Japan: 9.0 Earthquake-Tsunami-Nuclear Reactor Status #4

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Here's the real number--

Japan says very high radiation reading at reactor was wrong

Quote: Radiation in the water was a still worrying 100,000 times higher than normal, rather than 10 million times higher as originally stated, Muto said.

http://af.reuters.com/article/metalsNews/idAFLDE72Q0EY20110327

I don't feel better.
 
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http://english.kyodonews.jp/news/2011/03/81374.html

Japan on Sunday faced an increasing challenge of removing highly radioactive water found inside buildings near some troubled nuclear reactors at the Fukushima Daiichi plant, with the radiation level of the surface of the pool in the basement of the No. 2 reactor's turbine building found to be more than 1,000 millisieverts per hour.

Exposure to such an environment for four hours would raise the risk of dying in 30 days. Hidehiko Nishiyama, spokesman for the government's nuclear safety agency, said the figure is ''quite high'' but authorities must find a way to pump out the water without sending workers too close to push ahead with the restoration work.

At a radiation level of 1,000 millisieverts per hour, people could suffer a decrease in the number of lymphocytes -- a type of white blood cell -- in just 30 minutes, and half of the people could die within 30 days by staying in such conditions for four hours.

According to data released Sunday, radioactive iodine-134, a substance which sees its radiation release reduced to about half in some 53 minutes, existed in water at the No. 2 reactor's turbine building at an extremely high concentration of 2.9 billion becquerels per cubic centimeter.

The water also contained such substances as iodine-131 and cesium-137, known as products of nuclear fission, and thus leading to speculation that it may have come through pipes that connect the reactor vessel and turbines, where steam from the reactor is normally directed to for electricity generation.
 
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Low-level radiation found in Bay State rainwater

Quote: The Department of Public Health said the radiation -- in the form of radioiodine-131-- does not pose a health threat to Bay State residents and that the air and public drinking water supplies have tested clean. Radioiodine is a byproduct of nuclear fission and has a half-life of about eight days.

http://news.bostonherald.com/news/r...d_in_bay_state_rainwater/srvc=home&position=0

Okay, now I have to ask: If iodine dissipates the fastest-- how the heck did it make it 7,000 miles away? Also, I saw somewhere this morning that Austria has trace amounts. Now, as a Californian I have to wonder how much larger our "trace amounts" were.

And what about the baddies, cesium and strontium? :mad:
 
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I have to say, I am no conspiracy theorist, first and foremost.

Second, what of the water turned to blood?
What if it is not blood but iodine (radiation), Nostradamus code etc? He did everything in code remember? Not that I believe all that, just saying...
No, I have not read it anywhere. I just happened to be looking at a bottle of peri-wash, that is sitting on a counter in front of me, for when my expectant dog has pups.

What if the 'blood' is not blood but is radiation (iodine)?

Just putting it out there...
One thing is certain, at least. Everything's changed.
Yet, life is going on at your house.

Blessings on your dog and her puppies! And you, of course.
 
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They announced this on the ABC News just now, and said it had likely been carried by the wind. (All the way across our nation now!) But they've found radiation in the seawater in Japan. If my grade-school science memories are correct, wouldn't that water evaporate, then fall to earth as rainwater? Methinks we oughta buy up bottled water stocks bigtime.

http://www2.turnto10.com/news/2011/mar/27/low-levels-radioiodine-found-mass-rainwater-ar-435161/

BOSTON --Low levels of radioactive iodine have been detected in a sample of rainwater in Massachusetts according to state health officials. According to a statement by the Department of Public Health, the amounts of radioiodine are very low concentrations and have no impact on state drinking water supplies. The samples were taken during the past week by the US Environmental Protection Agency as part of regular monitoring of radioactivity. Officials in Massachusetts echoed the same sentiments as their counterparts in Rhode Island saying they do not expect any public health concerns. Rhode Island's Health Department says no testing has been done to the state's drinking water though they would expect the levels to be similar to those found in Mass.
 
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"...the Japan Meteorological Agency announced that a tsunami of up to 1.6 feet (a half meter) may wash into Miyagi Prefecture"
:)
 
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I couldn't get the link to open (Netbook getting ready to crash again) but is that a small tsunami warning for Japan or for the US coast? I'm only asking cuz it's a Seattle link. TIA. I'm assuming Japan or there'd be more U.S. panic, right?

Sorry I was vague-- for northern Japan, 1.6 feet.
 
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I couldn't get the link to open (Netbook getting ready to crash again) but is that a small tsunami warning for Japan or for the US coast? I'm only asking cuz it's a Seattle link. TIA. I'm assuming Japan or there'd be more U.S. panic, right?

