anxious for Morgan to get DC on that depo hot seat, too bad his own attorney will have to be there tho.

I totally agree.
 
The other psychic G St. J was there on Aug. 11 - same day as Kronk's first phone call - she has a video of the drive by. She mentions that Tim had closed the area and LE did not want people in there, if I remember correctly.

Kronk called LE on 8-11, 12 and 13. I recall LP saying that about the body earlier than that - say about the time that DC and JH were out filming. Funny also is that they were out there on their little search the day after Henry Lee took a look at the car, and three days before MN quit as the Anthony attorney. Sounds like some people may have been tipped off about something big. Mamabear, are you saying you think JH might have bugged the Ant house and then removed them when the family returned after the search? It sure would have been a good window of opportunity for Kronk to have revisited the area the day the Ants were out of town on their LK junket.
As i stated back in Jan I feel Hoover and DC had a listening device in the house. Then when the A's started hearing things leaked they had HOOver sweep the house ! (talk about fox in hen house) I think the A's were at their wits end trying to figure out how info was getting out and they even thought their puter was hacked into.
my post from Jan:
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My personal opinion is that Hoover and DC hid alistening bug in Casa DiAnthony and overheard something to drive them to this spot. Might be from JB ,Lee who knows?
 
As i stated back in Jan I feel Hoover and DC had a listening device in the house. Then when the A's started hearing things leaked they had HOOver sweep the house ! (talk about fox in hen house) I think the A's were at their wits end trying to figure out how info was getting out and they even thought their puter was hacked into.
my post from Jan:
01-10-2009, 10:59 AM Replies: 269


My personal opinion is that Hoover and DC hid alistening bug in Casa DiAnthony and overheard something to drive them to this spot. Might be from JB ,Lee who knows?

OMG------I member, me and my BFF's were talkin about this very thang at the end of Dec. only we just figured it was Hoover who did the bugging because Casey PI looks to much of a :snake: and not on LE team.

Casey PI was mixed up to much with JB and CA like to much in the middle of it all. Hoover on the other hand just showed up. We thought he may have been sent to the A's camp by LE to do some PI work and maybe planted a bug.

Then that went out the window when LP said on the NG show about Hoover showing him a part the video on the 11th of Dec. So we figured if Hoover was in with LE/FBI he would have turned the video over.

Now, we figured they took the "BUG" out with that search they did after the baby was found. That night Hoover did go back to lock up the house when LE finished the search and the thought of the BUG came back to our minds for a moment. Then it came out about the video so we scraped Hoover off the BUG plate. But we did think the house was bugged.
 
That's correct. LP had been saying that all along. I love LP... It was interesting about what NG had to say last night about CA and GA going to dinner the night they found Caylee's remains. They had to know the sweet angel was gone. This puts a whole new light on it for me because even if they did know already, how the heck could they go to dinner? I wouldn't be able to eat if I had heard my pet passed, let alone a Grandchild... :waitasec: Unbelievable..

I think Cindy and George could go out and enjoy a meal because they knew Caylee was gone from the moment they picked up the car at the lot back in July. Let's never forget Cindy's initial 911 calls - "it smells like a dead body has been in the dam car."
I don't care how much they changed their tune, blaming the smell on old pizza and maggets, they knew what Casey was capable of. They watched her grow up and everday saw how Casey would lie, cheat, steal without blinking an eye.
I don't think they were surprised Casey could harm or give away her child. I believe the moment Casey left the home in mid-June, they suspected she could be selfish or foolish enough to let Caylee be in harms way. But they enabled her by turning a blind eye to whatever Casey did. Cindy and George were and are a couple of numb people.
So, yes, they could eat and enjoy a night out cause they were aware all along something had happened to their granddaughter even though they were claiming Caylee sighting and what a wonderful mother Casey was.
JMO
 
