Japan: 9.0 Earthquake-Tsunami-Nuclear Reactor Status #4

[lkhns]

smoke rising from reactor #2 according to msnbc just a few moments ago.

 

[Herding Cats]

From one Californian to another, HC: great, thoroughly sensible post!

We live 30 miles or less from the San Andreas fault. We're not running for Wisconsin, but we did stock up on water and can goods, and made sure there was a full tank of gas in the car.

I appreciate Bergland's open mind and willingness to consider that there may be interrelationships between tides, the moon, tectonic plates, etc. But as you point out, his track record isn't something on which we need bet the farm.

Rather, simple, common-sense precautions seem in order. And we should be doing those anyway.

I live about 5 miles from the SA Fault, and have experienced more than my "fair share" of large quakes. I almost always have a stock of food (for me and my animals) from which we could eat well for 2 weeks, and moderately for 4 weeks. Now, that's not eating everything we like, exactly, but my household is relatively prepared.

I did go to the store tonight; grabbed a few more cases of water, more canned and ready-to-eat stuff, and restocked the cat-shelves. Now, my household is ready...

Nova, I think Bergland is on the right track; but I don't think he, or anyone else, actually knows all the factors in EQs. It's relatively easy to predict a fairly large magnitude (7+) in the Vanuatu Islands; if you look at the history there, it's plain to see that the area rocks fairly often.

I do think that things are a somewhat fragile balance...and that when one land mass moves 8-13 feet in one direction, things will get less steady. Add to that some unknown factor of tidal shifts, gravitational pull, and existing energy, and there just might be a good-size shake as a result. As I said, it's probably more likely than any other given weekend, but then again, this earth, a living, moving earth, has done some quite surprising things - including not shaking when we think she should. LOL.

OTOH, we're in for some rain, so...I'll keep my umbrella handy, too.

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Herding Cats

 

[Linda7NJ]

BBC News

Engineers at Japan's stricken Fukushima nuclear power plant have managed to lay a cable to reactor 2, the UN's nuclear watchdog reports.
Restoring power should enable engineers to restart the pumps which send coolant over the reactor.:great:

 

[Niner]

snipped to ask question on this in bold!

Jim Berglund is an interesting character. I've followed his theory, used to get his newsletter and he's pretty decent in terms of forcasting. however, he's not 100%. The "scientific community" tends to poo-poo him, but I don't think that's smart...he's been right enough for me. But remember, just because he said it, doesn't mean it will happen. It's just more likely than not. Living in EQ country, though, makes it more likely that not, too. KWIM?

'what' is his record - say "8 out of 10" predictions?? Very good post Herding Cats! Glad to hear you are well prepared with your cats!! And ONLY 5 miles from the San Andreas fault???!!!! Stay safe!

 

[CarmelEyesD]

Just in case this hasn't been posted..

http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/...-the-japanese-government-have-been-telling-us

27 Signs That The Nuclear Crisis In Japan Is Much Worse Than Either The Mainstream Media Or The Japanese Government Have Been Telling Us

 

[Adrienne37]

I know someone has probably already posted this because I'm so late in checking in on this thread but it was absolutely incredible enough to share again and again and again....

Rachel Maddow Show

 

[JBean]

Japan plans no more air drops on reactor
YAMAGATA, Japan – Japan's military says it does not plan further helicopter air drops of water on overheating reactors at a tsunami-ravaged nuclear plant.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/as_japan...RzZWMDeW5fdG9wX3N0b3J5BHNsawNqYXBhbnBsYW5zbm8-

 

[not_my_kids]

So...has the extension cord been tested yet?

I have a feeling that for a few hours they will tell us that it is working, that the water is beginning to fow, and then they will tell us that it has stopped working. I personally doubt that it will work in the first place, but we and the Japanese public will have a chance to let the stock markets breathe for a few before they tell us that.

And I don't think we have any idea how much damage has been done up until this point, and that won't be undone by any length of "Cable."

 

[Dr. Know?]

From Twitter

azfamily azfamily
BREAKING NEWS: 2.5-magnitude earthquake in Baja California felt in Yuma - More on 3TV News 9! #phx

 

[Dr. Know?]

This twitter was posted before my last post.

ArizonaNewsnet Mark
Earthquake: Magnitude 3.3 - BAJA CALIFORNIA, MEXICO. 31 miles southwest of San Luis, Arizona http://goo.gl/YHgxe

 

[peeples]

2.5 isn't big though right??

 

[Elphaba]

2.5 isn't big though right??

The 3.6 we had here in DC last summer was just a window rattler kind of quake (ok, a tiny bit of damage did happen, but nothing super serious)... so 2.5 is around that.

 

[Quiche]

So...has the extension cord been tested yet?

I have a feeling that for a few hours they will tell us that it is working, that the water is beginning to fow, and then they will tell us that it has stopped working. I personally doubt that it will work in the first place, but we and the Japanese public will have a chance to let the stock markets breathe for a few before they tell us that.

