Japan: 9.0 Earthquake-Tsunami-Nuclear Reactor Developments #1

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  • #621
I agree about the tsunami waves, however what would scare me would be if I were in Hawaii, not being able to get away from the radiation, or whatever. At least in California, one can go inland.


Ah, How true !!! I'd be scared because I don't think one can see actual radiation in the wind, right?

In Hawaii, before the Tsunami struck, all the boats and ships from Honolulu left the harbor and went a couple of miles out to sea, to ride it out in safety.

Depoe Bay Or had a couple of powerful surges into the bay that caused quite a bit of damage and even ripped out a hunk of the dock {they say six figures to repair}.

California has 2 areas of disaster now where many big boats were damaged or lost. I wonder why the harbors on the mainland didn't follow Hawaii's lead?
 
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I agree about the tsunami waves, however what would scare me would be if I were in Hawaii, not being able to get away from the radiation, or whatever. At least in California, one can go inland.

I live on the coast and I am very nervous about this dire situation. Sure, we CAN go inland, but how do we really manage that? We all have jobs or go to school. This is not the financial climtate that will allow any of us to take leave of our jobs right now. And even if we could, where would we go and for how long?
ALL of my extended family lives along the coast. A few relatives live in the central farming community, but that is like a big basin there, and smog just sits there with no place to go. So would it really be any better than Santa Monica or Malibu? Not sure.
 
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Ah, How true !!! I'd be scared because I don't think one can see actual radiation in the wind, right?

In Hawaii, before the Tsunami struck, all the boats and ships from Honolulu left the harbor and went a couple of miles out to sea, to ride it out in safety.

Depoe Bay Or had a couple of powerful surges into the bay that caused quite a bit of damage and even ripped out a hunk of the dock {they say six figures to repair}.

California has 2 areas of disaster now where many big boats were damaged or lost. I wonder why the harbors on the mainland didn't follow Hawaii's lead?
I sounds like they probably didn't think they were really in danger, being so many thousand miles from Japan - until it was too late.
 
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I live on the coast and I am very nervous about this dire situation. Sure, we CAN go inland, but how do we really manage that? We all have jobs or go to school. This is not the financial climtate that will allow any of us to take leave of our jobs right now. And even if we could, where would we go and for how long?
ALL of my extended family lives along the coast. A few relatives live in the central farming community, but that is like a big basin there, and smog just sits there with no place to go. So would it really be any better than Santa Monica or Malibu? Not sure.

I do understand, and pray nothing happens to anyone in our country. I feel the same during hurricane season, but thankfully I'm not on the coast. :hug:
 
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Nuclear energy analyst Robert Alvarez of the Institute for Policy Studies says there are many things we do not know about the failure, including whether the containment structure is fully intact. "The information that has been made public, particularly by the Japanese nuclear safety authorities, certainly indicate that radioactive elements from the fuel itself have escaped and entered the environment. And even if the reactor maintains its integrity, there's a possibility that things like open relief valves on the top of the reactor and things like that may still release large amounts of radioactivity," he said.

Ken Bergeron, a physicist who formerly worked for Sandia National Laboratories, says a so-called station blackout - which involves the loss of both off-site electricity and on-site backup power from diesel generators - is viewed in the nuclear industry as extremely unlikely. But he says it happened.

"So we're in uncharted territory. We're in the land where probability says we shouldn't be. And we're hoping that all of the barriers to release of radioactivity will not fail," he said.

He said the first barrier, the so-called fuel cladding that covers the reactor rods, has apparently failed, which he says is shown by the release of radiation into the atmosphere.

Crews are pumping a mixture of seawater and boron to cool the reactor, and these experts say it is essential to keep the water flowing for several days. Analyst Alvarez called the use of seawater a "Hail Mary pass", a term from American football meaning an act of desperation. But he said that with enough water pumped at sufficient volume and rate, the reactor can be stabilized.

Ken Bergeron said it is also crucial to restore electric power in order to pump enough water.

