Japan: 9.0 Earthquake-Tsunami-Nuclear Reactor Developments #3

[Wise Old Owl]

Ok - caught the re-run with the fuel numbers

Reactor #1 70 tons of fuel in reactor 50 tons in spent fuel pool

Reactor #2 90 tons in reactor 100 tons in spent fuel

Reactor #3 90 tons in reactor 90 tons in spent fuel

Reactor #4 90 tons in reactor 130 tons in spent fuel

Reactor #5 90 tons in reactor 160 in spent fuel

Reactor #6 130 tons in reactor 150 tons in spent fuel

TOTALS: 560 tons of fuel in the reactors

AND 650 tons of spent fuel in the pools

for a whopping total of 1,240. tons of fuel in that plant!!!!

(boy was I low-balling before huh?)

Now we know that the spent fuel might not be as "hot" as the fuel in the reactors but I think its safe to say that the spent fuel ponds are quite hot.

If you put this up against Chernobyl with 180 tons of fuel - you have 7 times (6.8) the amount of fuel with this disaster.

Let's all hope and pray that this entire plant doesn't go!!!!!

 

[lkhns]

I'm pretty much not thinkin... I was 1... hysto at 32 after 7 years of HOPING cancer didn't come back.. two handsome miracles to show for the fight <3 my boys

Oh, gosh, I am so sorry. So glad you have your 2 miracles. I miscarried child #3 at 20 weeks and the doctors had no idea why. Baby was a boy and I have 3 girls---at the time the doc said something about some women not being able to carry to term a certain sex child. Who knows? But like you, I am so blessed to have my 3 girls.

 

[tehcloser]

@ teh... bf just saw your tiger-rabbit...

Is that a tiger with rabbit ears or a rabbit with tiger stripes???

It's DNA challenged. lol. My grandkids picked it out.

 

[Wise Old Owl]

I forgot about that pond that separate. Wow - wonder how much is in there?

Thankx quiche!

 

[lkhns]

Ok - caught the re-run with the fuel numbers

Reactor #1 70 tons of fuel in reactor 50 tons in spent fuel pool

Reactor #2 90 tons in reactor 100 tons in spent fuel

Reactor #3 90 tons in reactor 90 tons in spent fuel

Reactor #4 90 tons in reactor 130 tons in spent fuel

Reactor #5 90 tons in reactor 160 in spent fuel

Reactor #6 130 tons in reactor 150 tons in spent fuel

TOTALS: 560 tons of fuel in the reactors

AND 650 tons of spent fuel in the pools

for a whopping total of 1,240. tons of fuel in that plant!!!!

(boy was I low-balling before huh?)

Now we know that the spent fuel might not be as "hot" as the fuel in the reactors but I think its safe to say that the spent fuel ponds are quite hot.

If you put this up against Chernobyl with 180 tons of fuel - you have 7 times (6.8) the amount of fuel with this disaster.

Let's all hope and pray that this entire plant doesn't go!!!!!

WOW. There is nothing else one can say. That is a huge amount of fuel. God bless Japan.

 

[ScorpRising]

Oh, gosh, I am so sorry. So glad you have your 2 miracles. I miscarried child #3 at 20 weeks and the doctors had no idea why. Baby was a boy and I have 3 girls---at the time the doc said something about some women not being able to carry to term a certain sex child. Who knows? But like you, I am so blessed to have my 3 girls.

No need to be sorry! I'm actually "happy" that I'm done with that period of my life. I'm sorry for the loss of your baby boy. We're blessed for what we do have.

 

[Wise Old Owl]

Who was talking earlier about watching the movement of relatives of embassy people? It seems that is was is happening now. The evacuations are not mandatory but the US is chartering its own planes to get our people out.

What's that tell ya?

 

[Quiche]

http://my.firedoglake.com/kirkmurphy/tag/spent-fuel-rods/

Quote: One &#8220;common pool&#8221; is at ground level in a separate building. Each &#8220;reactor top&#8221; pool holds up to 3450 fuel rod assemblies. The common pool holds up to 6291 fuel rod assemblies.

So just shy of twice a much as the reactors?

 

[sorrell skye]

This isn't directed at you JTSYS. Your post reminded me of something that will be an indication as to how bad things are in Japan.

An excellent indication IMHO.

Where are the dependents of the active duty personnel that are assigned to Japan at this moment?

Are they in Japan? Or have they been evacuated to another location?

That will tell you exactly what the threat level is in (all over) Japan if you know where those dependents are located.

At the first "scent" of danger they will evacuate those dependents so fast it will make your head spin. Those dependents will be first in line---usually before diplomats, usually before govn workers, usually before any amercians that would need to be evac'ed. Seriously not kidding about that...

FWIW, when NK started cutting up and threatening to bomb SK off the face of the planet (there were some skirmishes not really covered in media well...) those dependents living in SK were put on emergency status and were being readied to be evac'ed out of the country.

JFYI, look for the dependents and that will give you an idea what's going on IMHO.

We have heard nothing about evac's here on HI from Japan and we spouses would hear it first before any media got wind of it. For sure.

4.08am (1.08pm JST): Reuters is reporting that the US government has authorised the voluntary departure of the family members of embassy staff. The State Department is also chartering aircraft to Tokyo to help Americans leave Japan, it says.