I find Dominic Casey a very odd duck; I don't trust him at all after reading the interview with LE. His story just was not believable as to why he was at the remains site the month before they were discovered. James Hoover I found more credible in his recall of the events of November 15th, right down to what everyone had for dinner at the Ritz!
LOL.
There are a few things, however, that bothered me when I saw JH depo with JM. He was pretty evasive, IMO, on just how he became involved with the Anthonys, and how he made his living. If you live as far away as he supposedly does, how do you afford the gas, motels, etc. to just go running down to Orlando to help folks out for free? My greed meter goes off when I hear this. I'm sure he shot plenty of video while he was down there, and I believe he was trying to shop the videos/pics that he had. LP had said that JH repeatedly asked him who he could sell the 11/15-16 footage to before he notified LE that it existed. That bothers me a lot, and causes me to question his integrity as well as DC's. The poking and prodding and digging and slashing bags open in that video disturbed me very much...I felt sick when I saw it. If DC really believed Caylee's remains were there, it showed a tremendous lack of compassion and respect, as well as an unclean motive as to why he was there. He was at the very least, contaminating evidence, at the most, completely trying to destroy it, IMO. It begs the question of what they would have done had they found her remains?

Another thing that bothers me, perhaps because I'm not lawyer savvy, is this: Why did JM go into such detail with JH about that video, and those 2 days it was taped? There were very few questions pertaining to his knowledge, or lack thereof, of ZFG. He sounded more like he was working the murder case rather than his client's civil suit. Very strange to me. Does anyone else have similar feelings about him?

When I first saw the video I knew something was wrong. Those PIs were there for a reason and they knew Caylee was there somewhere. Who told them? I don't know BUT in IMO it was someone who was very close to KC.

And it does seem like JM is trying the murder case. IMO, JM is just being nosey. JH deposition seemed to have nothing to do with ZFG. Why???? What is he looking for? Does anyone think that the prosecution put JM up to this whole thing?
 
When I first saw the video I knew something was wrong. Those PIs were there for a reason and they knew Caylee was there somewhere. Who told them? I don't know BUT in IMO it was someone who was very close to KC.

And it does seem like JM is trying the murder case. IMO, JM is just being nosey. JH deposition seemed to have nothing to do with ZFG. Why???? What is he looking for? Does anyone think that the prosecution put JM up to this whole thing?

The one thing I absolutely do not believe for a second is that the prosecution has put JM up to anything in regard to the defamation suit. They are capable lawyers, they are working incredibly hard on this case, and they don't want anyone else mucking around in it, whoever they might be. It could be detrimental to their case if unrepresented witnesses make a mistake, get bullied into something, etc. and it comes back to haunt them later. There are lots of pitfalls, so I'm convinced they'd rather do their own work.

There is nothing magical about the civil suit for getting information, though it gets headlines. People who have been concealing and lying when talking to LE, for example, will continue to do so. Anyone who is determined to help Casey A in her defense will continue to do so and will probably refuse to answer questions they find troublesome. Anyone who has any concern that they might even possibly face criminal charges of their own someday will plead the 5th amendment at any opportunity to avoid giving answers. The judge in this case needs to get hold of it. We have a repeat motion to postpone it, pending motions to compel, a refusal of Casey A to comply with the procedure he set up even though her counterclaim invoking the court's power remains pending. As far as JM, there is no denying he seems to have mixed motives, but so long as he stays within the allowed broad scope of discovery, he can proceed.
 
Watching and listening to Hoover and DC closely, I have come to the conclusion that DC was embarrassed to say he was following the lead of a psychic and Hoover is trying to make money and a name for himself. He planted himself in the middle of this, wasn't invited. He never told LE about this visit and film until after Caylee was found. Most of what LP says simple isn't true, but if he is telling the truth about this one, Hoover's motives are clear. DC seemed more straight forward in his interview with LE than Hoover has appeared, IMO, other than the obvious embarassement over the psychic bit. I know the phone records from the psychic haven't been shared yet but that doesn't mean they don't exist. (BTW, the blackjack does exist, according to a May comment in Myspace with her former boss but LE hasn't done anything I can see to get a hold of those records.) As for Cindy giving her a toy of Caylee's but not Tim Miller, he would only look for a dead Caylee, which she wasn't yet prepared to accept and Miller was brought in by LE who already had many items of Caylee's. Why would they have to give out more items?
 