Ira Helfand of the group Physicians for Social Responsibility says the reactor contains huge levels of radioactivity that cannot be allowed to escape. "The bottom line is that we just don't know what's going to happen over the next couple of days. And frankly, neither do the people who are operating these power plants. They're very complex systems that are clearly way out of whack, and whether they're going to be able to contain the radiation inside the reactors or not, is simply not known at this point," he said.
http://www.voanews.com/english/news...ossible-Japan-Reactor-Meltdown-117863244.html
 
  • #629
The Pacific Northwest is downwind from Japan. But Dr. Mel Kohn, Director of the state's Public Health Division, says there have been no elevated radiation levels detected, nor does he expect any in the near future. "Given the current size of the release and the distance from Oregon, we do not expect that to change", says Kohn, adding, "there is no public health risk to the state."

The Washington Department of Health also has been monitoring the state's air and made similar statements, says there are neither elevated levels of radiation nor any danger to the region's residents.

The agency says that, even if a "significant release" of radiation should happen in Japan, it would be sufficiently diluted in the atmosphere by the time it reached the Pacific Northwest.
http://www.koinlocal6.com/news/loca...ownplay-radiation/cFqNO5Ndf02JZ6YG51ccgw.cspx
 
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Okay, CNN just said radiation levels are going down-- but as we've witnessed twisty language today, I have to ask: Inside or outside?
My bet is inside, duh.
 
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I live on the coast and I am very nervous about this dire situation. Sure, we CAN go inland, but how do we really manage that? We all have jobs or go to school. This is not the financial climtate that will allow any of us to take leave of our jobs right now. And even if we could, where would we go and for how long?
ALL of my extended family lives along the coast. A few relatives live in the central farming community, but that is like a big basin there, and smog just sits there with no place to go. So would it really be any better than Santa Monica or Malibu? Not sure.

Not that we wouldn't love to have you personally, but we're not really set up to handle 20 million refugees here in the so-called "Inland Empire."

But the terrain in California rises pretty steeply from the water line. I doubt you'd actually need to evacuate this far inland. Just follow any evacuation instructions you get and make sure to stock up on batteries and water.
 
  • #635
Not that we wouldn't love to have you personally, but we're not really set up to handle 20 million refugees here in the so-called "Inland Empire."

But the terrain in California rises pretty steeply from the water line. I doubt you'd actually need to evacuate this far inland. Just follow any evacuation instructions you get and make sure to stock up on batteries and water.

And iodine pills. :)
 
  • #636
There are over 7,000 miles between Japan and Oregon. It's hard to grasp exactly how far that is until you fly almost half way and it takes over 6 hours in air.

I am not concerned here in Hawaii of radiation and I am located right about 4,000 miles away.

If I were on the continent of Asia then I would probably be watching any radiation leaks like a hawk. But that's just me.

Prayers for those that are near those reactors at this time.
 
  • #637
And this one too NMK. It was in our local paper.


http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/Global/story.asp?S=14239182

Headline:

"More than 9,500 people unaccounted for in Minamisanriku, Japan"

After watching, and re-watching several times, the tsunami hit, the death toll has to be high just from all the cars and buildings that were completely submerged. And that doesn't even include those killed during the earthquake(s). :cry:
 
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There are over 7,000 miles between Japan and Oregon. It's hard to grasp exactly how far that is until you fly almost half way and it takes over 6 hours in air.

I am not concerned here in Hawaii of radiation and I am located right about 4,000 miles away.

If I were on the continent of Asia then I would probably be watching any radiation leaks like a hawk. But that's just me.

Prayers for those that are near those reactors at this time.

That makes me feel better. I was worried about you. :hug:
 
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After watching, and re-watching several times, the tsunami hit, the death toll has to be high just from all the cars and buildings that were completely submerged. And that doesn't even include those killed during the earthquake(s). :cry:

The 1995 Kobe earthquake killed over 6400 -- with no tsunami.
 
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