And I don't think we have any idea how much damage has been done up until this point, and that won't be undone by any length of "Cable."

EH, I got that wrong-- I went back for the link, sorry for the confusion.

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[Dr. Know?]

It's just small rumbles. Just passing along the quakes that are happening. We have had several small ones along the border for at least two weeks or so.

I can only read the numbers on the charts

Radioactivity Measurements for All Prefectures

http://eq.wide.ad.jp/index_en.html

 

[peeples]

Thanks.. I'm in tornado country LOL I know zero about quakes
although have been getting a crash course this week

 

[JBean]

More smoke rises from Japan's crippled nuke plant

AP – 21 mins ago
Smoke billowed from a building at Japan's crippled nuclear power plant Friday as emergency crews worked to reconnect electricity to cooling systems and spray more water on overheating nuclear fuel at the tsunami-ravaged facility

 

[Herding Cats]

The 3.6 we had here in DC last summer was just a window rattler kind of quake (ok, a tiny bit of damage did happen, but nothing super serious)... so 2.5 is around that.

2.5 is really, really small...so small, in fact, that I can't even feel them, even if they're right under my feet. It's nothing.

A 3.6 is small; I'd probably notice it, but it also might go unnoticed. You might've felt it more in DC, where you're not set up for EQs, or "used to" them, if that's a way to say it...

And just for the record, each number on the richter scale is something like 10 times the strength of the lower number. So, if one only slightly noticed a 3.5, a 2.5 is ten times less power/energy/movement. Same the other way - if you barely felt a 3.5, you'd probably feel a 4.5 quite a bit more.

http://www.buzzle.com/articles/richter-scale-formula.html
Here is some light reading about how the Richter scale is used, and an explanation of how often a quake will occur. Interesting, but somewhat simplistic, but it's fairly accurate.

As for energy released, each whole number up indicated a 31x increase in energy released. Thus, the energy released at a 2.5 is 31x less than a 3.5, and the difference between micro (2 or less) and great (8 or more) is 186 orders. I don't know what energy level is measured, nor how, but it's definitely a different way to measure quakes, and I kinda like it.

There is also the Mercali (sp) scale, which indicates the amount of shaking felt. This is dependent upon where you are when the quake hits; sand will conduct the energy differently than will, say, granite. Sand can actually liquify, which is a terrifying thing...whereas granite does not. That just breaks and splits and builds mountains.

Just a bit of info for everyone. Hope this helps explain why we don't get too excited over a 2, or even a 4 for the most part.

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Herding Cats

 

[lkhns]

More smoke rises from Japan's crippled nuke plant

AP – 21 mins ago
Smoke billowed from a building at Japan's crippled nuclear power plant Friday as emergency crews worked to reconnect electricity to cooling systems and spray more water on overheating nuclear fuel at the tsunami-ravaged facility

So, smoke is now coming out of #2 reactor and TEPCO has said that they will NOT be doing any more water dumps on Friday. Also, TEPCO said that they have NOT yet connected a power source to any of the reactors (earlier it had been reported that the power was back on at Units 5 & 6).

 

[JBean]

2.5 is really, really small...so small, in fact, that I can't even feel them, even if they're right under my feet. It's nothing.

A 3.6 is small; I'd probably notice it, but it also might go unnoticed. You might've felt it more in DC, where you're not set up for EQs, or "used to" them, if that's a way to say it...

And just for the record, each number on the richter scale is something like 10 times the strength of the lower number. So, if one only slightly noticed a 3.5, a 2.5 is ten times less power/energy/movement. Same the other way - if you barely felt a 3.5, you'd probably feel a 4.5 quite a bit more.

http://www.buzzle.com/articles/richter-scale-formula.html
Here is some light reading about how the Richter scale is used, and an explanation of how often a quake will occur. Interesting, but somewhat simplistic, but it's fairly accurate.

As for energy released, each whole number up indicated a 31x increase in energy released. Thus, the energy released at a 2.5 is 31x less than a 3.5, and the difference between micro (2 or less) and great (8 or more) is 186 orders. I don't know what energy level is measured, nor how, but it's definitely a different way to measure quakes, and I kinda like it.

There is also the Mercali (sp) scale, which indicates the amount of shaking felt. This is dependent upon where you are when the quake hits; sand will conduct the energy differently than will, say, granite. Sand can actually liquify, which is a terrifying thing...whereas granite does not. That just breaks and splits and builds mountains.

Just a bit of info for everyone. Hope this helps explain why we don't get too excited over a 2, or even a 4 for the most part.

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Herding Cats

The last one to get my attention was a 7.something last Easter.

 

[Herding Cats]

JBean, I didn't feel that one - at least, I don't recall it if I did and it was only a year ago. However, the epicenter was several hundred miles away (I'm in N. Los Angeles County), so I wouldn't have felt it like you had.

I do, however, remember that quake, because of the damage it caused in Mexicali and other places nearby.

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Herding Cats