Only 3.7 miles beneath the surface, quite shallow. And it occurred right during their morning rush hour. Has anyone heard of any damage or injuries? I hear nada on the TV news.
 
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Only 3.7 miles beneath the surface, quite shallow. And it occurred right during their morning rush hour. Has anyone heard of any damage or injuries? I hear nada on the TV news.

I've looked around and I'm seeing that there's been no damage from this aftershock. mo

eta--
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap...ozscoQ?docId=24dab58ab65841a5bfd910da07cca945

Quote: There were no immediate reports of damage or injuries, but the Japan Meteorological Agency announced that a tsunami of up to 1.6 feet (a half meter) may wash into Miyagi Prefecture.
 
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Sorry I was vague-- for northern Japan, 1.6 feet.

Hi Quiche, thanks for keeping things updated during my absenses. Thanks to everyone, just the kind of information I seek, levels of radiation, when and where.

I hope another tsunami of any size does not hit the coast line there with radiation levels reported 1250 - 1850 times the normal levels found in the seawater. I don't think anything could clean up the ground a tsunami would contaminate.

Last thing we need to see is another tsunami! I need to do some serious rethinking of my thoughts on nuclear power. This has been a real education for me.

BTW I read every post from everyone here and thank-you.
 
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New, high, radiation levels.....received as Breaking News via email

"Leaked water from the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant showed the highest radiation readings yet, compounding the risks for the hundreds of workers trying to repair the facility’s cooling system. Seventeen workers have been exposed to high levels of radiation, and airborne radioactivity in the unit 2 building remained so high that a worker there would reach his yearly occupational exposure limit in 15 minutes"

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world...03/27/AFsMLFiB_story.html?wpisrc=nl_natlalert
 
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Hi Quiche, thanks for keeping things updated during my absenses. Thanks to everyone, just the kind of information I seek, levels of radiation, when and where.

I hope another tsunami of any size does not hit the coast line there with radiation levels reported 1250 - 1850 times the normal levels found in the seawater. I don't think anything could clean up the ground a tsunami would contaminate.

Last thing we need to see is another tsunami! I need to do some serious rethinking of my thoughts on nuclear power. This has been a real education for me.

BTW I read every post from everyone here and thank-you.

Hi Peliman, I really appreciate Quiche and Everyone keeping us updated like they are. I was over at Kyron's thread a bit ago and thought, Boy, these guys are on it, reporting the news right out of the gate about today's search plus maps :rocker:

I just smiled at our great group here at WS. xox
 
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New, high, radiation levels.....received as Breaking News via email

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world...03/27/AFsMLFiB_story.html?wpisrc=nl_natlalert

Interesting tidbit from the link you posted. I'm still absorbing it but thank-you.

"Unlike in newer reactor designs, the older boiling water reactors at Daiichi are pierced by dozens of holes in the bottom of their reactor vessels. Each hole allows one control rod — made of a neutron-absorbing material that quickly stops nuclear fission inside the reactor — to slide into the reactor from below, as happened when the earthquake shook the plant March 11. During normal operations, a graphite stopper covers each hole, sealing in highly radioactive primary cooling water, said Arnie Gundersen, a consultant at Fairewinds Associates with 40 years of experience overseeing boiling water reactors.

But at temperatures above 350 degrees Fahrenheit, the graphite stoppers begin to melt.

“Since it is likely that rubble from the broken fuel rods . . . is collecting at the bottom of the reactor, the seals are being damaged by high temperature or high radiation,” Gundersen said. As the graphite seals fail, water in the reactor will leak into a network of pipes in the containment buildings surrounding each reactor — the very buildings that have been heavily damaged by explosions. Gundersen said that this piping is probably compromised, leaving highly radioactive water to seep from the reactor vessels into broken pipes — and from there into the turbine buildings and beyond."
 
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I would like everyone to remember that the radiation can go across the pacific to teh us and over to the Atlantic and then onto Europe, BUT it can also go 'backwards' over Asia, then Europe across the Atlantic and over to us. This thing is going to affect the whole world.

Also, I checked mileage and from Japan to MN it is 7300 (5500 to calipornia). From the UK to japan it is 5800ish miles. Sorry that just really bugs me, especially when the TV shows the plane flight flying over every other country to show how 'far' away it is, when in reality the plane just fly's backward.

Also, I was watching the news and I loved the part when one of their experts said flat out "big power companies such as TEPCO lie". Paraphrased, but FINALLY. Acknowledgment. No I don't have a link. I can't watch videos on dial up. When the news peice was on it also said the 10M reading 'may have' been a misread. May have. I take everyone tepco says with a very large grain of salt though. Very large.

Kudos to the workers. They work in the nuclear field so they have to know how bad of a situation they are in, yet most of them are still plugging on.
 
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