Given the growing concern, it is worth a reminder that we have a piece looking at what the radiation levels actually mean.

And, as we have said, the bigger issue for many survivors right now is the inadequate supply of food, fuel and medicine.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/blog/2011/mar/16/japan-nuclear-crisis-tsunami-aftermath-live

There ya go. Family members of Embassy Staff are being evacuated. Kat said it was a sign to look out for. Now we have seen it.

Kat said...

"At the first "scent" of danger they will evacuate those dependents so fast it will make your head spin. Those dependents will be first in line---usually before diplomats, usually before govn workers, usually before any amercians that would need to be evac'ed. Seriously not kidding about that..."

 

[Blue_Dolphin308]

4.08am (1.08pm JST): Reuters is reporting that the US government has authorised the voluntary departure of the family members of embassy staff. The State Department is also chartering aircraft to Tokyo to help Americans leave Japan, it says.

Given the growing concern, it is worth a reminder that we have a piece looking at what the radiation levels actually mean.

And, as we have said, the bigger issue for many survivors right now is the inadequate supply of food, fuel and medicine.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/blog/2011/mar/16/japan-nuclear-crisis-tsunami-aftermath-live

Isn't this what Kat said as to how we could tell how bad it really is???? If they are evacuating dependents, then you know its really bad! At least that is what she stated in her previous post.

 

[tehcloser]

The Japanese government's radiation report for the country's 47 prefectures Wednesday had a notable omission: Fukushima, ground zero in Japan's nuclear crisis. Measurements from Ibaraki, just south of Fukushima, were also blanked out.


Radiation experts in the USA say that the lack of information about radioactivity released from the smoldering reactors makes it impossible to gauge the current danger, project how bad a potential meltdown might be or calculate how much fallout might reach the USA.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2011-03-17-japanradiate17_ST_N.htm

 

[lkhns]

No need to be sorry! I'm actually "happy" that I'm done with that period of my life. I'm sorry for the loss of your baby boy. We're blessed for what we do have.

Thanks, Scorp. We are both richly blessed.

 

[Wise Old Owl]

http://my.firedoglake.com/kirkmurphy/tag/spent-fuel-rods/

Quote: One &#8220;common pool&#8221; is at ground level in a separate building. Each &#8220;reactor top&#8221; pool holds up to 3450 fuel rod assemblies. The common pool holds up to 6291 fuel rod assemblies.

So just shy of twice a much as the reactors?

and it seems the reactors hold 90 tons of fuel. So double that would be 180 tons.

Let's add that in

560 tons in the reactors

650 tons of spent fuel in the reactor buildings

PLUS another 180 tons in the separate spent fuel pond.

equals: 1420 tons of fuel (8 times the amount of fuel in Chernobyl)

scary stuff.

 

[ScorpRising]

So much SNF...

My question... why not hydro power for an island nation?

Idk if anyone looked at the map of US reactors I posted earlier but HI, PR and VI do NOT have any nuclear reactors...

 

[Quiche]

Bastids.

 

[tehcloser]

I don't like knowing something is coming and not knowing what that something is.

 

[Peliman]

I remember the 60's liiving in South Florida during the Cuban Missle crisis some people were building Nuclear bomb/fallout shelters. The parties we had sitting on top or inside tons of concrete for those who could afford them. <snap>

Got me thinking for all the doomslayers, yes there are things one can do besides gulping potassium Iodide. I'm one who's sensitive to it and yes I found out after taking some once. Glands in my neck looked like I had mumps lol...

From Popular Mechanics...

6 Safe, Strong—and Chic—Bomb Shelters You Can Buy Now

http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/engineering/architecture/4325649

 

[lkhns]

Originally Posted by tehcloser View Post
4.08am (1.08pm JST): Reuters is reporting that the US government has authorised the voluntary departure of the family members of embassy staff. The State Department is also chartering aircraft to Tokyo to help Americans leave Japan, it says.

Given the growing concern, it is worth a reminder that we have a piece looking at what the radiation levels actually mean.

And, as we have said, the bigger issue for many survivors right now is the inadequate supply of food, fuel and medicine.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/blog...aftermath-live


And while they say "voluntarily" I would bet my hat that that just means "situation bad you need to go but we cannot say that b/c we would piss off the current gov't by saying the current situation is dangerous". This is rather ominous. Esp. given that this recommendation comes a short time AFTER the USA started getting their own information and grasp on the situation.

 

[Wise Old Owl]

The Japanese government's radiation report for the country's 47 prefectures Wednesday had a notable omission: Fukushima, ground zero in Japan's nuclear crisis. Measurements from Ibaraki, just south of Fukushima, were also blanked out.


Radiation experts in the USA say that the lack of information about radioactivity released from the smoldering reactors makes it impossible to gauge the current danger, project how bad a potential meltdown might be or calculate how much fallout might reach the USA.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2011-03-17-japanradiate17_ST_N.htm

Underlined by me

So, how can we believe anyone about what is coming or what isn't coming or where it is going or how much is going? They have no clue - YET!

And when we're talking about 1200 tons of radioactive fuel - I REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY WANT THEM TO HAVE A CLUE!!!!!!

 

[tehcloser]

Someone needs to have a clue. I don't like this. Not one little bit. If the news was good, these answers would not be so hard to get.