Watching and listening to Hoover and DC closely, I have come to the conclusion that DC was embarrassed to say he was following the lead of a psychic and Hoover is trying to make money and a name for himself. He planted himself in the middle of this, wasn't invited. He never told LE about this visit and film until after Caylee was found. Most of what LP says simple isn't true, but if he is telling the truth about this one, Hoover's motives are clear. DC seemed more straight forward in his interview with LE than Hoover has appeared, IMO, other than the obvious embarassement over the psychic bit. I know the phone records from the psychic haven't been shared yet but that doesn't mean they don't exist. (BTW, the blackjack does exist, according to a May comment in Myspace with her former boss but LE hasn't done anything I can see to get a hold of those records.) As for Cindy giving her a toy of Caylee's but not Tim Miller, he would only look for a dead Caylee, which she wasn't yet prepared to accept and Miller was brought in by LE who already had many items of Caylee's. Why would they have to give out more items?

I too have watched all the videos with JH. I read the transcript with Mr. Casey. I think he was embarrassed about the psychic. But what I believe is more important is that the As and defense thought they could use this as proof that Caylee was not in the woods in November. I think it blew up in their faces. They did not know that they would have to answer as to why they were there to begin with.

I would like to know where you got your information about the missing blackjack? Please provide a link. How do you know that LE hasn't done anything. I am just curious.

As far as CA not giving TM/TES any of Caylee toys. I believe what LE has is evidence and couldn't be released.

IMO
 
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Watching and listening to Hoover and DC closely, I have come to the conclusion that DC was embarrassed to say he was following the lead of a psychic and Hoover is trying to make money and a name for himself. He planted himself in the middle of this, wasn't invited. He never told LE about this visit and film until after Caylee was found. Most of what LP says simple isn't true, but if he is telling the truth about this one, Hoover's motives are clear. DC seemed more straight forward in his interview with LE than Hoover has appeared, IMO, other than the obvious embarassement over the psychic bit. I know the phone records from the psychic haven't been shared yet but that doesn't mean they don't exist. (BTW, the blackjack does exist, according to a May comment in Myspace with her former boss but LE hasn't done anything I can see to get a hold of those records.) As for Cindy giving her a toy of Caylee's but not Tim Miller, he would only look for a dead Caylee, which she wasn't yet prepared to accept and Miller was brought in by LE who already had many items of Caylee's. Why would they have to give out more items?

Who is her former boss?
 
Watching and listening to Hoover and DC closely, I have come to the conclusion that DC was embarrassed to say he was following the lead of a psychic and Hoover is trying to make money and a name for himself. He planted himself in the middle of this, wasn't invited. He never told LE about this visit and film until after Caylee was found. Most of what LP says simple isn't true, but if he is telling the truth about this one, Hoover's motives are clear. DC seemed more straight forward in his interview with LE than Hoover has appeared, IMO, other than the obvious embarassement over the psychic bit. I know the phone records from the psychic haven't been shared yet but that doesn't mean they don't exist. (BTW, the blackjack does exist, according to a May comment in Myspace with her former boss but LE hasn't done anything I can see to get a hold of those records.) As for Cindy giving her a toy of Caylee's but not Tim Miller, he would only look for a dead Caylee, which she wasn't yet prepared to accept and Miller was brought in by LE who already had many items of Caylee's. Why would they have to give out more items?

Dominic Casey was caught in one lie after another during his interview with LE and FBI agent Savage. Now he has hired a lawyer for his depo with Morgan because he has a lot to hide and will refuse to answer most questions. IMO his character is right down there with a street 🤬🤬🤬🤬, he is in a very precarious position right now and could be arrested.
I was at his website a few days ago and I could not believe how he worded Caylee's death as a "Terminal Event".:eek::mad:

Hoover is no saint but he has been fairly honest and he has exposed a real hornet's nest cooked up by Dominic and the Anthonys.
The psychic could not produce her phone records because they do not exist.
How could Casey's former boss know about a Blackjack phone when Casey has not worked in years? :waitasec:
 
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